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hi mates,

i am new (registered today) and will come back to tell a story about the Dell T7500 i bought few years ago ( during the Christmas period 2015 )
I just have to remember and list a few things that came up with, power up and grab some system pictures.

regards
 
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hi mates,

i am new (registered today) and will come back to tell a story about the Dell T7500 i bought few years ago ( during the Christmas period 2015 )
I just have to remember and list a few things that came up with, power up and grab some system pictures.

regards
Welcome to TPU and the club!
 

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So the Foxconn fans arrived today from China and they have a very short wire harness. The only open fan header that I seem to be able to find on the T3500 motherboards is off on the other side of the motherboard beside the FDD connector and seems to be for the HDD bay fan (not present in mine). Is there another fan header I'm missing somewhere that's open closer to the CPU or will I have to splice in longer wires?
 
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Clearing the CMOS will just change everything back to factory defaults, and hopefully fix any settings that may have been corrupted. You could write down your settings in the BIOS screens or take pictures. Up to you.

The post about warpage from weight of the T5500 riser may have been in the ThrottleStop overclocking thread.
 
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Processor Intel Xeon W3680 OC 4.00 Ghz (6 cores, 12 threads)
Motherboard Dell Precision T3500 09KPNV BIOS A17
Cooling x2 OEM Foxconn 120mm in front, Nidec Beta V 90mm on CPU, x2 Insignia fans 80mm as Exhaust
Memory 24GB DDR3 1600Mhz PC3-12800U Non-ECC 3x8GB Crucial
Video Card(s) XFX GTS Black Edition Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5 1405 Mhz
Storage x1 512GB Kingston KC400 SSD (boot), x1 Samsung 512GB SSD (games), and 2TB Seagate Mobile HDD
Display(s) x2 Dell Ultrasharp 2407WFPB (1920x1200, 60hz) & Samsung PN60F5500 3D Smart TV (1920x1080)
Case Dell Precision T5550 computer case
Audio Device(s) On-board sound (High Definition Audio Device), & AMD High Definition Audio Device
Power Supply Dell OEM 875W PSU
Mouse Rosewill NEON M62 (10000 DPI)
Keyboard Rosewill NEON K85 RGB (Kailh brown key switches)
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit version 1909
Benchmark Scores Unigine Heaven 4.0 Score: 1244;
Hello everyone again. I recently got a ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1080 TI and it will only display 2 monitors. I installed drivers, checked the BIOS, and ran diagnostics to no avail. My monitors are Dell Ultrasharp 2407WFP, i appreciate any help.:)

Edit: Never mind, i fixed it by changing the undetected monitor to "Extend desktop to this display" in multiple displays.:oops:
 
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Storage Samsung 860 EVO 250 GB 600 MBps and Seagate Barracuda, 2TB
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hey guys
so ive been playing on my t3500 and i love it but when i connect a Xbox wireless dongle to my pc i keep getting this warning/ troubleshoot:
not enough USB controller Resources.
and after that my wireless headset just turns off and sometimes my keyboard turns off 2.

any 1 knows a fix for this?
 
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T3600, Xeon 1620-0, 32Gb Ram, RTX2070, Bunch o drives. :)
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Case fans replaced with BeQuiet and the CPU fan with Noctua.

I keep saying I'm going to upgrade but here it still sits...Keeping some Mac Pro's company :)
 

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i keep getting this warning/ troubleshoot:
not enough USB controller Resources.
and after that my wireless headset just turns off and sometimes my keyboard turns off 2.

Too many Device's on usb controller ( each controller can only handle 500ma )
Move some devices to other ports ?
if that don't work add a 4 /5 port PCI USB Expansion Card
 
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Too many Device's on usb controller ( each controller can only handle 500ma )
Move some devices to other ports ?
if that don't work add a 4 /5 port PCI USB Expansion Card

yea i have allot of stuff plug in so i will get a usb card.
but does the 3.0 pcie usb card work like a usb 3.0? beacause the the t3500 only has 2.0 slots?
 

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USB 3 can supply more power for devices
you could also use an external USB HUB with its own power supply which should solve your problem
as at the moment your devices are drawing power from the USB ports.
with a powered Hub your only using the Computer USB ports for Data/signaling ( and in theory you can Daisy-chain up to 128 self powered devices)
 
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USB 3 can supply more power for devices
you could also use an external USB HUB with its own power supply which should solve your problem
as at the moment your devices are drawing power from the USB ports.
with a powered Hub your only using the Computer USB ports for Data/signaling ( and in theory you can Daisy-chain up to 128 self powered devices)

Mm ok id be better off with a hub then the pcie card.
Tnx for the info and help
 
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hey guys
so ive been playing on my t3500 and i love it but when i connect a Xbox wireless dongle to my pc i keep getting this warning/ troubleshoot:
not enough USB controller Resources.
and after that my wireless headset just turns off and sometimes my keyboard turns off 2.

any 1 knows a fix for this?
Might want to get a USB PCI/PCIe card and plug your headset and XBox controller into it. They're not expensive. Maybe $10 on Ebay/Amazon.
 
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Storage 1tb WD blue
Case Dell T3500
Been following this USB 3 discussion and did few tests with the T3500 using a cheaper 256gb stick (seen in purple) for redundant storage, so it will not win any benchmark contests. But it gives us an idea what's going on.

First image is benchmark on internal USB header just below the PCI slot. Speeds same with headers in back of case and front panel. Second image is same 256mb stick connected through this Inatek 7 port PCI card. Also moved a few very large video files around and results were about same - roughly 3 times faster than the T3500s 2.0 headers.

Top two motherboard PCI slots are incompatible with the PCI card physically. So ... with this fat gaming GPU only slot available was the bottom one. Card is powered direct from the Dell PSUs 4-pin molex by way of SATA adapters run behind the GPU.

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Win10 drivers for the card were downloaded direct from the Inateck website.
 

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Video Card(s) gtx 1060 6gb oc
Storage Samsung 860 EVO 250 GB 600 MBps and Seagate Barracuda, 2TB
Display(s) Acer ED347CKR
Power Supply dell 525w
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Been following this USB 3 discussion and did few tests with the T3500 using a cheaper 256gb stick (seen in purple) for redundant storage, so it will not win any benchmark contests. But it gives us an idea what's going on.

First image is benchmark on internal USB header just below the PCI slot. Speeds same with headers in back of case and front panel. Second image is same 256mb stick connected through this Inatek 7 port PCI card. Also moved a few very large video files around and results were about same - roughly 3 times faster than the T3500s 2.0 headers.

Top two motherboard PCI slots are incompatible with the PCI card physically. So ... with this fat gaming GPU only slot available was the bottom one. Card is powered direct from the Dell PSUs 4-pin molex by way of SATA adapters run behind the GPU.

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Win10 drivers for the card were downloaded direct from the Inateck website.

tnx for the info and the test ill get the same pci-e card that u have and a hub just to make sure.:)
 
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tnx for the info and the test ill get the same pci-e card that u have and a hub just to make sure.:)
Seems to me any good USB 3 solution will require direct power since the spec is about twice that of USB 2. Not sure what your case looks like inside. You may want to consider an adapter as extender since the included wires are rather short. What I did is buy a six inch 4-pin to female SATA adapter, then used the included male to female SATA at the card end.
 
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That would be very optimistic unless you're running the lowest end Ryzen3. The 1366 platform is a great one and still relevant, however let's be honest, the Ryzen 5/7 CPUs easily eclipse the whole platform.

If using a higher end GPU like RTX2080, one should go for ryzen 7, because if one has budget for rtx2080, vega 56, vega64 then cheaping it out on cpu won't make sense.

But if one goes for mid range GPU like 1660, 1060,1070 etc (which higher percentage of pc user would be doing). 6c/12t xeons won't bottleneck.

Cheapest 6 core Ryzen would cost 4 times that of used Xeon x5680, w3680.


In this vedio a cheaper $18 3rd gen 6c/12t Xeon was used which had clock speed of only 2.5 GHz, but with 3.33ghz x5680 or w3680 OCed up to 4ghz , there isn't any bottleneck for mid range gpus.
 
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Hello everyone again. I recently got a ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1080 TI and it will only display 2 monitors. I installed drivers, checked the BIOS, and ran diagnostics to no avail. My monitors are Dell Ultrasharp 2407WFP, i appreciate any help.:)

Edit: Never mind, i fixed it by changing the undetected monitor to "Extend desktop to this display" in multiple displays.:oops:

Does your processor bottleneck gtx1080ti ?
 
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I'm not part of the club, but this thread really got me interested in these old workstations. I shopped around and ended up with an HP z420 with E5-2650 v2 for $205. I almost went with a dual Xeon T7500, but it was hard to pass up an 8C/16T Ivy Bridge-E for that price. The rig didn't come with an HDD or GPU, but I'd prefer it that way since I'd want to upgrade both of those right away anyway. Thanks for the inspiration!
 
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I'm not part of the club, but this thread really got me interested in these old workstations. I shopped around and ended up with an HP z420 with E5-2650 v2 for $205. I almost went with a dual Xeon T7500, but it was hard to pass up an 8C/16T Ivy Bridge-E for that price. The rig didn't come with an HDD or GPU, but I'd prefer it that way since I'd want to upgrade both of those right away anyway. Thanks for the inspiration!
You're welcome! Have fun with that HP!
 
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Processor Intel Xeon W3680 OC 4.00 Ghz (6 cores, 12 threads)
Motherboard Dell Precision T3500 09KPNV BIOS A17
Cooling x2 OEM Foxconn 120mm in front, Nidec Beta V 90mm on CPU, x2 Insignia fans 80mm as Exhaust
Memory 24GB DDR3 1600Mhz PC3-12800U Non-ECC 3x8GB Crucial
Video Card(s) XFX GTS Black Edition Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5 1405 Mhz
Storage x1 512GB Kingston KC400 SSD (boot), x1 Samsung 512GB SSD (games), and 2TB Seagate Mobile HDD
Display(s) x2 Dell Ultrasharp 2407WFPB (1920x1200, 60hz) & Samsung PN60F5500 3D Smart TV (1920x1080)
Case Dell Precision T5550 computer case
Audio Device(s) On-board sound (High Definition Audio Device), & AMD High Definition Audio Device
Power Supply Dell OEM 875W PSU
Mouse Rosewill NEON M62 (10000 DPI)
Keyboard Rosewill NEON K85 RGB (Kailh brown key switches)
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit version 1909
Benchmark Scores Unigine Heaven 4.0 Score: 1244;
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If using a higher end GPU like RTX2080
I have one...
But if one goes for mid range GPU like 1660, 1060,1070 etc (which higher percentage of pc user would be doing). 6c/12t xeons won't bottleneck.
Does your processor bottleneck gtx1080ti ?
...and it is only bottlenecked in certain games and then only marginally. Should I upgrade? Maybe. For much of what I do, my X5680 is more than enough.
 
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System Name XENOS (z-ee-n-oh-s)
Processor Intel Xeon W3680 OC 4.00 Ghz (6 cores, 12 threads)
Motherboard Dell Precision T3500 09KPNV BIOS A17
Cooling x2 OEM Foxconn 120mm in front, Nidec Beta V 90mm on CPU, x2 Insignia fans 80mm as Exhaust
Memory 24GB DDR3 1600Mhz PC3-12800U Non-ECC 3x8GB Crucial
Video Card(s) XFX GTS Black Edition Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5 1405 Mhz
Storage x1 512GB Kingston KC400 SSD (boot), x1 Samsung 512GB SSD (games), and 2TB Seagate Mobile HDD
Display(s) x2 Dell Ultrasharp 2407WFPB (1920x1200, 60hz) & Samsung PN60F5500 3D Smart TV (1920x1080)
Case Dell Precision T5550 computer case
Audio Device(s) On-board sound (High Definition Audio Device), & AMD High Definition Audio Device
Power Supply Dell OEM 875W PSU
Mouse Rosewill NEON M62 (10000 DPI)
Keyboard Rosewill NEON K85 RGB (Kailh brown key switches)
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit version 1909
Benchmark Scores Unigine Heaven 4.0 Score: 1244;
Hi everybody. Does anyone know if a Xeon W3690 works on T5500 mobo?:confused:

I'm currently investing on the processor itself along with T3500 mobo because i could not find any forums that confirms t5500 compatible besides X56XX & E5XXX processors. May seem like a stupid question, i just want a answer if that's not too much to ask.:D
 
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Hi everybody. Does anyone know if a Xeon W3690 works on T5500 mobo?:confused:

I'm currently investing on the processor itself along with T3500 mobo because i could not find any forums that confirms t5500 compatible besides X56XX & E5XXX processors. May seem like a stupid question, i just want a answer if that's not too much to ask.:D
The W3690 is basically the single CPU version of the X5690. The X-series supports dual socket, the W-series does not. I liked using the X-series chips in my old single socket 4,1 Mac Pro.
 
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