Delid 7700K and applying CLU + results

[fullinfusion]

I wont complain for being a not as good of chip as @Knoxx29 has...

4.8ghz and she's been working all afternoon and its 24c Ambient room temp with fans on low

 

[Knoxx29]

I wont complain for being a not as good of chip as @Knoxx29 has...

4.8ghz and she's been working all afternoon and its 24c Ambient room temp with fans on low

Don't be silly, those temps are great and the voltage for 4.8 are not that bad, have you tried 1.26V?

 

[fullinfusion]

Don't be silly, those temps are great and the voltage for 4.8 are not that bad, have you tried 1.26V?


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no but I'm doing this right now and streaming music and watching twitch and creating an image

 

[Knoxx29]

The good thing about your Machine is that you're using a Z270 Motherboard and the 7700K OC better on it and it uses less voltages.

I will wait for the 300-series Motherboard and for intel new cpus before i decide if upgrade or not.

 

[Tallencor]

no but I'm doing this right now and streaming music and watching twitch and creating an image

Very cool! <-See what i did lol. Time for a new platform so I have a backup just incase. Then ivy delid for a wcg box.
Check Steam

 

[EarthDog]

The good thing about your Machine is that you're using a Z270 Motherboard and the 7700K OC better on it and it uses less voltages.

It Does? News to me.

Though, I've only tried it on two z170 boards... vomtage was the same as was overclocking.

 

[Knoxx29]

It Does? News to me.

But not for me.
As you can see @fullinfusion needs 1.344 volt for 5.1 and my won't even post with 1.344V at 5.1, i have thought that it was my CPU but i have tested it on a Z270 board from a friend of mine and it OC way better, on the Z270 i get it at 5.0 with just 1.31V and in my Z170 i need 1.36V for 5.0.

Can you explain me that?

 

[EarthDog]

1. Depends on the boards used.
2. What his cpu does has ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON YOURS. NONE.
3. I'm certain you were reading software voltage on two different boards. Software voltage readings, as you likely know, aren't typically accurate.
4. My comparisons were on higher end z170 and z270 boards.

So long as you have the updated bios on z170 it should be well within reach of each other when using a comparable board between chipset to chipset.

 

[peche]

1. Depends on the boards used.
2. What his cpu does has ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON YOURS. NONE.
3. I'm certain you were reading software voltage on two different boards. Software voltage readings, as you likely know, aren't typically accurate.
4. My comparisons were on higher end z170 and z270 boards.

So long as you have the updated bios on z170 it should be well within reach of each other when using a comparable board between chipset to chipset.

message wasn't for me, but will help in some settings i
'll try on a new set up

Regards,

 

[Knoxx29]

So long as you have the updated bios on z170 it should be well within reach of each other when using a comparable board between chipset to chipset.

And why my Machine won't even boot when i try 5.1GHz on the Maximus VIII Rampage?

Ah, maybe my Motherboard it's not a High end one.

Note: i have tested my CPU on an Asus ROG Maximus IX Formula Gaming and as said before 1.31V was enough while in my Z170 it need 1.36V and on the same Z270 for 5.1GHz 1.35V was enough and in my Z170 1.35V for 5.1GHz as said before won't even post, there should be a logical explanation.

 

[EarthDog]

It's a different board. Different vrm setup..different behavior/end result. Doesn't mean it's the chipset. I'm sharing my experience with it.

I appreciate you sharing.

Edit: one thing I did notice on z270, was that the Asus board (apex) needed less voltage than the msi board (Xpower). The Asus had a bios or two out versus the early 1/2 on the msi (board I used for release day review). Perhaps that's part of it? No idea. But again, I didn't see any major difference (attributed to the chipset itself).

 

[Knoxx29]

It's a different board. Different vrm setup..different behavior/end result. Doesn't mean it's the chipset. I'm sharing my experience with it.

I appreciate you sharing.

Edit: one thing I did notice on z270, was that the Asus board (apex) needed less voltage than the msi board (Xpower). The Asus had a bios or two out versus the early 1/2 on the msi (board I used for release day review). Perhaps that's part of it? No idea. But again, I didn't see any major difference (attributed to the chipset itself).

It was said from the beginning that the Motherboards Z270 would be more suitable for the 7xxx serie CPUs.

Maybe i am wrong, i was drunk or i was dreaming

The only way i can use low voltages at 5.0GHz/5.1GHz or 5.3GHZ it's if i disable HT but honestly i don't know if it's a good thing on a 4c CPU.

 

[fullinfusion]

It was said from the beginning that the Motherboards Z270 would be more suitable for the 7xxx serie CPUs.

Maybe i am wrong, i was drunk or i was dreaming

The only way i can use low voltages at 5.0GHz/5.1GHz or 5.3GHZ it's if i disable HT but honestly i don't know if it's a good thing on a 4c CPU.

No you were right, I read it somewhere else that the 7700K chips would have no problems hitting 5ghz with no sweat on Z270 boards.

You not the first to mention it

 

[fullinfusion]

@manofthem @Norton @Tallencor @stinger608
Update, I knew I should've did the under side of the lid, and who said.... Hmmm

Well I say after seeing this!

And that's what an enthusiast does is trial and error, to do or not to do.. And now only 1 degree temp across all cores now.

This is what happens when you use CLU just on the die...

This is what it should look like
Also the lid looks to have a wider girth then the chip does but that's the scotch tape I used to move the excess over and once the tape is removed it matches the die itself.

 

[Tallencor]

@manofthem @Norton @Tallencor
Update, I knew I should've did the under side of the lid, and who said.... Hmmm

Well I say after seeing this!

And that's what an enthusiast does is trial and error, to do or not to do.. And now only 1 degree in temps across all cores.

This is what happens when you use CLU just on the die...

This is what it should look like
Also the lid looks to have a wider girth then the chip does but that's the scotch tape I used to move the excess over and once the tape is removed it matches the die itself.

Ugh. Is all okay? What made u decide you needed to take a look? Temp?
Looks like it got quite warm in the middle. .....

 

[fullinfusion]

Ugh. Is all okay? What made u decide you needed to take a look? Temp?
Looks like it got quite warm in the middle. .....

nope from all the looking around online EVERYONE does the chip and under the lid..

temps are much better now and more even.

Think about this, the CLU is kinda hard to attach till you get it to grab, then if there's nothing under the lid what's saying its going to adhere to it properly?

That's what your seeing in the top photo, The CLU didn't adhere to the lid in spots. I know someone is going to come in here and say *** you didn't clean it properly***

Well Yes I did! I 100% guarantee I did.

I've got OCD and It did bother me, so as to the reason I removed the lid to check

I see its getting better the longer it runs..

 

[fullinfusion]

WOW is all I got to say!

A difference between day and night!

 

[Tallencor]

WOW is all I got to say!

A difference between day and night!

Congrats man. Well deserved.

 

[fullinfusion]

Congrats man. Well deserved.

Thank you, 5.1ghz and hardly breaking a sweat of 50c right now with an ambient room temp of 19c

 

[fullinfusion]

Sure digging the low temps,

I've been running the past 28 min and counting on just FPU and WOW!!!!

And no hidden water chiller lol, Just poking fun @Knoxx29

 

[Tallencor]

Makes me wonder what they don't just do this from the get go.
Be worth the extra end user cost of 20 bucks for the added $4 manufacturing prosess.

 

[manofthem]

@manofthem @Norton @Tallencor @stinger608
Update, I knew I should've did the under side of the lid, and who said.... Hmmm

Well I say after seeing this!

And that's what an enthusiast does is trial and error, to do or not to do.. And now only 1 degree temp across all cores now.

This is what happens when you use CLU just on the die...

This is what it should look like
Also the lid looks to have a wider girth then the chip does but that's the scotch tape I used to move the excess over and once the tape is removed it matches the die itself.

nope from all the looking around online EVERYONE does the chip and under the lid..

temps are much better now and more even.

Think about this, the CLU is kinda hard to attach till you get it to grab, then if there's nothing under the lid what's saying its going to adhere to it properly?

That's what your seeing in the top photo, The CLU didn't adhere to the lid in spots. I know someone is going to come in here and say *** you didn't clean it properly***

Well Yes I did! I 100% guarantee I did.

I've got OCD and It did bother me, so as to the reason I removed the lid to check

I see its getting better the longer it runs..

That really is impressive! You did a great job with that chip, with the OC and with the delidding.

Interesting that you noticed improvements by hitting under the ihs too instead of just on top of die. I never did that with mine just on die, but I'll give it a try in the future. I need to tear down my rig and do a thorough cleaning, and when I do I'll pop the cpu out and try the same process as you.

Glad that beast was crunching for us in the challenge

 

[fullinfusion]

That really is impressive! You did a great job with that chip, with the OC and with the delidding.

Interesting that you noticed improvements by hitting under the ihs too instead of just on top of die. I never did that with mine just on die, but I'll give it a try in the future. I need to tear down my rig and do a thorough cleaning, and when I do I'll pop the cpu out and try the same process as you.

Glad that beast was crunching for us in the challenge

Yes that's why it bothered me,,, think of it this way, a drop of water bond to a surface without water be a simple process or a drop of water against another drop of water bond easier and faster?!

That's the key, both the lid and die and mate them together.. For running FPU alone is a heater on its own but not no more.. I'm up to 4.9 and only went up a couple degrees in temp.. heck I still have tones of head room..

And yes np on crunching, I'll resume before bed and still churn out some numbers over night and see how she holds up

 

[manofthem]

Yes that's why it bothered me,,, think of it this way, a drop of water bond to a surface without water be a simple process or a drop of water against another drop of water bond easier and faster?!

That's the key, both the lid and die and mate them together.. For running FPU alone is a heater on its own but not no more.. I'm up to 4.9 and only went up a couple degrees in temp.. heck I still have tones of head room..

And yes np on crunching, I'll resume before bed and still churn out some numbers over night and see how she holds up

I hear ya and I'm with you and I'm definitely going to try it when I can.

I do like your cpu though, fast and cool. Yours at 4.8 runs cooler than my 4770k after delid at 4.3. Thumbs up!

Great work, and thanks for the great posts in this thread. You covered a lot of ground that will prove to be very helpful and informative for many, including me

 

[fullinfusion]

I hear ya and I'm with you and I'm definitely going to try it when I can.

I do like your cpu though, fast and cool. Yours at 4.8 runs cooler than my 4770k after delid at 4.3. Thumbs up!

Great work, and thanks for the great posts in this thread. You covered a lot of ground that will prove to be very helpful and informative for many, including me

Thanks Man I appreciate it..