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Do you think Broadwell "K Series" will still use FIVR on die.

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Haswell with FIVR is hot as hell.
My cooling is CM Seidon 240M , ambient temp is ~28C

Delidded 4670K with MX-4 test with normal LinX (no AVX)
@ 4.5Ghz 1.17V temp is ~80C
@ 4.6Ghz 1.23V temp is ~86C
@ 4.7Ghz 1.29V temp is ~93C
I would expect if replace TIM with LiquidPro temp should be around 10C cooler than MX-4.
If test with LinX AVX version (0.6.5) temp should be 10C hotter.
So that would be confute if do both.
But I don't test with both LiquidPro and LinX AVX cause I feel disappoint and sold it 3 months ago.

Then I return to Ivy Bridge 3770K delidded it and this time replace TIM with LiquidPro.
@ 4.5Ghz 1.12V LinX temp is ~56C
@ 4.5Ghz 1.13V LinX AVX temp is ~62C
@ 4.8Ghz 1.26V LinX AVX temp is ~74C
@ 5.0Ghz 1.35V LinX AVX temp is ~85C

Clearly Ivy temp 1.35V = Haswell 1.23V

I read somewhere Haswell is hot because FIVR (fully integrate voltage regulator)
Is it possible if Boardwell K series will move it out of die ???
 

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http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-2014-desktop-processor-roadmap-leaked-broadwell-k-socketed_126888

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The most interesting this on the slide is the introduction of Broadwell-K processors in late 2014. Details are sketchy, but from what we gather Intel’s 9-series chipsets will support both Broadwell (BRW) and Haswell Refresh (HSW-R) microprocessors, but will lack support of current-generation Haswell processors. This is due to the fact that the 4th Generation Core i processors have an integrated voltage regulator (Intel calls this FIVR: Haswell’s Fully Integrated Voltage Regulator.) It appears that Intel has moved this back off-die and back onto the motherboards, in an attempt to reduce the heat produced by the processor. This means that those building Intel Haswell platforms today with the 8 series chipset could end up with no upgrade path when it comes to the processor. This is certainly not good for enthusiasts that always like to have an upgrade path, especially on a brand new socket.
Read more at http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-2...oadwell-k-socketed_126888#xochxJLloTTlQSFj.99

Dunno if it's correct.
 
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Excellent !! hope to see i7-5770K @ 5Ghz on close loop.

Another thing
From 45nm to 32nm Ghz wall is increase significantly (i5-750 @ 4.2Ghz VS i5-2500K @ 5.0Ghz)
But from 32nm to 22nm nothing change.
Then 22nm to 14nm ?? can't wait to see.
 
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