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Crappy VRMs on B350s, few X370s as well - inadvisable Ryzen 7 overclocking over 1.32-1.35V

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This takes me back to the "good ol' days" with the socket A boards of looking for an IR image of the motherboard under load to find which chips needed attention whether it be adding heatsinks or merely extra airflow. I do agree that it is a little misleading to market a lower-end board for overclocking; however, I can't say I've ever paid much attention to the marketing on the box when basing my purchases.
 
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Personally admire the level of detail shown. It says; " Hi, I've done some research and here's what I found. ".
Not sure what it really has to do with amd vrms but... yeah. Thorough post on return rates for intel products. God bless that hardware.fr site which has given these out for years.
 

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Then why are there issues?
what issues ?
nobody is blowing boards up nobody is throttling with the exception of asrocks buggy ass bios
 
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Hmmm. I'm starting to think that old-school cases, with a fan over the CPU area, might come back into style with the rise of AIO CLCs.
I'm using one of those.
 

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Then why are there issues?
There basically aren't issues. People push budget hardware too hard (because marketing says they can OC) and then realize why the more expensive boards exist lol.

Here's a thought: Do we have higher [unrealistic?] expectations of low end boards now that the high end boards' vrm are so ludicrously overkill?
 
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No. That perception hasnt changed in over a decade.
 
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Once saw one of those nForce 4 AM3+ motherboards, rated for 95w TDP maximum, trying to hold a FX 8350. Poor thing shut itself down under any kind of load.
I thought AMD would set the bar for the X370 and B350 chipsets so manufacturers didn't cheap out like that.
 
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This takes me back to the "good ol' days" with the socket A boards of looking for an IR image of the motherboard under load to find which chips needed attention whether it be adding heatsinks or merely extra airflow. I do agree that it is a little misleading to market a lower-end board for overclocking; however, I can't say I've ever paid much attention to the marketing on the box when basing my purchases.
I love and still own my socket A board..
But surely trying to 'cheap' out buying a cheap overclocking board never works. Skimping on things only makes you end up paying twice or twice as much... I learnt that the hard way but even with some of the boards now I'm surprised in a way that even some of the more expensive boards skimp on things.
 

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Hello, i see you use the Pictures from our Teammate and Overclockermember Saibot from www.Hardwareinside.de

https://www.hardwareinside.de/msi-b350-tomahawk-im-test-25145/
https://www.hardwareinside.de/community/threads/review-des-msi-x370-gaming-pro-carbon.4635/

Next Time pls, make a Sources for Copyrights. Thank you
Hi Seelenwolf, thank you for visiting and letting us know. I've quoted your posted and edited it into the 1st post, I apologize on behalf of Dave, he should have linked to the source.
Please thank Saibot for the time spent testing and compiling graphs.
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You know what? Honestly I have NEVER had any issues at all EVER with any VRM burn out. I do not know about this new MB the B350 seems to be great so far good OC and no voltage increase on my Rysen 3 1300X got her running at 3.72Ghz out of box! I wont go higher till I get a better cooler I never take a CPU voltage up on stock cooling NEVER!
 

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You know what? Honestly I have NEVER had any issues at all EVER with any VRM burn out. I do not know about this new MB the B350 seems to be great so far good OC and no voltage increase on my Rysen 3 1300X got her running at 3.72Ghz out of box! I wont go higher till I get a better cooler I never take a CPU voltage up on stock cooling NEVER!
Never had an issue with cheap VRMs either then again I don't buy cheap boards, I do research on them
 

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for every degree cooler then the maximum you run a vrm the current handling capacity accually increases a bit,a vrm thats 300A @ 125c might be 350 or 400A at 80c

there is other things like switching speed and thermal efficiency to consider but running a vrm at its rated frigging output is not going to blow it up
you are not smarter then the engineers at international rectifier so please just stop

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