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I'm curious to see how they manage differential updates on some systems where there may be compromised system files and if update will just fix those files now (a la SFC/DISM) while doing their in-place update...er...grades. :D

Good to see them reducing the size of updates! I hope this trickles down to the other OSes using the cumulative update system too...
 

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I do not like Windows 10. It has no good visual to start with. If you can get anything out of it, Windows 7 looks more attractive right off the install.

Can't say I agree with that at all, managing systems that still use XP, all the way up to 10...I feel 10 looks great, 7 looks aged and Vista while aged looks best. But we all have our opinions. ;)

This thread is about downloading and using 10, not what your opinions of it are though...there is another thread on this forum for that and I strongly urge you to check it out.
 
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Download CU KB 3200970 x64 for Windows 10 1607 (871 MB), brings system to 14393.447

The update includes some security fixes for Microsoft Edge, Windows File Manager, Boot Manager
 
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I'm curious to see how they manage differential updates on some systems where there may be compromised system files and if update will just fix those files now (a la SFC/DISM) while doing their in-place update...er...grades. :D

Good to see them reducing the size of updates! I hope this trickles down to the other OSes using the cumulative update system too...

SFC/DISM are totally stupid. Since Windows 8.x it basically never fixes anything even when files are clearly corrupted. It just whines about corrupted files but could never fix them.
 

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RejZoR said:
SFC/DISM are totally stupid. Since Windows 8.x it basically never fixes anything even when files are clearly corrupted. It just whines about corrupted files but could never fix them.

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Dude, please stop bashing things you don't fully understand.

SFC is the first step, System File Checker. That can fix many issues using various flags and knowing the context, and is a first step when there is doubt about system integrity. This is a simple utility and using SFC /Scannow will be the most commonly used flagged command for initial repair diagnostics. Takes a few minutes and is worth doing to resolve issues. While it can repair many issues, there's also many it cannot. That's where the next step comes in should you need it.

DISM, or Deployment Image Servicing and Management, is the big gorilla in Windows OSes for repairs and image management. It has a wide variety of uses from image capture and deploy to repair.

The common command for DISM was DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth,

Just running this can result in a system being repaired, but since the launch of Windows 10, the image check has become more complicated, requiring you have the Install.WIM file available for the OS version you're trying to repair. This is relatively, though with Microsoft's deployment of Windows 10, most ISO's you get from them have an Install.ESD that must be converted to a .WIM file. Pretty easy to do with a command in CLI or Powershell.

I typed up an article about this in the past...I'll go ahead and share it here for a series of steps a person could take to repair OS corruptions in Windows 8, 8.1 and 10. It's not hard to do, but takes some attention to detail, being able to handle command line (which is easy), and a little patience.

Windows 8, 8.1, 10 - CLI System Image Repair

There are many times where you will need to verify an operating system's integrity. This article aims to assist with that using several items and becoming familiar with CLI (Command Line Interface). Before doing anything in this article, please backu

1. First order of business is to verify if the system hard drive has issues. Gain access to CMD, either from right clicking the start area and opening with administrative privileges or searching CMD.exe and running as administrator. CMD must be ran with elevated privileges as repairs are system changes that are otherwise not allowed.
  • Once open type the following command to verify basic hard disk drive integrity - CHKDSK
  • If errors come back, the OS needs to be taken offline and the entire drive more thoroughly scanned during a reboot, you can type in this: CHKDSK /R /F
  • You will then be prompted to schedule the disk check at next reboot since the drive you want to repair is online (OS is booted). Choose YES, you can also go into drive properties and choose Scan Disk with repair boxes checked and have a prompt in the GUI notify you of the same request.
2. Once you verify hard drive integrity, now it is time to verify system image integrity. Use the command: SFC /SCANNOW

There are several messages that can come up after a scan:
  • No repairs necessary or all repairs successful.
  • Some repairs successful, some not.
  • Other errors, issues found and no repairs successful.
If you receive the first message, then you're task is complete for this specific diagnostic and repair, if other issues exist, make sure you've scanned for virus and malware infections, installed the latest drivers, verified install packages, Windows features, and verified errors reported in system event logs.

If you receive either of the last two messages after a scan, please proceed to the next step.

3. If CHKDSK and SFC fail to repair the issues with the system, then it this is your next option and besides restoring from a previous backup might be the last option before re-installing the operating system. We will utilize DISM for this section.
  • In some instances, you don't need the OS ISO to perform the DISM image cleanup. You can attempt this on any OS from 8-10 by using the following command in elevated CLI: DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
  • In many cases now due to some changes Microsoft made, you'll need to have a copy of the OS ISO available. The ISO will need to be a standard deployment variety that contains Install.WIM in the Sources directory, otherwise the process will fail. Once you have the correct ISO, mount it in Explorer (can do this natively on Microsoft Windows 8.0+), verify the drive letter, verify image.WIM in the Sources directory.
    • To download Windows 10 from Microsoft, click here.
    • To download Windows 8/8.1 from Microsoft, click here.
  • Note: that as of Windows 10 1607 (Anniversary Edition), that all ISO's I have located contain Install.ESD, which will NOT work with this repair. The ESD must be converted to a WIM. Please click here to find the directions to perform that process.
  • Enter the following in elevated CLI: DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth /source:WIM:X:\Sources\Install.wim:1 /LimitAccess
    • X = drive letter of mounted ISO. Change to match the appropriate drive letter.
    • So say I had the Install.WIM located in C:\Images, I would type the following command: DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth /source:WIM:C:\Images\Install.WIM:1 /LimitAccess
4. It should be noted that in the rare event that SFC and DISM do fail to repair the system, then an OS refresh would be the next suggestion if the deployed that could save the user's files and OS deployment. This is an available feature since Windows 8. If the system is an OEM, an OS refresh from the OEM partition will mean a reinstall of the OS and loss of user data. You can run a refresh from the advanced boot menu or you can run the installation media while in Windows to perform and Upgrade installation, this will keep your files and settings but replace Windows files and components.

I've personally fixed/repaired dozens if not hundreds of systems with these utilities, because simply... THEY WORK. How do I know? Because I'm a systems and network professional that has to manage 100s of Windows PCs ranging from XP to 10, and where we can use these utilities to repair corruption, we save a ton of time. My technicians, bench guys and engineers all know and use the hell out of these utilities.

I find it hard to accept your statement above as something acceptable to even say here, it clearly shows your lack of experience with using the repair utilities SFC and DISM correctly or looking into what the failures were and how to fix them appropriately. Nor is that kind of crap even what TPU is or has ever really been about, and being such a long time member I would have expected you know that...though you've always been that way so maybe it's just habitual...surely not helpful to anyone else participating in this thread, or even yourself.

The OS is literally telling you what is wrong and where it's keeping the information so you can look into it further, that's not whining, that's stating facts. Nice try though. If you don't want to learn how to fix OS corruption, don't blame the OS or tools, blame yourself and shut up about it, and don't bitch about the OS utilities whining...LOL, because in reality wouldn't your bitching mean you're whining??? :slap:

So knock that shit off and let's fix the issues instead k? ;)
 

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Dude, please stop bashing things you don't fully understand.

SFC is the first step, System File Checker. That can fix many issues using various flags and knowing the context, and is a first step when there is doubt about system integrity. This is a simple utility and using SFC /Scannow will be the most commonly used flagged command for initial repair diagnostics. Takes a few minutes and is worth doing to resolve issues. While it can repair many issues, there's also many it cannot. That's where the next step comes in should you need it.

DISM, or Deployment Image Servicing and Management, is the big gorilla in Windows OSes for repairs and image management. It has a wide variety of uses from image capture and deploy to repair.

The common command for DISM was DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth,

Just running this can result in a system being repaired, but since the launch of Windows 10, the image check has become more complicated, requiring you have the Install.WIM file available for the OS version you're trying to repair. This is relatively, though with Microsoft's deployment of Windows 10, most ISO's you get from them have an Install.ESD that must be converted to a .WIM file. Pretty easy to do with a command in CLI or Powershell.

I typed up an article about this in the past...I'll go ahead and share it here for a series of steps a person could take to repair OS corruptions in Windows 8, 8.1 and 10. It's not hard to do, but takes some attention to detail, being able to handle command line (which is easy), and a little patience.



I've personally fixed/repaired dozens if not hundreds of systems with these utilities, because simply... THEY WORK. How do I know? Because I'm a systems and network professional that has to manage 100s of Windows PCs ranging from XP to 10, and where we can use these utilities to repair corruption, we save a ton of time. My technicians, bench guys and engineers all know and use the hell out of these utilities.

I find it hard to accept your statement above as something acceptable to even say here, it clearly shows your lack of experience with using the repair utilities SFC and DISM correctly or looking into what the failures were and how to fix them appropriately. Nor is that kind of crap even what TPU is or has ever really been about, and being such a long time member I would have expected you know that...though you've always been that way so maybe it's just habitual...surely not helpful to anyone else participating in this thread, or even yourself.

The OS is literally telling you what is wrong and where it's keeping the information so you can look into it further, that's not whining, that's stating facts. Nice try though. If you don't want to learn how to fix OS corruption, don't blame the OS or tools, blame yourself and shut up about it, and don't bitch about the OS utilities whining...LOL, because in reality wouldn't your bitching mean you're whining??? :slap:

So knock that shit off and let's fix the issues instead k? ;)

Kursah, I got respect for your ability to use these tools to repair a system. But calling them "relatively easy" is complete bunk. The original SFC.exe was a straight forward process. Run the command as administrator, and type the letters. Walk away. come back later, and it either worked, or didn't. The stretch of mess you have to do to even be able to run the "new and improved" method you detail above is a pain. Then the steps to process to actually attempt repairs..... not "relatively easy". They went from a distributor cap that I could have shown my daughter how to check and fix to a computerized system that I simply can't manage beyond hooking up a unit to look at it and say "Yep, it's not working".
 

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and that ladies and gents is why we have PM's.

This thread is invaluable as [Censored]

Please keep the discussions about how you un-fornicate your OS installs to other threads?
 

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rightio, since its so big i'll grab that one to save myself some time and manually update everything at once
 
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I tried the update "not applicable to your computer" just to confirm ;)
 
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Microsoft 'pauses' W10 Insider Previews for PC to prepare for Unified Update Platform

UUP contains only the changes that have been made since the last time you updated your device, rather than a full build.

The UUP made its debut on W10 Mobile devices in November, and now, MS is preparing to integrate it into PC builds too.
 

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Hopefully this really shrinks the windows update sizes and its associated drama for us crap internet people. Is it being backported to 8.1/7?
 
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Download KB 3206632 x64 (947 MB) for Windows 10 Anniversary Update (brings system to 14393.576)

Improved reliability of Security Support Provider Interface.
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Addressed issue where a Catalog-signed module installation does not work on Nano Server.
Addressed issue with Devices left with Hello on for an excessive amount of time will not go into power savings mode.
Addressed issue with gl_pointSize to not work properly when used with drawElements method in Internet Explorer 11.
Addressed issue where Azure Active Directory-joined machines after upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1607 cannot sync with Exchange.
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Security updates to Microsoft Edge, Internet Explorer, Microsoft Uniscribe, Common Log File System Driver.
 
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3 new features that'll (probably) appear in the Creators Update build:

Game mode

WindowsBlueLightReduction

and here's the most important one:

Microsoft could finally kill Automatic Updates

(at least for 35 days lol)

 

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its more of a 'delay' updates than anything - slightly better than the tool i use and recommend, simply because its built in.
 

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Location
Louisiana -Laissez les bons temps rouler!
System Name Bayou Phantom
Processor Core i7-8700k 4.4Ghz @ 1.18v
Motherboard ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 6
Cooling All air: 2x140mm Fractal exhaust; 3x 140mm Cougar Intake; Enermax T40F Black CPU cooler
Memory 2x 16GB Mushkin Redline DDR-4 3200
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Xc
Storage 1x 500 MX500 SSD; 2x 6TB WD Black; 1x 4TB WD Black; 1x400GB VelRptr; 1x 4TB WD Blue storage (eSATA)
Display(s) HP 27q 27" IPS @ 2560 x 1440
Case Fractal Design Define R4 Black w/Titanium front -windowed
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Z
Power Supply Seasonic X-850
Mouse Coolermaster Sentinel III (large palm grip!)
Keyboard Logitech G610 Orion mechanical (Cherry Brown switches)
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Start10 & Fences 3.0 installed)
its more of a 'delay' updates than anything - slightly better than the tool i use and recommend, simply because its built in.

Actually, the WUMT you recommend is much better. It allows me to never install updates I don't want. Yes, it will ask me like a stubborn child every month...but I just say no. :D
 

Mussels

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58,413 (8.19/day)
Location
Oystralia
System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
i love the tool, but so many friends and family have lost or deleted it and therefore windows update is 'broken' to them :/
 
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