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Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

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With a flurry (pun intended) of white products on store shelves now, one thing that has been sorely missing are white memory sticks. However, Crucial is here to save the esthetics of your white build with their Ballistix Sport 32 GB kit clad in white heatspreaders and a white PCB! Not only do they look good, their huge capacity means you'll nearly never run out of memory!

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DDR4 worth buy only 3000MHz +
meh. Not much real-world differences for average users. Since nearly and Intel CPU can do 3200, if you really needed more, Intel would have had higher spec than 2133 MHz. For those that want the utmost in performance, 3200+ only. Even 3000 has latency a bit too high for high-end performance, IMHO.
 
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high speed DDR4 does make a difference, in terms of scientific research.

I do genome assembly on my PC. 32GB RAM running at DDR4-2800 VS DDR4-2666 takes about 50 minutes less in aligning a 25GB raw genome reads file.

However in this application RAM size matters even more. On my PC it only takes 5~6hrs. On my lab PC which only has 8GB of RAM it will take 5 days.
 

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high speed DDR4 does make a difference, in terms of scientific research.

I do genome assembly on my PC. 32GB RAM running at DDR4-2800 VS DDR4-2666 takes about 50 minutes less in aligning a 25GB raw genome reads file.

However in this application RAM size matters even more. On my PC it only takes 5~6hrs. On my lab PC which only has 8GB of RAM it will take 5 days.
You bet. That's why I said "average users". You'll want that DDR4-3200+.
 
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I still up my eyebrows looking at that Metro benchmark... yes I have on averge 5-7FPS bumps going from 1600MHz to 2400MHz on my old platform...

I wonder if it is overall latency or bandwidth related really. They are tied, but you can choose in between them often.
 
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The heatsink does look good on this RAM. Another solid review. Thanks again.
 
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Mmm super sexy! Perfect for Sabertooth Mark S Z170 owners. It's pity that they don't offer same white PCB for Mark S Z97 users like me.
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
meh. Not much real-world differences for average users. Since nearly and Intel CPU can do 3200, if you really needed more, Intel would have had higher spec than 2133 MHz. For those that want the utmost in performance, 3200+ only. Even 3000 has latency a bit too high for high-end performance, IMHO.
While that is absolutely true, man is it a kick in the pants to run DDR3 speeds with DDR4 latency...

Im also of the thinking 2800-3200Mhz CL14/15 is the sweet spot for price and performance.
 

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This.

My DDR3 G.Skill TridentX has 2400MHz defaults
That's great, but you can't run DDR4 in a DDR3 system (or vice versa), so whatever DDR3 offers is not relevant. I can choose nearly any speed (up to 3866 MHz sticks on my shelf), and I pick what looks best, because the meager FPS gains with my 6700K and dual GTX980 don't matter to me personally.

While that is absolutely true, man is it a kick in the pants to run DDR3 speeds with DDR4 latency...

Im also of the thinking 2800-3200Mhz CL14/15 is the sweet spot for price and performance.

Meh. I can't say I notice any difference in daily usage. I've got 3200 MHz DDR4, running at 2133 MHz in my system right now. We both know ram speed matters little except for benchmarks and mentality. I've got about 250 GB (just counted, 280 GB :p) of DDR4 in varying speeds, and the Crucial sticks are going back into my Z170 DELUXE after I finish testing these 3200 MHz sticks, simply because of how the Crucials look.

I'm happy there are options out there to please everyone. I'll be reviewing some higher-spec sticks real soon, so you guys that feel negative about these sticks are more than welcome to comment in those reviews too. :p
 
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Will you be reviewing any 128GB kits soon?
 

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Will you be reviewing any 128GB kits soon?
I do not have any at the moment, but I'll ask for some after my current stable of reviews is complete. Z170 only supports 64 GB, so that'll have to be on X99. I'm working on finding parts for upcoming X99 stuffs.
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Meh. I can't say I notice any difference in daily usage. I've got 3200 MHz DDR4, running at 2133 MHz in my system right now. We both know ram speed matters little except for benchmarks and mentality.
Oh, I couldn't either really... it is in my head that its 'just not right' to run DDR3 speeds with DDR4 latencies. Its an OCD thing. :p
 
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I do not have any at the moment, but I'll ask for some after my current stable of reviews is complete. Z170 only supports 64 GB, so that'll have to be on X99. I'm working on finding parts for upcoming X99 stuffs.

Get a Broadwell-E while you are doing that. Can't wait for some good 128GB RAM review. If I can stuff 128GB high speed DDR4 in a 8 core overclocked Broadwell-E I won't even need to use my University's cluster any more. :D
 
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Get a Broadwell-E while you are doing that. Can't wait for some good 128GB RAM review. If I can stuff 128GB high speed DDR4 in a 8 core overclocked Broadwell-E I won't even need to use my University's cluster any more. :D

You saw that leak for a 2.5K price tag xD.

Okay it is a flagship unit... but the heck... are they desperate?
 

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Get a Broadwell-E while you are doing that. Can't wait for some good 128GB RAM review. If I can stuff 128GB high speed DDR4 in a 8 core overclocked Broadwell-E I won't even need to use my University's cluster any more. :D

Working on it for sure. If worse comes to worse we'll buy one.
 
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You saw that leak for a 2.5K price tag xD.

Okay it is a flagship unit... but the heck... are they desperate?

Didn't Intel just laid off a whole bunch of people?
 
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Everyone does that now...

So intel is milking its fan base as hard as it can before Zen arrives, that is assuming Zen can at least compete a little.
 

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So intel is milking its fan base as hard as it can before Zen arrives, that is assuming Zen can at least compete a little.
The PC market has been in decline for many years now (thanks to cell phones and a lack of scientific research on the scale of LHC), so Intel's move is them finally doing what they should have done long ago. From where I sit, it is the right move, but three years too late for them to properly capitalize on. AMD has absolutely nothing to do with it.

People don't need to buy PCs to access the internet with decent speeds like they used to, and everyone seems to have been ignoring this. PCs have really gone back to being "nerdy". Not that I mind; I got into PCs before the internet was really a thing (even though the town I grew up in was one of two global test markets for high-speed internet).

Remember when a certain AMD exec got fired for not focusing on mobile? Intel isn't focusing on mobile either, really, at least, not in the way they need to. They have tons of cash to spend, so to take this as them running scared doesn't make sense to me.

But to bring it back on topic (sorta), Intel should have been spending that money not just on SSDs, but also on memory. What memory brand does Intel own? Monitor brand? They need to be more focused on integrating themselves into daily living in a much bigger way.
 
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By the looks Qualcomm will be the new intel soon.

Intel has failed to enter GPU and also mobile market despite the technological assets they have... why? The people that make and design such things are counted in fews... I see again SPARC and MIPS being alive and kicking again... but x86 is being afloat only thanks to wintel.

Nvidia is the first company wanting to get rid of intel... as soon handhelds will be enough to run something like ps4... and it is like in two years... we will see a market tremor.

I am also really skeptic about the PC segment future... they may become like muscle cars.
 

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Intel should have been spending that money not just on SSDs, but also on memory. What memory brand does Intel own? Monitor brand? They need to be more focused on integrating themselves into daily living in a much bigger way.
Well, they've been kind of doing that but, not exactly in the way you described. Intel CPUs have been getting pushed (albeit slowly,) towards being more SoC-like where "everything you need" is on the CPU. We've seen this with several generations of Intel CPUs and now we're seeing SoC 8c/16t Xeon parts which are certainly interesting in and of themselves. So while I understand what you're saying, I don't think discrete components is really what is going to make Intel the most money (aka, holding on to the market they have while accomplishing that goal.) More money comes from miniaturization and consolidation of discrete components. We all know that Intel's iGPUs are "meh" at best but, it has evolved to the point where most regular users don't need more than one of Intel's iGPUs on chip.

So consider one of those Broadwell Xeon D SoCs, it has a whole lot of stuff in one package; such as ethernet (up to four 2.5Gbe links iirc), sata, pci-e, and the memory controller. It's not unrealistic to think that going forward Intel might consider using stacked memory on their CPUs which would reduce the footprint of embedded systems even further than it has already. We already know that Intel can do most of this, the eDRAM on Iris Pro-based CPUs is an example of that. So instead of having several different products that have Intel's name on it, you have a small set of products that already contain most of what you needed. Imagine if you could buy an Intel CPU with 8GB of memory on the CPU? People like us might want more but, people who simply want a laptop won't even think about needed additional memory. A little bit of a price hike and they've cut out memory manufacturers from a segment of the market.

Intel has played their cards well. They already control the market, it's a matter of holding on to that control and leveraging what they already have to improve profits.
 

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Pretty lame not comparing this to another 2400 kit. I'd be especially interested how it fares against a kit that can do 1T command rate.
 

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Pretty lame not comparing this to another 2400 kit. I'd be especially interested how it fares against a kit that can do 1T command rate.
I can't decide what's more lame, your attitude about it, or that you think it matters in anything other than benchmarks.

What I would have said if I wanted actualy results was "I saw that you have two other Crucial 2400 MHz kits in the review. Can they run 1T? Could you review them as well", and I might have said "Sure!", but now I might not, just to spite you.
 
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