• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

Does Nvidia's 3D vision kit work with 120hz or 3D-enabled TVs?

Status
Not open for further replies.
Joined
Jan 8, 2009
Messages
436 (0.13/day)
Likes
90
Location
Florida
System Name AMD RyZen PC
Processor AMD RyZen 1800x
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair VI Hero 370x
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 MHz 14C x2
Video Card(s) AMD Radion VEGA 64 / 280x
Storage Seagate 3TB + 2TB + 2TB external + 256 Samsung M.2
Display(s) Samsung UN65KS8000F 4K, LG 4K 27UD69P-W
Case NZXT - H440
Audio Device(s) XI-FI 8.1
Power Supply EVGA 700W
Mouse Microsoft
Keyboard Microsoft
Software Windows 10 x64
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/njplmm
#2
Assuming you've got your PC connected to the TV of course. Thanks.
It will only work with the 120hz monitor, not with the TV even if its connected to your comp with HDMI.

If you want a solution that works with TV or monitor, LCD OR CRT. then try ED3D glasses. its better than 3D vision which wont work with TV and ED is cheap too.

http://www.ultimate3dheaven.com/edwi3dglforp1.html works GREAT. but if you are using a NVIDIA card, then you cannot use the Free version driver from iz3d. it works GREAT :)
 

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit
Joined
Dec 6, 2007
Messages
14,554 (3.97/day)
Likes
8,061
Location
Quantum Well UK
System Name Quantumville™
Processor Intel Core i7-2700K at stock (hits 5 gees+ easily)
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB (4 x 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz)
Video Card(s) Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Edition
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Green 4TB
Display(s) BenQ XL2720Z | Asus VG278HE (both 27", 144Hz, 3D Vision 2, 1080p)
Case Cooler Master HAF 922
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe
Power Supply Corsair HX 850W v1
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
#3
I've got 3D Vision and can tell you that it works with any 120Hz capable monitor, including CRTs. The 3D effect is very good, too.

I've had a quick look at that alternative system and it doesn't look too hot to me: you're tethered with a wire and the lenses themselves don't seem great. Best to check out a review, if you can. 3D Vision works with just about anything, including old games from the late 90s. :D
 

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit
Joined
Dec 6, 2007
Messages
14,554 (3.97/day)
Likes
8,061
Location
Quantum Well UK
System Name Quantumville™
Processor Intel Core i7-2700K at stock (hits 5 gees+ easily)
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB (4 x 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz)
Video Card(s) Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Edition
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Green 4TB
Display(s) BenQ XL2720Z | Asus VG278HE (both 27", 144Hz, 3D Vision 2, 1080p)
Case Cooler Master HAF 922
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe
Power Supply Corsair HX 850W v1
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
#4
Hmmm.... see what you mean saikamaldoss. The OPs question is confusing refresh rate and TVs.

To runevirage, 3D Vision won't work with a TV, because the TV can only accept a 60Hz signal. However, any monitor that can accept a 120Hz signal will work.

EDIT: Hey why did you delete your second post saikamaldoss? You made a good point and I answered it. Now it just looks like I'm talking to myself. :laugh:
 
Last edited:

Kreij

Senior Monkey Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Feb 6, 2007
Messages
13,817 (3.48/day)
Likes
5,524
Location
Cheeseland (Wisconsin, USA)
Processor Intel Core 2 Quad QX9650 Extreme @ 3.0 GHz
Motherboard Asus Rampage Formula
Cooling ZeroTherm Nirvana NV120 Premium
Memory 8GB (4 x 2GB) Corsair Dominator PC2-8500
Video Card(s) 2 x Sapphire Radeon HD6970
Storage 2 x Seagate Barracuda 320GB in RAID 0
Display(s) Dell 3007WFP 30" LCD (2560 x 1600)
Case Thermaltake Armor w/ 250mm Side Fan
Audio Device(s) SupremeFX 8ch Audio
Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Modular
Software Win8 Pro x64 / Cat 12.10
#5
3D Vision will work with 3D-Ready Televsions, but not just 120Hz TVs.
 

Mussels

Moderprator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
46,119 (9.57/day)
Likes
13,549
Location
Australalalalalaia.
System Name Daddy Long Legs
Processor Ryzen R7 1700, 3.9GHz 1.375v
Motherboard MSI X370 Gaming PRO carbon
Cooling Fractal Celsius S24 (Silent fans, meh pump)
Memory 16GB 2133 generic @ 2800
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (BIOS modded to Gaming Z - faster and solved black screen bugs!)
Storage 1TB Intel SSD Pro 6000p (60TB USB3 storage)
Display(s) Samsung 4K 40" HDTV (UA40KU6000WXXY) / 27" Qnix 2K 110Hz
Case Fractal Design R5. So much room, so quiet...
Audio Device(s) Pioneer VSX-519V + Yamaha YHT-270 / sennheiser HD595/518 + bob marley zion's
Power Supply Corsair HX 750i (Platinum, fan off til 300W)
Mouse Logitech G403 + KKmoon desk-sized mousepad
Keyboard Corsair K65 Rapidfire
Software Windows 10 pro x64 (all systems)
Benchmark Scores Laptops: i7-4510U + 840M 2GB (touchscreen) 275GB SSD + 16GB i7-2630QM + GT 540M + 8GB
#6
the part they're not saying is that 120Hz TV's tend to only have 60Hz inputs - they double the frames internally for a smoother image.

So a 120Hz TV is technically capable of running 3D vision, but you're gunna need a 120Hz input on it (which most wont have)
 

Kreij

Senior Monkey Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Feb 6, 2007
Messages
13,817 (3.48/day)
Likes
5,524
Location
Cheeseland (Wisconsin, USA)
Processor Intel Core 2 Quad QX9650 Extreme @ 3.0 GHz
Motherboard Asus Rampage Formula
Cooling ZeroTherm Nirvana NV120 Premium
Memory 8GB (4 x 2GB) Corsair Dominator PC2-8500
Video Card(s) 2 x Sapphire Radeon HD6970
Storage 2 x Seagate Barracuda 320GB in RAID 0
Display(s) Dell 3007WFP 30" LCD (2560 x 1600)
Case Thermaltake Armor w/ 250mm Side Fan
Audio Device(s) SupremeFX 8ch Audio
Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Modular
Software Win8 Pro x64 / Cat 12.10
#7
I agree, but I was reading that manufacturers are making 3D-Ready TVs that will work with the 3D Vision Kit.
 

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit
Joined
Dec 6, 2007
Messages
14,554 (3.97/day)
Likes
8,061
Location
Quantum Well UK
System Name Quantumville™
Processor Intel Core i7-2700K at stock (hits 5 gees+ easily)
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB (4 x 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz)
Video Card(s) Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Edition
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Green 4TB
Display(s) BenQ XL2720Z | Asus VG278HE (both 27", 144Hz, 3D Vision 2, 1080p)
Case Cooler Master HAF 922
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe
Power Supply Corsair HX 850W v1
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
#8
I agree, but I was reading that manufacturers are making 3D-Ready TVs that will work with the 3D Vision Kit.
All that's required is an input that will accept a 120Hz input. Nothing else matters to make it work.

BTW, with my CRT, I got it working at 144Hz with no problems. The effect was liquid smooth animation, zero flicker and great 3D. :rockout:

Oh and the resolution had to be 800x600 and the picture was a bit blurry. :laugh:
 
Joined
Sep 25, 2007
Messages
5,822 (1.56/day)
Likes
618
Processor Core I7 3770K@4.3Ghz
Motherboard AsRock Z77 Extreme
Cooling Cooler Master Seidon 120M
Memory 12Gb G.Skill Sniper
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1070
Storage Sandisk SSD + 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200
Display(s) IPS Asus 26inch
Case Antec 300
Audio Device(s) Xonar DG
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 650 G2
Software Windows 10/Windows 7
#9
yup they have to be 3d ready, alot of tv's that are supposed to be 120mhz on the market aren't, the makers use a trick to double the refresh rate.
 
Joined
Jan 8, 2009
Messages
436 (0.13/day)
Likes
90
Location
Florida
System Name AMD RyZen PC
Processor AMD RyZen 1800x
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair VI Hero 370x
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 MHz 14C x2
Video Card(s) AMD Radion VEGA 64 / 280x
Storage Seagate 3TB + 2TB + 2TB external + 256 Samsung M.2
Display(s) Samsung UN65KS8000F 4K, LG 4K 27UD69P-W
Case NZXT - H440
Audio Device(s) XI-FI 8.1
Power Supply EVGA 700W
Mouse Microsoft
Keyboard Microsoft
Software Windows 10 x64
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/njplmm
#10
Hmmm.... see what you mean saikamaldoss. The OPs question is confusing refresh rate and TVs.

To runevirage, 3D Vision won't work with a TV, because the TV can only accept a 60Hz signal. However, any monitor that can accept a 120Hz signal will work.

EDIT: Hey why did you delete your second post saikamaldoss? You made a good point and I answered it. Now it just looks like I'm talking to myself. :laugh:
i did not my friend.. i think the ADMIN did for saying it wont work with TV lol.. his question and my answer was tat it wont work with TV :) and the ED have wireless glasses too and they support lots of different technology including 3D vision format. so if you buy ED, u can use them to work with 3D vision and also use it with free 3D movie viewers :)
 
Joined
Jan 8, 2009
Messages
436 (0.13/day)
Likes
90
Location
Florida
System Name AMD RyZen PC
Processor AMD RyZen 1800x
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair VI Hero 370x
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 MHz 14C x2
Video Card(s) AMD Radion VEGA 64 / 280x
Storage Seagate 3TB + 2TB + 2TB external + 256 Samsung M.2
Display(s) Samsung UN65KS8000F 4K, LG 4K 27UD69P-W
Case NZXT - H440
Audio Device(s) XI-FI 8.1
Power Supply EVGA 700W
Mouse Microsoft
Keyboard Microsoft
Software Windows 10 x64
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/njplmm
#11
I agree, but I was reading that manufacturers are making 3D-Ready TVs that will work with the 3D Vision Kit.
it was clear in tech talks that Nvidia is going one way and the rest of the world is going the other way :)

so 3D vision is only for computers with Nvidia card and not for TV and the main reason is that the 3D Tv,s use passive 3D glasses and 3D vision is using Active glasses :)

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1050192/nvidia-picks-the-wrong-3d-glasses-technology
 
Joined
Jan 8, 2009
Messages
436 (0.13/day)
Likes
90
Location
Florida
System Name AMD RyZen PC
Processor AMD RyZen 1800x
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair VI Hero 370x
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 MHz 14C x2
Video Card(s) AMD Radion VEGA 64 / 280x
Storage Seagate 3TB + 2TB + 2TB external + 256 Samsung M.2
Display(s) Samsung UN65KS8000F 4K, LG 4K 27UD69P-W
Case NZXT - H440
Audio Device(s) XI-FI 8.1
Power Supply EVGA 700W
Mouse Microsoft
Keyboard Microsoft
Software Windows 10 x64
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/njplmm
#12
yup they have to be 3d ready, alot of tv's that are supposed to be 120mhz on the market aren't, the makers use a trick to double the refresh rate.
its not trick.. its 2 layers of it with each 60hz
60hz x 2 is 120hz

60hz for left and 60hz for the other

And most are using passive glasses (polarized) just like using 2 projectors. 45/125im and some use active screen with passive glasses.
 

Mussels

Moderprator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
46,119 (9.57/day)
Likes
13,549
Location
Australalalalalaia.
System Name Daddy Long Legs
Processor Ryzen R7 1700, 3.9GHz 1.375v
Motherboard MSI X370 Gaming PRO carbon
Cooling Fractal Celsius S24 (Silent fans, meh pump)
Memory 16GB 2133 generic @ 2800
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (BIOS modded to Gaming Z - faster and solved black screen bugs!)
Storage 1TB Intel SSD Pro 6000p (60TB USB3 storage)
Display(s) Samsung 4K 40" HDTV (UA40KU6000WXXY) / 27" Qnix 2K 110Hz
Case Fractal Design R5. So much room, so quiet...
Audio Device(s) Pioneer VSX-519V + Yamaha YHT-270 / sennheiser HD595/518 + bob marley zion's
Power Supply Corsair HX 750i (Platinum, fan off til 300W)
Mouse Logitech G403 + KKmoon desk-sized mousepad
Keyboard Corsair K65 Rapidfire
Software Windows 10 pro x64 (all systems)
Benchmark Scores Laptops: i7-4510U + 840M 2GB (touchscreen) 275GB SSD + 16GB i7-2630QM + GT 540M + 8GB
#13
its not trick.. its 2 layers of it with each 60hz
60hz x 2 is 120 and they are using passive glasses (polarized)
since you can only feed a 60Hz signal in, it makes no difference as far as 3D is concerned.

Kinda like how my TV supports 5.1 dolby digital when watching TV, but it doesnt support the same from its HDMI inputs
 
Joined
Jan 8, 2009
Messages
436 (0.13/day)
Likes
90
Location
Florida
System Name AMD RyZen PC
Processor AMD RyZen 1800x
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair VI Hero 370x
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 MHz 14C x2
Video Card(s) AMD Radion VEGA 64 / 280x
Storage Seagate 3TB + 2TB + 2TB external + 256 Samsung M.2
Display(s) Samsung UN65KS8000F 4K, LG 4K 27UD69P-W
Case NZXT - H440
Audio Device(s) XI-FI 8.1
Power Supply EVGA 700W
Mouse Microsoft
Keyboard Microsoft
Software Windows 10 x64
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/njplmm
#14
since you can only feed a 60Hz signal in, it makes no difference as far as 3D is concerned.

Kinda like how my TV supports 5.1 dolby digital when watching TV, but it doesnt support the same from its HDMI inputs
And the TV uses Visa 1997 3D port :) and it wont work with 3D vision.

I hope now its clear :)
 
Joined
Sep 11, 2009
Messages
2,680 (0.89/day)
Likes
693
Location
Reaching your left retina.
#15
It will only work with the 120hz monitor, not with the TV even if its connected to your comp with HDMI.

If you want a solution that works with TV or monitor, LCD OR CRT. then try ED3D glasses. its better than 3D vision which wont work with TV and ED is cheap too.

http://www.ultimate3dheaven.com/edwi3dglforp1.html works GREAT. but if you are using a NVIDIA card, then you cannot use the Free version driver from iz3d. it works GREAT :)
I have those ED glasses, I've been using them for years and although they are by far the best 3D shutter glasses that I've owned (big fan of Stereo3D here), I can too tell you that Nvidia's glasses are far better. I'm never gonna buy them, since they cost an arm and a leg, but they are far better: much less ghosting, flickering, gamma loss, etc.

They are a good cheaper alternative though, don't get me wrong, as I said I'm using them and love it and with some games the experience is amazing. You can even reduce ghosting and flickering to almost non-existent with a lot of tunning. Regardless, give credit where credit is due: Nvidia's setup is much better (especially on default, before massive amounts of tunning), at a much higher cost.
 
Joined
Jan 8, 2009
Messages
436 (0.13/day)
Likes
90
Location
Florida
System Name AMD RyZen PC
Processor AMD RyZen 1800x
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair VI Hero 370x
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 MHz 14C x2
Video Card(s) AMD Radion VEGA 64 / 280x
Storage Seagate 3TB + 2TB + 2TB external + 256 Samsung M.2
Display(s) Samsung UN65KS8000F 4K, LG 4K 27UD69P-W
Case NZXT - H440
Audio Device(s) XI-FI 8.1
Power Supply EVGA 700W
Mouse Microsoft
Keyboard Microsoft
Software Windows 10 x64
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/njplmm
#16
I have those ED glasses, I've been using them for years and although they are by far the best 3D shutter glasses that I've owned (big fan of Stereo3D here), I can too tell you that Nvidia's glasses are far better. I'm never gonna buy them, since they cost an arm and a leg, but they are far better: much less ghosting, flickering, gamma loss, etc.

They are a good cheaper alternative though, don't get me wrong, as I said I'm using them and love it and with some games the experience is amazing. You can even reduce ghosting and flickering to almost non-existent with a lot of tunning. Regardless, give credit where credit is due: Nvidia's setup is much better (especially on default, before massive amounts of tunning), at a much higher cost.
ya you are correct. but you missed something big :)

ghosting, flickering is because of hz.. try you ED with a 120hz monitor and you will not have that problem and you feel 3D vision is better because you tried the 3d vision on a 120hz mon.. :) i tried both and if you tune ED.. ED wins and it works with everygame.. just that you need to add the game to the PROFILE :)

any way.. its again like ATI vs Nvidia.. simple as that :) when it comes to 3D

ED is like ATI. Cheap and best.. and the best part is that you can use the iz3D beta driver for DX10 and 11 support :)
 
Joined
Sep 11, 2009
Messages
2,680 (0.89/day)
Likes
693
Location
Reaching your left retina.
#17
ya you are correct. but you missed something big :)

ghosting, flickering is because of hz.. try you ED with a 120hz monitor and you will not have that problem and you feel 3D vision is better because you tried the 3d vision on a 120hz mon.. :) i tried both and if you tune ED.. ED wins and it works with everygame.. just that you need to add the game to the PROFILE :)

any way.. its again like ATI vs Nvidia.. simple as that :) when it comes to 3D

ED is like ATI. Cheap and best.. and the best part is that you can use the iz3D beta driver for DX10 and 11 support :)
HAHA No I used them on a CRT, I told you I've been gaming on S3D for years (maybe even since it was a new thing), how the hell can you assume I'm playing at 60hz? lol I still use a CRT for that reason alone. I even tried my ED glasses on 150 Hz and 3DVision still looks better. But I have not a lot of experience with 3D Vision anyway. Maybe the 5 games that I have seen for 3D Vsion on a booth were selected games that look much better than the average game, but those definately looked better than anything with my glasses. Average game review on MTBS3D.com also says 3D Vision is better, but yeah it also depends on the game.

And I agree, in a perf/price basis ED glasses do win, but pure quality IMO 3DVision or otherwise IZ3D monitor win hands down. Both super expensive, of course.

One thing to consider is that most S3D solutions, mainly shutter glasses, need a lot of tweaking to make them look good, a bad thing for the initiated. You have to love S3D or you are going to be dissapointed the first time you try them. It has happened to many of my friends, they would love it when they came home, but when I lend them my setup and they tried it at home, they didn't like it. The good thing about, both IZ3D monitor and 3DVision is that they work very well without any tweaking, probably because they work closely with game developers, but it's still better anyway.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jan 8, 2009
Messages
436 (0.13/day)
Likes
90
Location
Florida
System Name AMD RyZen PC
Processor AMD RyZen 1800x
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair VI Hero 370x
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 MHz 14C x2
Video Card(s) AMD Radion VEGA 64 / 280x
Storage Seagate 3TB + 2TB + 2TB external + 256 Samsung M.2
Display(s) Samsung UN65KS8000F 4K, LG 4K 27UD69P-W
Case NZXT - H440
Audio Device(s) XI-FI 8.1
Power Supply EVGA 700W
Mouse Microsoft
Keyboard Microsoft
Software Windows 10 x64
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/njplmm
#18
HAHA No I used them on a CRT, I told you I've been gaming on S3D for years (maybe even since it was a new thing), how the hell can you assume I'm playing at 60hz? lol I still use a CRT for that reason alone. I even tried my ED glasses on 150 Hz and 3DVision still looks better. But I have not a lot of experience with 3D Vision anyway. Maybe the 5 games that I have seen for 3D Vsion on a booth were selected games that look much better than the average game, but those definately looked better than anything with my glasses. Average game review on MTBS3D.com also says 3D Vision is better, but yeah it also depends on the game.
Ah there you go :) so u have a CRT but what FPS do you get when u play on your PC ?? and Nv 3D vision on the booth should have had a powerful PC that can give more than 120FPS as well. coz on my ED i do notice that it flicks when the game FPS goes down below 60 :)

So again its all about the hz and FPS :) so if you compare Apple to apple.. then ED will win. the only trouble is tweaking it.. :)

but once you tune, u can have that settings backed up and can use it when ever you play :)

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/01/05/bit-cauldron-has-standard-3d-glasses/
 
Last edited:
Joined
Sep 11, 2009
Messages
2,680 (0.89/day)
Likes
693
Location
Reaching your left retina.
#19
No. It's just that the syncing is so much better over the USB than over VGA dongle. Look, I've told you I've been this for years, don't pretend that you know more than I do or at least not with such well known arguments. I've discarded all of them. I'm not stupid, I'm not a child and you are acting as if I was one. I know how it works, thank you very much, I don't need anyone teching me. :)

EDIT: And SemiAccurate? Really? Don't tell me that Charlie Demerjian thinks that 3d Vision, something Nvidia made, is shit. No freaking way! :eek: :laugh:
 
Joined
Apr 9, 2010
Messages
62 (0.02/day)
Likes
3
Location
Somewhere in California...
System Name The Green Fox
Processor Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.0GHz (100MHz x 40)
Motherboard Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3
Cooling XSPC RASA 750 RS360
Memory 16GB (4x4GB) of G.Skill Sniper Series DDR3 1600 Gaming Memory
Video Card(s) 2X Sapphire Radeon HD 6950s running in Crossfire
Storage Two 60GB OCZ Solid III SSDs in RAID 0, and Two Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM HDDs (one 750GB drive, and
Display(s) 2X Sceptre X226W-1920 22" Monitors
Case Cooler Master HAF-X
Audio Device(s) ASUS Xonar Essence STX
Power Supply Sunbeam 750 Watt 80 Plus Power Supply
Software Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP1
#20
I don't believe so. You gotta buy those over priced 3D monitors and those 3D glasses.

Personally, I think those glasses make you look like a tool. Just my opinion...
 

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit
Joined
Dec 6, 2007
Messages
14,554 (3.97/day)
Likes
8,061
Location
Quantum Well UK
System Name Quantumville™
Processor Intel Core i7-2700K at stock (hits 5 gees+ easily)
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB (4 x 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz)
Video Card(s) Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Edition
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Green 4TB
Display(s) BenQ XL2720Z | Asus VG278HE (both 27", 144Hz, 3D Vision 2, 1080p)
Case Cooler Master HAF 922
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe
Power Supply Corsair HX 850W v1
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
#21
EDIT: And SemiAccurate? Really? Don't tell me that Charlie Demerjian thinks that 3d Vision, something Nvidia made, is shit. No freaking way! :eek: :laugh:
That one reminds me: I normally defend CD, as he's pretty on the ball with his predictions and general analysis.

BUT

I remember him predicting that 3D Vision would be crap and flaming about it on The Inquirer a couple of years ago. Then he actually tried it out at a trade show and revised his opinion, saying he thought it was pretty good on a follow-up Inquirer article, which seemed fair and objective. However, he recently (as in within the last 3 or 4 months) posted an article on SemiAccurate, saying 3D Vision was crap and linked to that first article only, conveniently forgetting about the second one...

That looks like a case of obvious bias to me. What a douche. :rolleyes: :nutkick: After this, I still think his reporting is generally accurate, but I read it with a good seasoning of salt now.

I'm sorry that I don't have links to these; it's all from memory.
 
Joined
Jan 8, 2009
Messages
436 (0.13/day)
Likes
90
Location
Florida
System Name AMD RyZen PC
Processor AMD RyZen 1800x
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair VI Hero 370x
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 MHz 14C x2
Video Card(s) AMD Radion VEGA 64 / 280x
Storage Seagate 3TB + 2TB + 2TB external + 256 Samsung M.2
Display(s) Samsung UN65KS8000F 4K, LG 4K 27UD69P-W
Case NZXT - H440
Audio Device(s) XI-FI 8.1
Power Supply EVGA 700W
Mouse Microsoft
Keyboard Microsoft
Software Windows 10 x64
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/njplmm
#22
No. It's just that the syncing is so much better over the USB than over VGA dongle. Look, I've told you I've been this for years, don't pretend that you know more than I do or at least not with such well known arguments. I've discarded all of them. I'm not stupid, I'm not a child and you are acting as if I was one. I know how it works, thank you very much, I don't need anyone teching me. :)

EDIT: And SemiAccurate? Really? Don't tell me that Charlie Demerjian thinks that 3d Vision, something Nvidia made, is shit. No freaking way! :eek: :laugh:
lol ok man.. dont cry.. :laugh:

What do you want me to say ?? Nvidia is the best ??

ok ok... Nvidia is the best, GTX480 is the coolest and Avatar 3D is nothing in front of 3D vision :)

Happy now ??? :D

Cool man.. Nvidia Rocks :banghead:
 
Joined
Sep 11, 2009
Messages
2,680 (0.89/day)
Likes
693
Location
Reaching your left retina.
#23
That one reminds me: I normally defend CD, as he's pretty on the ball with his predictions and general analysis.

BUT

I remember him predicting that 3D Vision would be crap and flaming about it on The Inquirer a couple of years ago. Then he actually tried it out at a trade show and revised his opinion, saying he thought it was pretty good on a follow-up Inquirer article, which seemed fair and objective. However, he recently (as in within the last 3 or 4 months) posted an article on SemiAccurate, saying 3D Vision was crap and linked to that first article only, conveniently forgetting about the second one...

That looks like a case of obvious bias to me. What a douche. :rolleyes: :nutkick: After this, I still think his reporting is generally accurate, but I read it with a good seasoning of salt now.

I'm sorry that I don't have links to these; it's all from memory.
He does that with everything or almost everything, that's why I don't believe anything he says. i.e probably the most obvious case was the 8800GTX (not having unified shaders, being DX9, 48 pixel shaders/8 vertex), but it has happened with Fermi too (although he was semi-accurate on some things). i.e Where's the article (or wathever) where he admits he was wrong about Fermi not having fixed function units? where the one about not having a tesselator?

Where the one where he admits he was wrong about Nvidia preventing Lucid Hydra from releasing/working? Etc, etc, etc. It's very easy to "be always right" if you only post links to the articles wwere you were "right". But I have memory, so he can not fool me.

lol ok man.. dont cry.. :laugh:

What do you want me to say ?? Nvidia is the best ??

ok ok... Nvidia is the best, GTX480 is the coolest and Avatar 3D is nothing in front of 3D vision :)

Happy now ??? :D

Cool man.. Nvidia Rocks :banghead:
lol. Like I said, give credit where credit is due. I told you that I don't have 3D Vision nor I will ever have (unless it comes down in price a lot) and that I do have ED shutter glasses and use them a lot. There's nothing I would like more than saying ED glasses are the best thing, but they're not. 3D Vision is better and IMO IZ3D monitor is even better (for S3D, sadly for the rest is meh, at best). So pack your opinions regarding me and tell your opinion on the subject.

EDIT: BTW. Why is it that every time that someone is talking about 3D Vision, PhysX or any particular feature, an Ati card owner has to finish saying something like "What do you want me to say ?? Nvidia is the best ??" Where did I mention Nvidia at all? Is Nvidia the best? IMO arguably not, but one particular product can certainly be. Stupid fanboys.
 
Last edited:

Kreij

Senior Monkey Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Feb 6, 2007
Messages
13,817 (3.48/day)
Likes
5,524
Location
Cheeseland (Wisconsin, USA)
Processor Intel Core 2 Quad QX9650 Extreme @ 3.0 GHz
Motherboard Asus Rampage Formula
Cooling ZeroTherm Nirvana NV120 Premium
Memory 8GB (4 x 2GB) Corsair Dominator PC2-8500
Video Card(s) 2 x Sapphire Radeon HD6970
Storage 2 x Seagate Barracuda 320GB in RAID 0
Display(s) Dell 3007WFP 30" LCD (2560 x 1600)
Case Thermaltake Armor w/ 250mm Side Fan
Audio Device(s) SupremeFX 8ch Audio
Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Modular
Software Win8 Pro x64 / Cat 12.10
#24
i did not my friend.. i think the ADMIN did for saying it wont work with TV lol..
Your post was deleted because you reported your own post.
We assumed you wanted it gone. :)
 

Mussels

Moderprator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
46,119 (9.57/day)
Likes
13,549
Location
Australalalalalaia.
System Name Daddy Long Legs
Processor Ryzen R7 1700, 3.9GHz 1.375v
Motherboard MSI X370 Gaming PRO carbon
Cooling Fractal Celsius S24 (Silent fans, meh pump)
Memory 16GB 2133 generic @ 2800
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (BIOS modded to Gaming Z - faster and solved black screen bugs!)
Storage 1TB Intel SSD Pro 6000p (60TB USB3 storage)
Display(s) Samsung 4K 40" HDTV (UA40KU6000WXXY) / 27" Qnix 2K 110Hz
Case Fractal Design R5. So much room, so quiet...
Audio Device(s) Pioneer VSX-519V + Yamaha YHT-270 / sennheiser HD595/518 + bob marley zion's
Power Supply Corsair HX 750i (Platinum, fan off til 300W)
Mouse Logitech G403 + KKmoon desk-sized mousepad
Keyboard Corsair K65 Rapidfire
Software Windows 10 pro x64 (all systems)
Benchmark Scores Laptops: i7-4510U + 840M 2GB (touchscreen) 275GB SSD + 16GB i7-2630QM + GT 540M + 8GB
#25
i beleive the report said "blah blah blah" it was kind of vague.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.