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Despite Estimates Cuts, Analyst Bets on Haswell Success

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Following last Friday's Q3 outlook lowering by Intel, market punters such as Merrill Lynch cut estimates. Vivek Arya, an analyst with the firm, cut its Q3 and Q4 estimates for Intel, while remaining optimistic about upcoming processes in the company's pitched battle with ARM in the lightweight SoC segment. Arya believes that with upcoming technologies, Intel has a fighting chance against ARM heavyweights. Said Arya in his report:

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Chipping away in the mobile market is something I would not bet on
 
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Twice the performance in graphics. Probably pushed the numbers a bit, but still a huge jump.
 
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Twice the performance in graphics. Probably pushed the numbers a bit, but still a huge jump.
It's like saying we turbocharged the Moskvich so it has twice the power! But in the end of the day, it's still crap even with that...
 
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Intel and AMD have helped kill

Dec Alpha
Mips
Pa-Risc
Intel 860...

Amd helped alot with there 64bit X86
Intel helped with there itanium.

Rather than try and just dominate the Chip market why dosn't intel take its head of of its backside and help....


I think intel will be fine...

Although if I could get a desktop board and drop in an arm cpu Id almost say good bye to X86.
 

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Intel and AMD have helped kill

Dec Alpha
Mips
Pa-Risc
Intel 860...

Amd helped alot with there 64bit X86
Intel helped with there itanium.

Rather than try and just dominate the Chip market why dosn't intel take its head of of its backside and help....


I think intel will be fine...

Although if I could get a desktop board and drop in an arm cpu Id almost say good bye to X86.
:confused: Most of those words mean things, but in that order they don't.

intel, like any company is in it to make money they never set out to "kill" other businesses, mips is still alive and well, DEC collapsed because of mismanagement and all the good bits from alpha were taken by intel and amd anyway. Pa-risc was to expensive for HP to maintain and intel's own risc experiment was just that.
 
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Although if I could get a desktop board and drop in an arm cpu Id almost say good bye to X86.
The ARM Cortex A15 architecture will only be approaching the low end desktop performance range, with a quad core, at its higher end clocks (2.0 - 2.5 Ghz). Still 32 bit though.
64 bit ARM (v8), is not yet available; probably another 2 years.

If Intel can produce something with low power consumption, then a Haswell based Atom could be a serious competitor for ARM.
 

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Get Ready

Chipping away in the mobile market is something I would not bet on
Be careful. Intel certainly had a very modest first release into the mobile arena, but they have VERY deep pockets, and the ability (and capacity) to have a huge impact. The other chip makers better be ready for what Intel can do.
 
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Twice the performance in graphics. Probably pushed the numbers a bit, but still a huge jump.
Lol it's like every new gpu release.. They always scream how it doubles and triples performance.. But it never does.. XD
 
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Intel is using bulk (crap) finfet and shrinking it even more is going to suck hard, but outlook is good? Okay, as long as the outlook doesn't go pass 22 (or more like 26 :|).

Fab costs are going to skyrocket in a couple more nodes and intel having tons of fabs isn't going to be a plus for investors.