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Got a notification from UPS this morning, I thought it would be your package will be delivered today. Nope, Newegg screwed me again. They didn't ship my stuff until after midnight so now what was supposed to be here today isn't coming until tomorrow. So sad, all dressed and ready for the big dance but my date is gonna be really late!
Just hope they don't do like UPS has before with my stuff and probrably will this time around.
Was showing it being due to arrive tomorrow and now it's saying Saturday.... Even though it's at the local UPS hub right now.

They'll send it off for a joyride on another truck to a different UPS hub, then send it back from there so it can't arrive early. My stuff was ordered on the 7th and yet to see any of it so don't feel left out here, I'm in the same boat.
 
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Is there any difference (or maybe significant) between 3700x and 3800x? I was hoping TPU would have them compared.
I was hoping someone would have a review posted by now. TPU would have been my preference. I just want to see some Handbrake x265 numbers. Doesn't matter now, it's already on the way.

As @TheLostSwede already said TDP is 40 Watts higher. Base clock is faster 3.9Ghz vs 3.6Ghz, max boost is a little higher 4.5Ghz vs 4.4Ghz, doubt we will see that. Based on what has come out so far, I'm guessing 2% faster on average but all core performance should be at least 5% faster considering the base clock is more than 7% faster. That is, if you can keep the thermals in check.

Just hope they don't do like UPS has before with my stuff and probrably will this time around.
Shows it being due to arrive tomorrow and now it's saying Saturday.... Even though it's at the local UPS hub right now.

They'll send it off for a joyride on another truck to a different UPS hub, then send it back from there so it can't arrive early. My stuff was ordered on the 7th and yet to see any of it so don't feel left out here, I'm in the same boat.
I've seen that with Fedex a lot, the package sits in the local hub until the last day. I've seen crap from the next state over sit in a warehouse for a 7 days to hit their 5 business day delivery. UPS is usually better but tracking says it is still in California. It better be on a plane by tonight or my shipping is being refunded! UPS won't deliver it until Monday if they miss tomorrow.
 

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Is there any difference (or maybe significant) between 3700x and 3800x? I was hoping TPU would have them compared.
One has a single chiplet + IO die while the other has 2 chiplets + IO die.

It will be much more likely for the 3800X to OC higher because each chiplet only has 4 cores.
 
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One has a single chiplet + IO die while the other has 2 chiplets + IO die.

It will be much more likely for the 3800X to OC higher because each chiplet only has 4 cores.
Do you have any sources that can confirm that ?
 
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Wrong. The 3700X and 3800X both have a single chiplet, while the 3900X and 3950X have a dual chiplet design. There are no quad core chiplets, only six and eight.

The 3800X is the same chip as the 3700X with higher boost clocks and a higher TDP to allow for it. They're identical and most likely (TBC) clock the same.

Just hope they don't do like UPS has before with my stuff and probrably will this time around.
Was showing it being due to arrive tomorrow and now it's saying Saturday.... Even though it's at the local UPS hub right now.

They'll send it off for a joyride on another truck to a different UPS hub, then send it back from there so it can't arrive early. My stuff was ordered on the 7th and yet to see any of it so don't feel left out here, I'm in the same boat.
Been there with them as well... in the local hub, sent from Cleveland area to Cincinnati, and then back up the following day. I've also had one go back to Kentucky before coming back to Cleveland and then getting finally delivered the next day. They're... interesting.
 

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Wrong. The 3700X and 3800X both have a single chiplet, while the 3900X and 3950X have a dual chiplet design. There are no quad core chiplets, only six and eight.

The 3800X is the same chip as the 3700X with higher boost clocks and a higher TDP to allow for it. They're identical and most likely (TBC) clock the same.
*Looks @ 3200G and 3400G ...

You sure?

Do you have any sources that can confirm that ?
Only "he who shall not be named" ...

Short of seeing one delided, i can't prove either way.
 
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@W1zzard can you buy a 3800X and delid it ? :)
People are very curious on what's inside...
 
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Just missing the new case, PSU and cooler...

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Only annoying thing is that Captain Aorus seems to have been doing some graffiti on the back of the board...
 
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Just missing the new case, PSU and cooler...

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Only annoying thing is that Captain Aorus seems to have been doing some graffiti on the back of the board...
Marketing gone wild... I wonder if there are thermal pads under all that armor. If those were $60 cheaper, I would have seriously consider one. I will miss the post codes and on-board power buttons but $360 for a motherboard is too much. I paid about $100 less and I'm still thinking it was a ripoff. When I first got into overclocking and tweaking Abit made terrific motherboards and I paid like $100-120 for a fully loaded motherboard. That was in a time period when a cheap off the shelf computer was about a $1000. How things have changed. Those boards would cost $400-500 these days yet I can buy a whole cheap computer for the cost of my old motherboard and I can put that computer in my pocket too...
 

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Puts the Asus ROG B450F I will be using to shame lol.
 
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Puts the Asus ROG B450F I will be using to shame lol.
Ha, that board is covered in tattoos, ones that light-up too. Good feature set, nice pricing. I wonder how good the VRMs are...
 

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Very good, reviews/overclocking suggest it can match the mid to higher end X470 boards and beat quite a few clocking Ryzen 2700X and as I don't need all them cores I will get a 3600X on my next build in a couple of months.
 
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Marketing gone wild... I wonder if there are thermal pads under all that armor. If those were $60 cheaper, I would have seriously consider one. I will miss the post codes and on-board power buttons but $360 for a motherboard is too much. I paid about $100 less and I'm still thinking it was a ripoff. When I first got into overclocking and tweaking Abit made terrific motherboards and I paid like $100-120 for a fully loaded motherboard. That was in a time period when a cheap off the shelf computer was about a $1000. How things have changed. Those boards would cost $400-500 these days yet I can buy a whole cheap computer for the cost of my old motherboard and I can put that computer in my pocket too...
Ah, Abit, my first motherboard love... :D
I've had so many Abit motherboards over the years. Even had the fabled BP6 with a pair of Celeron 300's at 450MHz. I think the second CPU actually never did anything, but hey...

They were way ahead of their time though, as they even got rid of the PS/2 ports at one point, only problem was, you couldn't install Windows XP on those boards, as it didn't detect USB mice in its early iterations.

There are reasons for the increased costs, as we've gone from fairly simple motherboards, to rather complex motherboards these days. Most are also very over-specced, to a degree that you're paying for things you'll never use, much like my second Celeron processor...
I mean, what did you get back then on a high-end board? Crap sound, if any sound at all, no Ethernet for the longest of times and sometimes even then, it was a turd, the add-in card interfaces were quite simple, at least compared to PCIe 4.0, fairly low speed storage interfaces and so on... Ok, it was high-tech back then, but it wasn't as complicated. Also, looking at some board pictures, most boards had 2-3 power phases for the CPU, even on the high-end boards, now you're looking at a minimum of six, unless it's a really crappy board, but a dozen on more on high-end boards. Component quality has increased massively as well, anyone remember the issues MSI had with those crappy capacitors that popped? I think it affected other companies too, but them worse than most. Now you can take a budget board and put a 12-core CPU in it and it'll still work, back then, the board would've blown up.
I also remember my dad buying our first computer, a Mitac 386SX-16, it was around US$2,700 back then, which is around US$4,000 in today's money, not exactly cheap and it can't even compete with an entry level smartphone today. But yes, this "hobby" is getting expensive.
 
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Besides that i will get a PCIe gen 4 NVMe m.2 SSD for my OS properly a 500 GB or so. maybe Samsung 980 EVO/PRO when they come some time in the future.
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It will all be put in to my old case for now and reuse the rest of my old hardware for now. later put it all over in a new case. But for that i need to save up more money again. Its not a cheap upgrade this one you know.
 
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Ah, Abit, my first motherboard love... :D
I've had so many Abit motherboards over the years. Even had the fabled BP6 with a pair of Celeron 300's at 450MHz. I think the second CPU actually never did anything, but hey...

They were way ahead of their time though, as they even got rid of the PS/2 ports at one point, only problem was, you couldn't install Windows XP on those boards, as it didn't detect USB mice in its early iterations.

There are reasons for the increased costs, as we've gone from fairly simple motherboards, to rather complex motherboards these days. Most are also very over-specced, to a degree that you're paying for things you'll never use, much like my second Celeron processor...
I mean, what did you get back then on a high-end board? Crap sound, if any sound at all, no Ethernet for the longest of times and sometimes even then, it was a turd, the add-in card interfaces were quite simple, at least compared to PCIe 4.0, fairly low speed storage interfaces and so on... Ok, it was high-tech back then, but it wasn't as complicated. Also, looking at some board pictures, most boards had 2-3 power phases for the CPU, even on the high-end boards, now you're looking at a minimum of six, unless it's a really crappy board, but a dozen on more on high-end boards. Component quality has increased massively as well, anyone remember the issues MSI had with those crappy capacitors that popped? I think it affected other companies too, but them worse than most. Now you can take a budget board and put a 12-core CPU in it and it'll still work, back then, the board would've blown up.
I also remember my dad buying our first computer, a Mitac 386SX-16, it was around US$2,700 back then, which is around US$4,000 in today's money, not exactly cheap and it can't even compete with an entry level smartphone today. But yes, this "hobby" is getting expensive.
You are right, no integrated audio or LAN but look at the price difference between the entry boards and the high-end stuff. 10x or more now back then maybe double. I think my first Abit board was a BF6 with the slot 1 Celeron 300, OCed the Celeron to 450 like clockwork. Good times, I bought my first PC used from a High School friend who was an exchange student from South Korea. It was an AMD 386DX40 with a ULSI 387DX40 math co-processor. 8MB of RAM, 120MB IDE boot and 210MB IDE secondary drive, a 2x CD-ROM that attached to a Creative sound card. It ran MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11, it was a steal at $500. I worked a lot hours paying that off. It was worth every penny too. He used the money towards paying his parents back for the Dell 486DX66 he bought for like $2500. The entry level is cheaper now but you easily spend as much or more than they did back then.
 
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Erm... what? I checked the BIOS lists for my x370 and it doesn't support 3900x. It lists 3700x and 3800x as the top cpu support. Not a bad thing as I was looking at a 3800x anyway.
 
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I may well give one a try on my next build, probably in the Autumn, I don't really need masses of cores/threads as I only do a bit of light gaming and some MS Office so I will probably go for the 3600X with it's 6 core 12 thread setup coupled with a X470 board and a RAM upgrade, as much because it's been so long since I had an AMD CPU (13 years) and it's a lot more worthwhile now.
I play Destiny 2, and unfortunately AMD still does not have a fix for that game working on Ryzen CPU's... so I have to stick to Intel for now >.> also curious how many games from 10+ years ago don't work on Ryzen... Destiny 2 probably isn't the only one, just the only modern one. So eh... not risking AMD just yet.
 
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Erm... what? I checked the BIOS lists for my x370 and it doesn't support 3900x. It lists 3700x and 3800x as the top cpu support. Not a bad thing as I was looking at a 3800x anyway.
I would think the boards VRM is not geared for the 3900X load on the VRM and by that it can not support it.

@W1zzard can you buy a 3800X and delid it ? :)
People are very curious on what's inside...
Well its a Ryzen 5 3600, but i will think it has the same inside as the 3800X:p.

 
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I play Destiny 2, and unfortunately AMD still does not have a fix for that game working on Ryzen CPU's... so I have to stick to Intel for now >.> also curious how many games from 10+ years ago don't work on Ryzen... Destiny 2 probably isn't the only one, just the only modern one. So eh... not risking AMD just yet.
Im sure all will be fine soon, its not AMD its Bungie, they're working on a patch for it.
 
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Jees, new cpu's and mobos are so expensive, AMD forgot themselves... There are mobos like 800eur and up and a 8c/16t cpu is around 500eur, what a shame though.... apperentely will skip this generation, cause gaming performance is similar to the last one...
 
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For those that have a Ryzen 3000 series, it's suggested by AMD to use CPU-Z for observing the last known idle voltage of a core before it entered the cc6 state. The alternative is Ryzen Master will show you the clock speed, and idle voltage when a core is in the cc6 state.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g
 
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