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Do you think Trump's presidency will affect the hardware industry?

Do you think Donald Trump's presidency will affect the hardware industry?

  • Yes, I'm concerned

    Votes: 3,124 28.3%
  • Yes, things will be better

    Votes: 1,555 14.1%
  • No, nothing will change

    Votes: 4,980 45.1%
  • Don't know

    Votes: 1,377 12.5%

  • Total voters
    11,036
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That's impossible. Reason: there simply isn't enough gold to go around. On top of that, electronics use gold so the price or electronics (and other goods produced with gold) would soar.

Ah the amount doesn't matter, indeed US had it's gold stolen from WTC and from the treasury but that doesn't mean it can't get some back.

Gold standard means that dollar is based on it. Currently it's based on nothing, it's just a fancy piece of paper worth exactly as much as the collective consensus believes it is.

The current gold prices are not realistic since shark banks always keep manipulating the price by strategic and in-bad-faith buying and reselling.

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That's the very definition of "fiat."

Yes, but for example Poland can't print billions of Zloty to buy oil without wrecking their currency. The USA can.
 
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Just a couple of things
First Gold is not a good measure or standard for currency. Historically its has not done well as an investment, the markets do much better. Second all the US has to do to complete with global manufacturing is impose a tariff on imports. But this can back fire. Government prints or (not print) money as a way to control inflation. Its the largest tax anyone pays.
 

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Yes, but for example Poland can't print billions of Zloty to buy oil without wrecking their currency. The USA can.
USA can't. Case in point, if you minus inflation (devaluation of dollar), the US economy hasn't actually grown since 2006. The dollar absorbed most of the financial collapse. The only reason why that didn't really matter is because the rest of the world largely went down with it (only major exception being China but at the time, they fixed their currency to the dollar so they didn't actually benefit from the fall of the USD).
 
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Guys, economy will start working the moment workers start rebuilding the infrastructure and dat wall ... by the way, it's a 10 year plan it won't happen in the first year of the presidency.

If sound money happens, which means getting rid of federal reserve and totally reforming the IRS, you won't be paying so much taxes anymore to begin with, and those taxes won't need to go back to some banksters to pay their butts back.
 
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Yeah, I think China can expect big tariffs. Most electronics (transformers and components aside) are made in Taiwan, Malyasia, etc. Cheap IPTV boxes and smartphones though? Watch out.
 
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Hopefully this is purely to make fun of this sad clip widely circulated by libtards to point out Trump is supposedly a moron and is obsessed with China with ridiculous edits...however if not I say this...

Wow....So brilliant...taking an already overused stupid, pointless, meaningless montage put together by some self-appointed genius that took one word/Country (China); and put it into a montage with no context and hardly any other words around it so the entire clip is as "big league" an attempt at utter futility and catastrophic failure as an attempt at a circle jerk with the circle consisting of alternating blue whales and baby turtles.
 
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Hopefully this is purely to make fun of this sad clip widely circulated by libtards to point out Trump is supposedly a moron and is obsessed with China with ridiculous edits...however if not I say this...

Wow....So brilliant...taking an already overused stupid, pointless, meaningless montage put together by some self-appointed genius that took one word/Country (China); and put it into a montage with no context and hardly any other words around it so the entire clip is as "big league" an attempt at utter futility and catastrophic failure as an attempt at a circle jerk with the circle consisting of alternating blue whales and baby turtles.

Though Trump talked a great deal about China (after all they are the biggest exporter of manufactured goods) I find it very unlikely he would (or could) start a major trade war by slapping huge blanket tariffs on Chinese goods. The US sells a lot of stuff back to the Chinese. Even if the iphones are manufactured in China, it is still Apple making the biggest profit. As China becomes richer they will become a bigger market.
A more viable strategy is to make sure that the money Apple (I'm using them as an obvious example) make is taxed in the US.

Tariffs almost certainly will be used in specific instances, as they have been under the present administration- like the 266% steel tariff. But blanket tariffs would be insane.

The reason I chose that youtube to post was that I thought this thread could do with lightening up a bit and that satire has historically been an essential part of democracy. In my opinion if we can't mock politicians we have a problem. But I'm sorry if it offended you.
 
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People hate Trump because he's not Clinton.


That's the very definition of "fiat."

Completely wrong! People hate Trump because of His Action/Behaviour.People want someone better than both.

More cost means bad news for Customers in Eu and Asia.
 
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Though Trump talked a great deal about China (after all they are the biggest exporter of manufactured goods) I find it very unlikely he would (or could) start a major trade war by slapping huge blanket tariffs on Chinese goods. The US sells a lot of stuff back to the Chinese. Even if the iphones are manufactured in China, it is still Apple making the biggest profit. As China becomes richer they will become a bigger market.
A more viable strategy is to make sure that the money Apple (I'm using them as an obvious example) make is taxed in the US.

Tariffs almost certainly will be used in specific instances, as they have been under the present administration- like the 266% steel tariff. But blanket tariffs would be insane.

The reason I chose that youtube to post was that I thought this thread could do with lightening up a bit and that satire has historically been an essential part of democracy. In my opinion if we can't mock politicians we have a problem. But I'm sorry if it offended you.

Nope, I'm a conservative I don't take offense I say what I believe and protect the opinions and institutions I feel are being assaulted or misaligned big difference to simply taking offense. Notice if you read the first sentence I said or was trying to say essentially if this is a joke (making fun of clip or just general being humorous I should've added) then forget my next sentence entirely, which if you read it carefully was full of humor yet while still trying to make a point. Point being is that clip was so widely used as a means of discrediting Trump simply because libtards put it out there as if he were obsessed with China and maybe implying it's all he ever says. At any rate...I'm not offended if it were meant purely for humor as I did consider bravo and regardless of what it is there for screw me being "offended" it shouldn't matter even IF I were you have the right to post it. I was merely tired of that particular clip and people arguing about China and how Trump is stupid, doesn't know what he's talking about blah blah blah...and that clip was a widely circulated (obviously since you found it) piece of crap they actually tried to pass as "intellligent" discourse and yes I just saw too much of it lol.

However, you HAVE to admit you realized even though I hate that clip and how it was used (during campaign not by you per se) I also used it to be creative and go over the top with a simile I had never used before, and can almost guarantee no one on earth has so I was kinda smiling as I wrote it hoping I'd get some laughs and shock value for bizarre originality. Also I even was using one of Trump's own phrases "big league" to make it even more ironic.
 
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Though Trump talked a great deal about China (after all they are the biggest exporter of manufactured goods) I find it very unlikely he would (or could) start a major trade war by slapping huge blanket tariffs on Chinese goods. The US sells a lot of stuff back to the Chinese. Even if the iphones are manufactured in China, it is still Apple making the biggest profit. As China becomes richer they will become a bigger market.
A more viable strategy is to make sure that the money Apple (I'm using them as an obvious example) make is taxed in the US.

Tariffs almost certainly will be used in specific instances, as they have been under the present administration- like the 266% steel tariff. But blanket tariffs would be insane.

The reason I chose that youtube to post was that I thought this thread could do with lightening up a bit and that satire has historically been an essential part of democracy. In my opinion if we can't mock politicians we have a problem. But I'm sorry if it offended you.

Are you guys reading?

Not only it was part of his 100 day plan from his speech, here it is also from his website in a more detailed way.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/trade/

7. Use every lawful presidential power to remedy trade disputes if China does not stop its illegal activities, including its theft of American trade secrets - including the application of tariffs consistent with Section 201 and 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 and Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962.

This has been known for 2 months now.

No wonder world leaders are furious, but who cares, it's not their country.
 
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It's actually about 30 million. Again, insider knowledge. It's a crisis that obama administration has intentionally downplayed.

There are 30 Million illegal aliens in the Peoples Republic Of California alone.
 
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Nothing much will change in the hardware industry.

Trump can encourage some companies not to move offshore and may even bring some jobs back to the states. He won't eliminate global competition or make ALL companies manufacture here. We don't have the TPP now, not having it in the future won't cause dramatic change in the industry.
 
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U.S President is merely just a figure head. They don't have any powers anymore, and serves as a gimmick to instill false sense of democracy to the sheeps. Only way to make Murica great again is by collapsing the empire altogether and start over fresh, just like all the previous empires before them.
 

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Half the country hates Trump. The other half sees this.......

 

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U.S President is merely just a figure head. They don't have any powers anymore, and serves as a gimmick to instill false sense of democracy to the sheeps. Only way to make Murica great again is by collapsing the empire altogether and start over fresh, just like all the previous empires before them.
This is not true. POTUS is constrained by Congress but POTUS still has a lot of power/influence through executive orders. Just because the law is on the books doesn't mean the POTUS has to enforce them evenly.
 
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The Paris Climate Change Treaty was a joke. Pointless feel good crap. Let me know when China, Brazil, Mexico and India start doing something serious about Climate Change and Ill listen.


Qubit you understand they later admitted that most of the "disturbances" at his rallies were organize by some shady DNC insiders. Its on tape for S#!T sake! Look it up.
Says Trump supporters, DNC is rotten but they had nothing to do with it!
 
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Might as well be a NAZI flag behind him!

You're aware that Nazi's are left-wing, right? :rolleyes: They are Socialists, almost as far left as Communists.

Check your history, it was a little propaganda trick created by the commies to call them "right wing" because they were technically to the right of communism on the political spectrum. It created the illusion for their barely educated peasant supporters that the Nazis were extremists.

I really dislike when people try to make learned opinions about something they do not have the background for.
 
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It will be interesting to see if any fraud is found from the recount audit of the vote, as Hillary has joined Jill Stein in the process.
 
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Jill is being paid by Soros for this shit
 

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It will be interesting to see if any fraud is found from the recount audit of the vote, as Hillary has joined Jill Stein in the process.
The electronic voting machines? Pretty doubtful because many eyes focus on their hardware and software design because of that very concern. General fraud? Sure, happens every election, 2016 was no exception and it's overwhelmingly in favor of Clinton. Because the DNC does their best to make voting unaccountable by opposing voter ID laws, it's impossible to know how many counted votes are illegal. They can only catch the obvious ones and often years after the fact.
 
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The electronic voting machines? Pretty doubtful because many eyes focus on their hardware and software design because of that very concern. General fraud? Sure, happens every election, 2016 was no exception and it's overwhelmingly in favor of Clinton. Because the DNC does their best to make voting unaccountable by opposing voter ID laws, it's impossible to know how many counted votes are illegal. They can only catch the obvious ones and often years after the fact.

The Diebold machines are made to be manipulated with a convenient memory card slot.
http://static.usenix.org/event/evt07/tech/full_papers/feldman/feldman_html/
 
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You're aware that Nazi's are left-wing, right? :rolleyes: They are Socialists, almost as far left as Communists.

I love you RTWjunkie, but as a historian (I was a history minor in College, specialising in western European mainly but you get the point), you couldn't be more wrong. Just because they use the word "socialist" in their name does not make them such. They are extremely social right-wing with governmental police state properties. This is at harsh odds with the communist party on the first point, to the point that dutch communist agents burnt down the Reichstag prior to WW2.

Ironically, it's one of the few things Hitler was likely honest about: The commies really did burn down his palace (and not even the Russian ones!)

There are some similar elements, such as the complete control of the life of citizens and police state mentality that seem to go hand in hand with the communist ideology, but the demographic segment could not be more different. Thus calling them "leftist" really is misleading.

Half the country hates Trump. The other half sees this.......


I still just see the petty reality TV star you want to believe is the man in this picture.

Frankly, I prefer this one if we're going to mock the candidates with ridicules photos (I know it's not your intention, but you still managed it. Anyways, got this one from Cyanide and happiness random the other day):

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