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Uhh yeah by when I'm able to come by my friends house again I think it's time to poke these two batteries... As seen below. Batteries should be a stable string... Not like all over the place

Battery company Wubatec = WTH

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OK guy's I have odd problems but not like I'm going to go back. I have the v20 now and we had replaced the frame (we bought the frame with a screen) and switched several parts over. The phone works but finger print does not work as at should and the knock feature does not work completely. Is it the screen or...

The finger print works but only when screen is on

Like the second screen does not come on when I have the main screen off but only at times and when it I just slightly bang on the phone or just plop it on my bed and it's on. Odd yeah?
 
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My Perfine 6000mah was 7 SOT with 47hr total usage YAY!

Now charging the battery with the Battery Charger through its micro USB connector

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All bow down to Company Perfine

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LG phones had the worst QC in the industry.
GPS not connecting, capacitive navigation buttons stopped working, chargers failing, overheating and lowering screen brightness, unstable and too slow software, software update being close to non existent, boot loop and motherboard issues, .............. the list goes on forever.

Their TVs are even worse.
 
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LG phones had the worst QC in the industry.
GPS not connecting, capacitive navigation buttons stopped working, chargers failing, overheating and lowering screen brightness, unstable and too slow software, software update being close to non existent, boot loop and motherboard issues, .............. the list goes on forever.

Their TVs are even worse.

Shame LG make the best panels
 
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Yes I do agree with you whole hardware defects etc.

Perfine battery @6000mah company is king

 
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Ha I'm running the battery on the battery saver mode to see how long my battery will last this time lol
 
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LG phones had the worst QC in the industry.
GPS not connecting, capacitive navigation buttons stopped working, chargers failing, overheating and lowering screen brightness, unstable and too slow software, software update being close to non existent, boot loop and motherboard issues, .............. the list goes on forever.

Their TVs are even worse.

Meme SKUs were an even bigger problem. I have an LG K10 here that used to be Dad's, this specific phone had like 10+ subvariants with wildly different configurations across two different processor platforms, the one I have is an K430TV that was abandoned on Marshmallow because... it's a 1.3GHz Memetek (from Mediatek's darkest days) with a whopper of 1 GB of RAM that was already considered inadequate back in KitKat days. You can't do basic things like opening a calculator with Spotify open in the background without the operating system killing Spotify to free RAM for the calculator.

Honestly I'm sure LG had some great high end phones later on, but their mistakes in the budding years of modern smartphones really cost them their business
 
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Aww those days companies tried using the mk MT6580. Was a quad core, had good battery saver but the performance was the worst. Now in days mk is good
 
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Meme SKUs were an even bigger problem. I have an LG K10 here that used to be Dad's, this specific phone had like 10+ subvariants with wildly different configurations across two different processor platforms, the one I have is an K430TV that was abandoned on Marshmallow because... it's a 1.3GHz Memetek (from Mediatek's darkest days) with a whopper of 1 GB of RAM that was already considered inadequate back in KitKat days. You can't do basic things like opening a calculator with Spotify open in the background without the operating system killing Spotify to free RAM for the calculator.

Honestly I'm sure LG had some great high end phones later on, but their mistakes in the budding years of modern smartphones really cost them their business
Samsung right now be like:
s21
s21+ 5G
s21 ultra 5G
s21FE 5G
 
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Samsung right now be like:
s21
s21+ 5G
s21 ultra 5G
s21FE 5G

Agreed, Samsuck is guilty as charged, not to mention each of these also have subvariants with their in house Exynos processor and the Snapdragon, both with wildly different performance level as well... then you get us 5 models with 3 subvariants each, and they have the gall to tell us that it's hard to support a 3 year old phone. My 2019 S10+ (Exy 9820) is meeting its end in the same year my father's 2015 iPhone 6S, and the 6S's software is in far better shape. It even runs my favorite mobile game (NieR Re[in]carnation) better than my phone, which is preposterous. A Galaxy S6 is a worthless phone today, it's beyond obsolete, extremely insecure and practically unusable, yet the iPhone kept trucking on.
 
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Agreed, Samsuck is guilty as charged, not to mention each of these also have subvariants with their in house Exynos processor and the Snapdragon, both with wildly different performance level as well... then you get us 5 models with 3 subvariants each, and they have the gall to tell us that it's hard to support a 3 year old phone. My 2019 S10+ (Exy 9820) is meeting its end in the same year my father's 2015 iPhone 6S, and the 6S's software is in far better shape. It even runs my favorite mobile game (NieR Re[in]carnation) better than my phone, which is preposterous. A Galaxy S6 is a worthless phone today, it's beyond obsolete, extremely insecure and practically unusable, yet the iPhone kept trucking on.
Meanwhile apple:
- iPhone 13 mini
- iPhone 13
- iPhone 13 pro
- iPhone 13 pro max

legit whole industry at this point what are you saying
 
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Meanwhile apple:
- iPhone 13 mini
- iPhone 13
- iPhone 13 pro
- iPhone 13 pro max

legit whole industry at this point what are you saying

Hardly comparable. The only differences between the iPhone 13 mini and the iPhone 13 are the battery and screen size, all of these use the exact same A15 Bionic processor, same modem, same memory, same connectivity, same everything. The iPhone 13 Pro has a different screen technology and different camera hardware, with more sensors and LiDAR support. It also uses a different version of the A15 SoC that has an extra GPU core enabled. The Max is just a bigger version of the Pro, same way the 13 and 13 mini stack against each other - to that extent, it's another product entirely. Same if you compared the Galaxy S10e to the Galaxy S10+, they're different phones.

There is also the third generation iPhone SE - that simply reuses the 2017 iPhone 8 platform but updating it with the same A15 processor and qualcomm 5G modem used on the iPhone 13. Since between all of these the SoC is the same, the amount of memory is the same and the performance is the same, maintenance is extremely easy and streamlined.

It is not the case with LG's K10 or the Samsung Galaxy S flagships, which have two entirely different SoC families sources from two entirely different foundries, using entirely different modems, memory capacities and types, different GPUs, different everything... this kind of fragmentation simply does not occur in Apple's ecosystem due to vertical integration and the fact they exclusively use in-house silicon and their own operating system.

Android is terribly fragmented on its own, but with manufacturers creating entirely different devices on entirely different platforms and selling them as the same product creates a major cohesion problem. The LG K10 I mentioned earlier had an incredible amount of variants, with MTK and Qualcomm, as well as 1, 1.5 and 2 GB variants, single and dual SIM variants, with wildly different performance figures and an US exclusive version that received Nougat while everyone else languishes to this day on Marshmallow - this kind of brutal fragmentation is expensive to upkeep, especially to an embattled company like LG. No wonder their phone division went under. Another embattled Android manufacturer was Sony, which made great devices, but couldn't sell them enough due to high costs and their extremely poor track record in maintaining their devices' software. End of the day they folded their business from practically the entire world and only sell in the US and select EU markets nowadays.

Meanwhile if you bought an iPhone 6s in 2015, this is the first year you won't receive a major iOS update. Seven years later. Good luck getting Samsung to do anything to support an equally pricy S6 Edge ;)
 
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Hardly comparable. The only differences between the iPhone 13 mini and the iPhone 13 are the battery and screen size, all of these use the exact same A15 Bionic processor, same modem, same memory, same connectivity, same everything. The iPhone 13 Pro has a different screen technology and different camera hardware, with more sensors and LiDAR support. It also uses a different version of the A15 SoC that has an extra GPU core enabled. The Max is just a bigger version of the Pro, same way the 13 and 13 mini stack against each other - to that extent, it's another product entirely. Same if you compared the Galaxy S10e to the Galaxy S10+, they're different phones.

There is also the third generation iPhone SE - that simply reuses the 2017 iPhone 8 platform but updating it with the same A15 processor and qualcomm 5G modem used on the iPhone 13. Since between all of these the SoC is the same, the amount of memory is the same and the performance is the same, maintenance is extremely easy and streamlined.

It is not the case with LG's K10 or the Samsung Galaxy S flagships, which have two entirely different SoC families sources from two entirely different foundries, using entirely different modems, memory capacities and types, different GPUs, different everything... this kind of fragmentation simply does not occur in Apple's ecosystem due to vertical integration and the fact they exclusively use in-house silicon and their own operating system.

Android is terribly fragmented on its own, but with manufacturers creating entirely different devices on entirely different platforms and selling them as the same product creates a major cohesion problem. The LG K10 I mentioned earlier had an incredible amount of variants, with MTK and Qualcomm, as well as 1, 1.5 and 2 GB variants, single and dual SIM variants, with wildly different performance figures and an US exclusive version that received Nougat while everyone else languishes to this day on Marshmallow - this kind of brutal fragmentation is expensive to upkeep, especially to an embattled company like LG. No wonder their phone division went under. Another embattled Android manufacturer was Sony, which made great devices, but couldn't sell them enough due to high costs and their extremely poor track record in maintaining their devices' software. End of the day they folded their business from practically the entire world and only sell in the US and select EU markets nowadays.

Meanwhile if you bought an iPhone 6s in 2015, this is the first year you won't receive a major iOS update. Seven years later. Good luck getting Samsung to do anything to support an equally pricy S6 Edge ;)
I mostly agree with your arguments, but this wasn't the only reason they went under.
Most people don't need 6 years of software support. I got my phone updated from android 9 to 12 and I see no major improvements. TBH for most people as long as they can communicate using Whatsapp, Facebook, web browsing ... they are good. No need to run the latest version of Android.

A good thing to remember is that an average Joe breaks his screen in the first two years anyway and ruin his battery even sooner. So Samsung and other players are not stupid They know smartphones are mostly terribly cared for and they use this fact to sell more and they do not waste their time and resources on supporting older phones.
 
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Meanwhile if you bought an iPhone 6s in 2015, this is the first year you won't receive a major iOS update.
TTBH. I’m still running an iPhone SE (6s or something like that internals iirc), because if a tool still works, why would I replace it.
 
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I mostly agree with your arguments, but this wasn't the only reason they went under.
Most people don't need 6 years of software support. I got my phone updated from android 9 to 12 and I see no major improvements. TBH for most people as long as they can communicate using Whatsapp, Facebook, web browsing ... they are good. No need to run the latest version of Android.

A good thing to remember is that an average Joe breaks his screen in the first two years anyway and ruin his battery even sooner. So Samsung and other players are not stupid They know smartphones are mostly terribly cared for and they use this fact to sell more and they do not waste their time and resources on supporting older phones.

I take good care of my phones in general, I've heavily used my 1st gen SE and by the time I passed it on, it didn't have a single scratch in it. I'm inclined to disagree that Android updates aren't necessary - most relevant features, performance and security updates only come with major Android builds. I find the double standard quite entertaining really, usually the exact same people who bash Apple for providing such lengthy and concise support to their devices are the exact same people who will gloat about <insert insanely obsolete Android phone here> running a preview version of <insert futuristic version of Android here> because <insert popular ROM from xda here> made this "wonder" possible, relying on software like Magisk in an attempt to circumvent Safetynet, root detection and the sort to get a more or less updated device.

That's overlooking the fact that this usually comes at the blood price of having a permanently untrustable device should you ever decide to reverse course, since mostly every phone these days use eFuse technology to denounce if someone ever loaded unauthorized software in them. A Knox trip due to loading an unsigned binary on a Galaxy device is unrecoverable and unrepairable without a full motherboard swap; even if you reflash the official binary, anything that depends on advanced security will no longer work. Google's policy demanded 18 months of support for a device, and there have been cases (cough Sony cough) where phones went their entire supported lifespan without receiving an Android update.

Like I mentioned earlier even a Galaxy S9+ is an EOL device on an obsolete version of Android more than exhibiting its age over multiple applications (and God help you never need hardware repairs), an iPhone Xs is by all ways and means a current, relatively high-performance device. It's not even any use arguing, my S10+ has severe frame rate problems with newer games and the battery life is extremely poor these days. Which kind of makes me a member of the following camp:

TTBH. I’m still running an iPhone SE (6s or something like that internals iirc), because if a tool still works, why would I replace it.

I only replaced my 1st gen SE (bless that wonderful little phone, I wish the 3rd gen SE kept the A15 but into the 5S platform and I would so buy it) because I actually replaced the battery three times and I kinda got bored of getting it repeatedly serviced, but it's easily my all time favorite phone. I really had no plans on replacing my S10+ but with the battery problems, lack of future maintenance (as Samsung denied it their new update roadmap promises), I'm just running it to the bone and when it doesn't suit me anymore, i'll grab a 3rd gen SE or a 13 mini, maybe a 14 mini if they make those, idk.
 
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VR HMD Oculus rift
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506
Well necroed.

I had forgotten again.
 
Joined
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Messages
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System Name BoX-Server | 775PC
Processor I3 3.5GHZ (3150) | Modded Xeon E5450 (OC @3.60)
Motherboard ASRock B85M-ITX | ASUS P5Q-EM
Cooling OEZM HSK | 92MM Heatsink RGB
Memory 8GB DDR3 | 8GB DDR2
Video Card(s) AMD 6450 | Onboard
Storage 120GB SSD 1TB WD | 120GB SSD 1TB Seagate 500GB HDD <<
Display(s) DELL 17" LCD 1280x1024 | ASUS 24" LCD IPS
Case CoolerMaster 110 | RoseWill ZIRCON
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Rosewill 610WATT | Rosewill 550WATT
Mouse Input-Director| RoseWill FUSION C40
Keyboard Input-Director | RoseWill FUSION
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
I have moved on sadly. I now own a Samsung Galaxy A53 G5 but I still have the LG V20 though
 
Joined
Nov 28, 2012
Messages
2,528 (0.69/day)
System Name BoX-Server | 775PC
Processor I3 3.5GHZ (3150) | Modded Xeon E5450 (OC @3.60)
Motherboard ASRock B85M-ITX | ASUS P5Q-EM
Cooling OEZM HSK | 92MM Heatsink RGB
Memory 8GB DDR3 | 8GB DDR2
Video Card(s) AMD 6450 | Onboard
Storage 120GB SSD 1TB WD | 120GB SSD 1TB Seagate 500GB HDD <<
Display(s) DELL 17" LCD 1280x1024 | ASUS 24" LCD IPS
Case CoolerMaster 110 | RoseWill ZIRCON
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Rosewill 610WATT | Rosewill 550WATT
Mouse Input-Director| RoseWill FUSION C40
Keyboard Input-Director | RoseWill FUSION
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Still Going... an Going.... [Perfine 10k mAH]

Have Battery Saver on

Next Test try Daily

 
Joined
Dec 25, 2020
Messages
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Location
São Paulo, Brazil
System Name Project Kairi
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor (B0)
Motherboard ASUS ROG STRIX B550-E (AGESA 1.2.0.3 C)
Cooling id-Cooling Frostflow X 360 + Gelid GC-Extreme
Memory 64 GB (4x 16) Corsair Dominator Platinum ROG DDR4-3600 @ 16-17-16-34-1 1.375V
Video Card(s) ASUS TUF Gaming OC GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB GDDR6X
Storage WD Green SN350 480 GB (x 2)
Display(s) Samsung The Frame 2022 32-inch (1080p60)
Case Cooler Master MasterFrame 700
Audio Device(s) EVGA Nu Audio (classic) + KZ ZSN Pro IEMs
Power Supply EVGA 1300 G2 1.3kW 80+ Gold
Mouse Logitech G305 Lightspeed K/DA + Logitech G840 XL K/DA
Keyboard Logitech G Pro K/DA with GX Brown switches
Software Windows 11 Pro for Workstations 22H2 / Nobara 36
Benchmark Scores Build pic: https://i.imgur.com/yxc0HrZ.jpg
Still Going... an Going.... [Perfine 10k mAH]

Have Battery Saver on

Next Test try Daily​

Pffft, try 3 hours while plugged in like my Galaxy S10+ is doing these days.

Screenshot_20220626-010608_AccuBattery.jpg


This phone is 3 years old and basically unusable at this point, unless I am very stingy with networking, disable 4G/LTE, reduce screen resolution, brightness and use it very sparingly, so I can get like 4-5 hours out of it. It sucks, even to use it as a mobile game looper (which is what it was doing at the time) with an autoclicker it needs to be plugged to a fast charger :kookoo:
 
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Location
Connecticut
System Name Toaster
Processor AMD Athlon X4 750K
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-D3H
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212+
Memory 16GB DDR3 1333MHz
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GT 1030 2GB GDDR5
Storage Samsung EVO 250GB & Kingston SSDNow V+ 512GB
Display(s) Dell P2214H
Case Old beige box originally housed a socket 478 system
Power Supply Seasonic S12II-620 Bronze
Mouse The best Logitech mouse $8 can buy
Keyboard Redragon K552N
I'm still daily driving my LG Leon from 2015. The battery lasts about 24 hours assuming I don't actively use it, which I normally don't (it just sits in my pocket waiting for text messages). I never have WiFi enabled because the phone becomes sluggish when I do. I've switched from Chrome to Via because Via is a little less resource-intensive which is important on a device with 1GB of RAM. No matter what browser I use however I'm essentially limited to 1 webpage at a time thanks to that RAM constraint. The 5MP camera is a smudgy smeary mess of pixels. The 'flashlight' is dimmer than modern phone screens. In a word it is awful however.. it keeps turning on and it keeps receiving text messages and it keeps receiving phone calls and it only has a 4.5'' screen so it's extremely pocketable. I'll toss it sooner or later but for now, it works.
 
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System Name Top Secret
Processor Ryzen 5 1600 AF (aka 2600 lite/Zen+)
Motherboard Biostar "Racing" X470GTQ (great except for X470 part)
Cooling Noctua NH-L9a-AM4
Memory Crucial (Micron) 16 GB DDR4-3200
Video Card(s) low-end (AMD Radeon) Polaris card
Storage HGST/Hitachi UltraStar 7K3000 2 TB | 128 GB Toshiba used OEM M.2 SATA SSD (OS drive)
Display(s) Iiyama ProLite XB2483HSU (still going after 8 years)
Case Fractal Design Define Mini C (wish I had bought something else...)
Audio Device(s) ALC887 -> JDS Labs Atom (headphone) amp -> Panasonic RP-HT770
Power Supply Seasonic Focus Gold 550W (GX-550)
Mouse Steelseries Rival 310
Keyboard Cherry G84-5200
Software Debian Linux (cannot imagine having to deal with Windows 10)
Benchmark Scores 179 Mbps max speed achieved on 5 GHz @ about 20 ft from router with the AR9462 in my 645 G1 :)
I will never forget having to put multiple of their phones and multiple Nexuses on my personal blacklist due to widespread bootloop issues.
 
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