Dell Workstation Owners Club

[Remeca]

After upgrading my 9020 to the max, most recently replacing the RX 570 with a 1660 ti, I was still not satisfied with the overall performance in newer games. Average fps were ok, could run things at 60fps mostly maxed out at 1080p, but there was a lot of stuttering and fps drops at inopportune times. So, it is now going to replace the kid's core 2 duo pc. Got an Asus TUF Z590 plus, 11600k, 16gb 3200 ddr4, and my stuttering issues are history. And it will be a big step up in performance for the kid too. Still sad to let it go, it served me well for years.

 

[masterdeejay]

After my HP Z440 died, i removed the cpu, ram, ssd and i bought a bare Dell T5810 for a very cheap (~60 usd)
So the spec are:
Intel Xeon E5-2696v3 (3.8ghz turbo) from ebay
4x16gb ECC REG (cheap samsung 2Rx4 2133) from local seller
120gb Kinston SSD from old pc
Video cards is depends what i currently testing.
There is also an all core turbo unlocked bios for this dell, and resizable bar hack is also possible.
https://miyconst.github.io/hardware/workstation/dell/2020/05/01/dell-t5810.html
Resizable BAR on LGA 2011-3 X99

 

[uco73]

After my HP Z440 died, i removed the cpu, ram, ssd and i bought a bare Dell T5810 for a very cheap (~60 usd)
So the spec are:
Intel Xeon E5-2696v3 (3.8ghz turbo) from ebay
4x16gb ECC REG (cheap samsung 2Rx4 2133) from local seller
120gb Kinston SSD from old pc
Video cards is depends what i currently testing.
There is also an all core turbo unlocked bios for this dell, and resizable bar hack is also possible.
https://miyconst.github.io/hardware/workstation/dell/2020/05/01/dell-t5810.html
Resizable BAR on LGA 2011-3 X99

View attachment 295385

Dell is the best workstation.

 

[lexluthermiester]

After my HP Z440 died, i removed the cpu, ram, ssd and i bought a bare Dell T5810 for a very cheap (~60 usd)
So the spec are:
Intel Xeon E5-2696v3 (3.8ghz turbo) from ebay
4x16gb ECC REG (cheap samsung 2Rx4 2133) from local seller
120gb Kinston SSD from old pc
Video cards is depends what i currently testing.
There is also an all core turbo unlocked bios for this dell, and resizable bar hack is also possible.
https://miyconst.github.io/hardware/workstation/dell/2020/05/01/dell-t5810.html
Resizable BAR on LGA 2011-3 X99

View attachment 295385

So working well then?

 

[masterdeejay]

So working well then?

Yes, it works well. CPU cooler is weaker than the HPZ440 but anything else is better.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes, it works well. CPU cooler is weaker than the HPZ440 but anything else is better.

Should still keep cool.

 

[masterdeejay]

Should still keep cool.

Yes it keeps 60-70C on full load (prime95) but it is loud. Still silent on normal gaming and light-medium load.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes it keeps 60-70C on full load (prime95) but it is loud. Still silent on normal gaming and light-medium load.

Well, yeah, anything will get hot running Prime95. 60Cto70C is very good actually.

 

[masterdeejay]

The T7910 stock water cooler fits on the T5810?
I know this is uggly but that is why i like it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The T7910 stock water cooler fits on the T5810?

It looks like it might. Try it. Take pictures and show us how it works out.

 

[foxhoundocelot]

What's good my dudes just found this thread and its pretty dope, I have not had time to read through all the data here. however I may bring answers instead of questions for once lol. so I have had a dell t3600 for a while now and I have found utter joy in hardware hacking and reverse engineering OEM Desktop systems for something like 15 years now. anyway with that i was wondering if anyone ever decoded that front I\O panel for the 3600 3610 5810 and other boards that share I\O connector. If the answer is no then I may be able to decode that front I\O pinout. just looking at the cable for less than minute i can definitely I.D. the pins that carry VSS, VDD, data +, data- with 80% confidence LOL cuz you know dell may not use standard conductor color code but that is easy to figure out. also the diagnostic, power and HDD leds will also be very simple to sniff out with a bit of kit. so if someone has already figured out this issue someone please let me know on the other hand if that front connector is still a mystery I'm pretty sure I can solve it. yeah I know the systems are old as dirt but its more about tinkering with me and I don't think brand new tech is the place to stick your dirty soldering iron and shady scope probes LOL new parts aren't ready for that type of abuse... ... YET

 

[GarageMonster]

Welcome foxhoundocelot, I'm just a newbie here myself but have found a welcoming community here. Hooray Hooray, the T-7500 is back up. I'm so relieved, I thought that I had farked up the new mobo somehow. I will be installing the second cpu and more memory tomorrow after the dr's appointment. I purchased two refurbished 22" led monitors for $70 each as I was running out of displays. I will be posting again soon with more news. I would like to thank all those that have given me advice as I probably would have given up otherwise. You guys are the best. Thank you again!!!!!!

 

[lexluthermiester]

What's good my dudes just found this thread and its pretty dope

Welcome to TPU!

I have not had time to read through all the data here.

We've covered a lot in the last few years. Much to take in.

anyway with that i was wondering if anyone ever decoded that front I\O panel for the 3600 3610 5810 and other boards that share I\O connector.

I don't think anyone has done that yet here as that info can(or could at one point) be found on the Dell support site in the system service manuals. If looking for the T3600 service manual, it can be found below;

Support for Precision T3600 | Documentation | Dell US

If the manual doesn't have that info, maybe we all can put something together.

 

[foxhoundocelot]

Thanks guys I've got a T3600 E5-2665 32gb ram @1600mhz non EEC 1.5v gtx960 4gb open air test bench setup running off a repined and custom soldered 450watt lite-on PSU a hacked stock heat sync also from a dell 1st gen i7 but the TDP is almost the same as the E5-2665 it runs 30c at idle and some spinning rust SATA for now. after I look through the service manuals and check the thread more for info ill be mapping the pins of the front panel i\o for those of us that wanna run a cheap board in a non OEM case. I have done work like this before with the OptiPlex 990 it has a similar design to the Precision Workstation series of mainboard as far as the front I\O goes also if anyone wants that pinout for the 990 I still have the notes somewhere I can dig them out if anyone wants them. I'm also looking at getting a T5810 mainboard to play with . also can confirm if others have not already but the tesla k40m and the t3600 don't get along lol could not get a boot but i assume because no above 4g encoding config in the bios because you know dell, ill try with the 5810 when I get it and update on that has anyone here played with the tesla cards here? got it working on a x99 3rd party board but it is lacking in pcie slots I would love to use one of these dell boards for the tesla if possible. I have made a dumb simple mod for replacing the 4 pin fan header with a standard 4pin the fan still needs to be re pinned but that is a super simple task and it looks nice haha. here are some pics of the rig its not my daily driver more of project car if you will. gonna mount the psu route the cable and throw a SSD in it and make up a panel for that front I\O this whole rig cost me under 140 total so far so if anyone asks why lol well that's why. handles a ton of games pretty well too although i think the e5-1650 0 is better i run that in my other t3600 rig with a 1660 super in it .

 

[user:root]

i bought a bare Dell T5810 for a very cheap (~60 usd)
So the spec are:
Intel Xeon E5-2696v3 (3.8ghz turbo) from ebay
4x16gb ECC REG (cheap samsung 2Rx4 2133) from local seller

Does your ram run at 2133 with that configuration?

I am running 8 x 8gb and it won't run at 2133. I'm guessing its because of quad channel memory. I have been wondering if a 4x16 config will run at full speed but i wanna confirm it does before i buy new DIMMs

$ dmidecode --type 17  | grep -i speed         

        Speed: 2133 MT/s
        Configured Memory Speed: 1866 MT/s
        Speed: 2133 MT/s
        Configured Memory Speed: 1866 MT/s
        Speed: 2133 MT/s
        Configured Memory Speed: 1866 MT/s
        Speed: 2133 MT/s
        Configured Memory Speed: 1866 MT/s
        Speed: 2133 MT/s
        Configured Memory Speed: 1866 MT/s
        Speed: 2133 MT/s
        Configured Memory Speed: 1866 MT/s
        Speed: 2133 MT/s
        Configured Memory Speed: 1866 MT/s
        Speed: 2133 MT/s
        Configured Memory Speed: 1866 MT/s

-----------------------------------------
Memory Device
        Total Width: 72 bits
        Data Width: 64 bits
        Size: 8 GB
        Form Factor: RIMM
        Locator: DIMM4
        Type: DDR4
        Type Detail: Synchronous
        Speed: 2133 MT/s
        Manufacturer: Samsung
        Asset Tag: 024414B1
        Part Number: M393A1G43DB0-CPB  
        Rank: 2
        Configured Memory Speed: 1866 MT/s

 

[SiggiTheHun]

@user:root:
just populate the slots with the white tabs and you´ll see that with one DIMM per channel you achieve 2133 memory speed.

Sometimes it would be nice if Dell documented their boards like Supermicro does.
Good read re: DIMM configuration and performance on this dutchman´s site:

Memory Deep Dive Series - frankdenneman.nl

Processor speed and core counts are important factors when designing a new server platform. However with virtualization platforms, the memory subsystem can have equal or sometimes even have a greater impact on application performance than the processor speed. During my last trip I spend a lot...

frankdenneman.nl

Regards & Welcome

 

[user:root]

@user:root:
just populate the slots with the white tabs and you´ll see that with one DIMM per channel you achieve 2133 memory speed.

Sometimes it would be nice if Dell documented their boards like Supermicro does.
Good read re: DIMM configuration and performance on this dutchman´s site:

Memory Deep Dive Series - frankdenneman.nl

Processor speed and core counts are important factors when designing a new server platform. However with virtualization platforms, the memory subsystem can have equal or sometimes even have a greater impact on application performance than the processor speed. During my last trip I spend a lot...

frankdenneman.nl

Regards & Welcome

Thanks for the confirmation and thanks for the link. It was definitely worth reading.

 

[bakerlite]

Hey folks - has anybody sourced some more recent drivers for the T5500 - running dual x5690s with 24gb ram and been trying to get a new install running snappy - win 11 seemed buggy, win 7 uber fast but my editing software unsupported... settle on win 10 but not quite happy with some drivers giving high usage - especially usb driver which is raising the system latency and giving me problems with my editing software.
anyway - if anyone found some newer chipset drivers that work that would be super -
might end up having to disable onboard usb all together and go with a modern expansion card which has current win 10 drivers... but that's more money!!

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hey folks - has anybody sourced some more recent drivers for the T5500 - running dual x5690s with 24gb ram and been trying to get a new install running snappy - win 11 seemed buggy, win 7 uber fast but my editing software unsupported... settle on win 10 but not quite happy with some drivers giving high usage - especially usb driver which is raising the system latency and giving me problems with my editing software.
anyway - if anyone found some newer chipset drivers that work that would be super -
might end up having to disable onboard usb all together and go with a modern expansion card which has current win 10 drivers... but that's more money!!

Have you installed Intel drivers directly or are you allowing Windows to update drivers for you? The first option is best, disable the later.

BTW, Welcome to TPU!

 

[bakerlite]

Thanks for the welcome!
At the moment I am just using whatever win7 x64 drivers will install , no windows update .. (I'm not allowing any internet access for this machine as it's only for editing ) - however the drivers on the install image are probably newer!

 

[lexluthermiester]

At the moment I am just using whatever win7 x64 drivers will install

ON Win7 or on Win11? Either way, use a different computer to download the chipset driver utility from Dell or Intel.

Dell's latest are here;

Intel 5500/5520 Chipset Software Installation Utility, v.9.1.2.1007, A02 | Driver Details | Dell US

Intel's latest are here;

Intel® Server Chipset Driver for Windows* for legacy Intel® Server Board

The Intel® Chipset Device Software version 10.1.17903.8106 installs Windows* INF files to the target system.

www.intel.com

 

[SiggiTheHun]

The T7910 stock water cooler fits on the T5810?
I know this is uggly but that is why i like it.
View attachment 296032

CAUTION!

bolt pattern T7910:
80mm x 80mm (horizontal x vertical)

T5810 to me looks like 94mm x 56mm (h x v, like T3610)

Also the air tunnels are approx. 105mm apart (T7910) vs. approx. 85mm (T3610 / T5810 ??)

 

[masterdeejay]

Downgraded 2696v3 to 2687wv3
for testing.
And programmed an unlocked turbo bios. -50/-50mv undervolt.
The all core unlocked 2696v3 feels to hot (3.6-3.8ghz 18 core).
So this 2687wv3 is just 10 core 3.5ghz.
Runs fine.

 

[Nomisra]

Hi all, just been browsing through the posts, do you know if it's possible to enable Resize Bar to a Dell 5810 Bios? I'm using an RX 6650 XT, 8GB, and for the most part, it's fine but I'm sure it could work better with my Xeon 1680 3.20Ghz V3. Thanks.

 

[masterdeejay]

Hi all, just been browsing through the posts, do you know if it's possible to enable Resize Bar to a Dell 5810 Bios? I'm using an RX 6650 XT, 8GB, and for the most part, it's fine but I'm sure it could work better with my Xeon 1680 3.20Ghz V3. Thanks.

by default, there is no rebar enable option on the T5810.
The only way to enable it with bios modding. But it needs ch314a usb bios programmer.