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E2180 vs 5200+

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    Got a good feeling today playing BF2142. Found out I had the fastest computer. Then I had a thought...

    What would be faster in identical systems at stock settings? Lets say we have 2GB DDR2 800CAS 4 and an 8800gt 512, with a 600w quality power supply.

    The E2180, 2GHz, 1MB L2, 800MHz FSB, or
    The 5200+, 2.6GHz, 2MB L2, 2000MHz HT link
     
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    2ghz*4IPC=8000
    2.6ghz*3IPC=7800

    thus the E2180 is theoretically better, but cache and other factors come intoplay like the FSB on an intel chip which is inferior to HTT
     
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    Generally speaking, the 5200+ will be faster.

    A side note, the E2180 does o/c pretty well (2.8Ghz+), which would be better than a stock 5200+
     
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    I think it would be close, but the 5200+ would probably win out slightly because of the extra Cache, but the E2180 would win out when both are overclocked. The E2180 should be good for 3GHz easily.
     
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    I figured they would come close.
    How about
    E2180 at 3GHz
    5200+ at 3.4 (assuming it's one of the newer F3 revisions)
     
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    E2180 wins then - compare an E6750 to an 6400X2 for a close comparison. (E6750 because of the small cache in the E21X0s)
     
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    same calc i used before

    3ghz*4IPC=12000
    3.4ghz*3IPC=10200

    but they should still be pretty even in games since the AMD has a larger cache and HTT VS FSB which gives better connectivity to vid cards etc
     
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    How many instructions did netburst take? Like a fourth of one? :p
     
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    2? i think was the number nutburst could do
     
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    i can guaranty AT LEAST 3.4ghz from a e2180 and at that speed the AMD doesn't stand a chance.
     
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    the phenom 9700 and the q6600 are neck and neck at stock .................... mmmm i wonder how the new ones will perform the stepping that comes out aftet they fix the errata bug. =)
     
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    surely stock performance shouldn't count.. at least not to us dudes it shouldn't..

    stock speeds for intel are part of the rigged price fixing system.. why for example does intels cheapest quad come clocked at 2.4 gig.. why not 2.6 or 2.8.. all speeds it could come clocked at and sell for the same price as it does clocked at 2.4....

    are intel really being kind to amd.. one possible explanation..

    not one i am inclined to believe thow.. intel could wipe the floor with amd if they sold their chips "honestly"..

    no intel are happy with amd struggling along being "inferior".. the world is relative thing.. without a loser there cant be a winner..

    but the bottom line is intel have the better chips by far.. even if they are hiding the fact to a great extent..

    the two chips picked for the example are very similar out of the box it seems.. but in truth they are not similar at all.. if the intel chip wasnt artificially crippled it would leave the amd chip standing..

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    The E2180 is cheaper and is on par with the 5200+ at stock speeds and can OC oh so easily to 3ghz+. I my self picked up a E2200 being a life time AMD fan.
     
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    E2180 is a good overclocker, but because I actually listened to hat I've concluded that at "stock" speeds the 5200+ would annihilate the E2180. Both CPU's over clocked would be a tough one. Most probably equivalently and not enough to differentiate between the two.
     
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    except for the fact the amd chip will overclock by 30% the intel chip will overlcock by 100%.. rough figures.. not exact..

    trog
     
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