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[erocker]

it depends on who you talk to! beware politicaly motivated economists.



high profits are rarely sustainable, especially in a recession. there are sooo many reasons why activision could be seeing high profits. most likely it is new management and a better business model. without a full detailed background of activision it is impossible to know. raising prices could be an indicator of market adjustment. because of the recession more and more people are spending less on vacations and more on things like going to the movies, and spending money on video games.




i'll say this and be done with it. the reason healthcare is expensive in the US is because of government interference which began in the 1960s. there was a time in the US that healthcare was affordable for everyone.

Yes. Oh, and greed from pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies. Bottom line it all comes down to greed whether public or private. I reminisce to a time when money wasn't #1 on people's list of importance. Then again back then I was a child, I would of much rather had a Voltron instead of boring money.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Yes. Oh, and greed from pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies. Bottom line it all comes down to greed whether public or private. I reminisce to a time when money wasn't #1 on people's list of importance. Then again back then I was a child, I would of much rather had a Voltron instead of boring money.

I miss Voltron too, I don't think Voltron would stand for this unjustice, he would pull out the big sword and cut the ACTIVISION HQ in half while the sky flashed brite colors

 

[Easy Rhino]

DO YOU MEAN FREEDOMS LIKE *LIFE* LIBERTY AND *JUSTICE* FOR ALL
I hear what you are saying but how free are you when you are sick and have to rely on someone with a cure that could save your life, how free are you then, i guess free enough to die huh, if you can't pay for it, where is the Justice in that
Nobody would be forced to be a doctor it would be a choice like those who decide to be politicians and they would be given a rather nice chunk of change to do it, and if we had a medical science foundation built under the NASA model it could be done quite effortlessly, I have a rather smart cousin who used to work at the Glenn research facility in Cleveland b4 it shut down now he lives in Hampton Virginia and still works for NASA making $190,000 a year with the best health care you could imagine, He could go work in the private sector for more money, it is his choice as a free citizen, but he likes to do less restricted research. According to him in the private sector you are given a project to look for answers from A-E where as in NASA they want A-Z, which he says "Is like looking for treatment instead of a cure" and i believe that's exactly it, profit before all else.If money is the main goal, money we will find, and that's the problem, Private companies don't want a cure they want a treatment, and that;s dragging us all down

that wouldnt lower the cost of health insurance. it would simply give politicians another outlet to lull the people into serfdom. you cannot have a right to healthcare when you rely on someone else to both PAY for it and provide at a cost set out by a third party. it would be like me going up to you and demanding that you build me a PC at the price I demand no matter the cost to you.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

that wouldnt lower the cost of health insurance. it would simply give politicians another outlet to lull the people into serfdom. you cannot have a right to healthcare when you rely on someone else to both PAY for it and provide at a cost set out by a third party. it would be like me going up to you and demanding that you build me a PC at the price I demand no matter the cost to you.

I'm not suggesting we keep insurance, that = profit i'm suggesting it's provided to you like water from the tap, for basic stuff, and life or death, insurance can be for creature comfort health care
We are paying for it already btw i'm suggesting we pull the profit from what we are already paying for (welfare, medicaid)
EDIT: you do realize we pay for medical research thru taxes right,then corps Patent what they want and charge us for there profit, go to STANFORD medical and look it up 10% of medical research is privately paid for the rest is from our taxes, why should they profit from my money and not there's yeah they have to pay for FDA clearings, after we pay to have it developed, that process could be replaced VIA a national medical board, oh wait we have one that already does that, huh seems like we made it law to pay for corp greed

 

[Reventon]

I'll wait and buy it used, thanks.

 

[MilkyWay]

that wouldnt lower the cost of health insurance. it would simply give politicians another outlet to lull the people into serfdom. you cannot have a right to healthcare when you rely on someone else to both PAY for it and provide at a cost set out by a third party. it would be like me going up to you and demanding that you build me a PC at the price I demand no matter the cost to you.

i dont want to drag it off topic again but if you get private healthcare others are still paying for your treatment so to speak as 1 consumer you cant afford all the equipment and such but as a whole everyone who pays can afford to fund the hospital

so its exactly the same as a public scheme except that you get to choose who you pay to

maybe its the US analysts that are trying to scare its own country i mean a lot of analysts are saying its stagnated and its at a peak UK government says that it is too

but they do say it will stay like this for a while

 

[DrPepper]

I still say a revolution is the best answer to MW2's pricing.

 

[MilkyWay]

I still say a revolution is the best answer to MW2's pricing.

its not just that game tho im not being stingy because i want it, its the whole linup is increasing greatly in price that im abject to

why do they need to do this? they make millions of profit on these titles

why overcharge?

Lets go back to a monarchy and we all pay the queen to live in luxury and steal from foreign places, IMPRERIALISM FTW!

or anarchy where we have no government and we pay everyone to do stuff for us total freedom REAL FREEDOM, freedom to do whatever you like!

 

[Deleted member 67555]

I'll wait and buy it used, thanks.

If that avatar is a pic of you can i hump your leg

 

[DrPepper]

its not just that game tho im not being stingy because i want it, its the whole linup is increasing greatly in price that im abject to

why do they need to do this? they make millions of profit on these titles

why overcharge?

Make up for expected loses in the future methinks.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

its not just that game tho im not being stingy because i want it, its the whole linup is increasing greatly in price that im abject to

why do they need to do this? they make millions of profit on these titles

why overcharge?

you could get it WAREZ'or you are oh wait im mean wherever

 

[MilkyWay]

Make up for expected loses in the future methinks.

like that company is going to make a huge loss in the future! other companies arnt doing it.

they are affluent they can afford it, they will make millions of profit on guitar hero and cod

 

[DrPepper]

Aye but what if they're required to pay their staff 10% more wages or utilities and other fixed costs are rising.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Aye but what if they're required to pay their staff 10% more wages or utilities and other fixed costs are rising.

That might be it corp taxes are going up here in the U.S.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

i dont want to drag it off topic again but if you get private healthcare others are still paying for your treatment so to speak as 1 consumer you cant afford all the equipment and such but as a whole everyone who pays can afford to fund the hospital

so its exactly the same as a public scheme except that you get to choose who you pay to

maybe its the US analysts that are trying to scare its own country i mean a lot of analysts are saying its stagnated and its at a peak UK government says that it is too

but they do say it will stay like this for a while

Thank you and well said
Edit: I seriously hope that you are not correct in believing that your fellow countrymen stand by and idly do nothing as cost sore for no apparent reason,your post makes me think otherwise. Over here i believe we have done that for about the last 8 years under the Douchebag administration (bush) at least some of us did, I did not. As you see some people here believe money has to be the bottom line for everything, they forget to to live, oh wait i'm sorry they can't afford to live, cause they had to take out a second mortgage to pay for little junior to be born and uht oh! It was an ARM mortgage and now it's gone up 45% I guess no extra schooling for junior He'll just have to hope he can get a good job out of HIGH SCHOOL, I hope he can find one with Health insurance, though it;s not likely with only a HIGH SCHOOL diploma< see really you want to talk about slavery RHINO!! REALLY look around at WTF! is going on! LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE!
The more time you waste on a hopeless argument the WORSE things are gonna get here-(I think this what you meant by IT's an uproar here in the U.S. when price's go up for no reason MilkyWay)

 

[kurosagi01]

I'm not suggesting we keep insurance, that = profit i'm suggesting it's provided to you like water from the tap, for basic stuff, and life or death, insurance can be for creature comfort health care
We are paying for it already btw i'm suggesting we pull the profit from what we are already paying for (welfare, medicaid)
EDIT: you do realize we pay for medical research thru taxes right,then corps Patent what they want and charge us for there profit, go to STANFORD medical and look it up 10% of medical research is privately paid for the rest is from our taxes, why should they profit from my money and not there's yeah they have to pay for FDA clearings, after we pay to have it developed, that process could be replaced VIA a national medical board, oh wait we have one that already does that, huh seems like we made it law to pay for corp greed

suck it up,this is how the world runs we citizens pay for health,defence and research by tax,nothing you can do would change that fact and we are paying the president or prime minister or whatever for no reason,their not doing any good job at all to keep the economy stable....besides why are you talking about politics if this thread is about price increase on a popular game that crazy cod fans will probably buy for its price at launch?? no denying it WILL happen,you will get crazy cod fans buying the game

 

[El Fiendo]

My apologies if this has already been posted.

Interesting Link

 

[Deleted member 67555]

suck it up,this is how the world runs we citizens pay for health,defence and research by tax,nothing you can do would change that fact and we are paying the president or prime minister or whatever for no reason,their not doing any good job at all to keep the economy stable....besides why are you talking about politics if this thread is about price increase on a popular game that crazy cod fans will probably buy for its price at launch?? no denying it WILL happen,you will get crazy cod fans buying the game

well partly because of a much needed attitude towards Corps and ill willed Govt officials that was brought up in this post, any boycott or calling there of requires an amount of an aggressive attitude towards not only the guilty party but those who are guilty of said product or service of any related products or service's and anything else in which the said Responder feels the need to BITCH ABOUT
thank you very much

 

[TheMailMan78]

I'll wait and buy it used, thanks.

Whats that Reventons avatar? You want me to leave my wife and worship you? Ok.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Whats that Reventons avatar? You want me to leave my wife and worship you? Ok.

DITO

 

[MilkyWay]

My apologies if this has already been posted.

Interesting Link

Thats the guy from WEDOTECH a channel on youtube that does drinks reviews and modern game reviews. I actually agree with him, seems like a lot of people do! Only thing i dont agree with is giving away DLC to make people buy a game, like an incentive it only works a small fraction of the time and isnt good for the long term. What you really need to do is make it retain the products value for longer, like even tho its second hand it only costs slightly less. That way people will be more inclined to just go for the new version.

Ive seen a few thousand signatures make a difference before yet at the same time ive seen millions of signatures make squat of a difference. Hard to tell most of the time what could happen.

What we are saying is that games just arnt worth that price they are asking and we wont stand for it, we dont want Activisons ideas spreading to other games companies. We dont want a normal price of games to increase because a lot of us already find it high at the current level.

Its shocking to pay £55 for a game in this economic time.

Thats a good link you posted! Thanks again for the link maybe it will give some more information to people other than the links i posted.

Another thing i dont like is DLC pricing, some of it is frivolous but thats another story and EA killing pc gaming is sad to. Dropping pc versions of titles for example the tiger woods series.

“I would raise the prices even further.” what a sack! total disregard for consumers, a mockery even :shadedshu

http://www.gossipgamers.com/wp-cont...gamers.com&wp-toolbar-blogtitle=Gossip Gamers

sign the petition!

 

[Reventon]

Whats that Reventons avatar? You want me to leave my wife and worship you? Ok.

DITO

inorite

How do you know that's not meh o.o?

 

[TheMailMan78]

inorite

How do you know that's not meh o.o?

Because I remember your last avy and the hot cup of fappuccino that was. It doesnt matter. Even if that was you I'd still be useless. Looking at a hot chick is like looking at a GT500. Sure its sexy but YOU'LL never drive one.

 

[kurosagi01]

well partly because of a much needed attitude towards Corps and ill willed Govt officials that was brought up in this post, any boycott or calling there of requires an amount of an aggressive attitude towards not only the guilty party but those who are guilty of said product or service of any related products or service's and anything else in which the said Responder feels the need to BITCH ABOUT
thank you very much

well i don't see the point of boycotting about it,if you don't like paying for that price then DON'T buy its simple as that.
Why waste time boycotting,they wouldn't listen to you at all,you WILL get people paying for that price anyway.if you want get it cheap right now then go PRE-ORDER it from a website that still sell it for £45 for the console version or £35 for PC version,its simple as that

 

[FreedomEclipse]

well i don't see the point of boycotting about it,if you don't like paying for that price then DON'T buy its simple as that.
Why waste time boycotting,they wouldn't listen to you at all,you WILL get people paying for that price anyway.if you want get it cheap right now then go PRE-ORDER it from a website that still sell it for £45 for the console version or £35 for PC version,its simple as that

right.... So what if Activisions price increase campaign was so successful that EA & all the other dev studios decide to follow suit & up their prices as well? would you STILL be saying the same thing if EVERY pc game was £55 or more??? dont overlook this because it could be a one off - its something that could potentially effect the entire industy. If devs set a a price for a game then its really upto the Retailers & Etailers how much they want to sell it for, but again you seem to forget these Retailers/E-tailers are also in the same boat - they're after your money too & any excuse they get to sell a game for maximum profit, they will take. if prices were raised to £55 do you think Game, Virgin, HMV or Gamestation will still keep their current price of £35 for games? I dont think so. & IMHO, if we can prevent Activision running this campaign then we will be able to prevent the mass snowball effect that will only hurt the consumers.

are you sure your happy not buying anymore games for the next few years??? since every game will be £55 & pirate games are pretty hit & miss when it comes to online play.

you're affected anyway wheather you buy the game or not.

end of discussion.

 

[kurosagi01]

right.... So what if Activisions price increase campaign was so successful that EA & all the other dev studios decide to follow suit & up their prices as well? would you STILL be saying the same thing if EVERY pc game was £55 or more??? dont overlook this because it could be a one off - its something that could potentially effect the entire industy. If devs set a a price for a game then its really upto the Retailers & Etailers how much they want to sell it for, but again you seem to forget these Retailers/E-tailers are also in the same boat - they're after your money too & any excuse they get to sell a game for maximum profit, they will take. if prices were raised to £55 do you think Game, Virgin, HMV or Gamestation will still keep their current price of £35 for games? I dont think so. & IMHO, if we can prevent Activision running this campaign then we will be able to prevent the mass snowball effect that will only hurt the consumers.

are you sure your happy not buying anymore games for the next few years??? since every game will be £55 & pirate games are pretty hit & miss when it comes to online play.

you're affected anyway wheather you buy the game or not.

end of discussion.

yeah i know that freedom,i don't like the price rising as all of you do,i'm only pointing out that even we do campaign it or whatever and it was successful they would make an excuse about it and they will eventually drop the new idea of price increase since it was unsuccessful sale but then again i'm only pointing out people that are fans of the franchise will certainly pay for its price..i know some of my friends would pay £55 for mw2 because their big fans of the franchise thats all i'm saying.
Yes it be good if people can convince activision to not do it because other game dev will do the same but you have to look at other reasons too,pirating is getting bigger of course and there are now online retailing like steam,amazon,nvidia etc etc which will eventually make retailers go bust..nobody buys CD or rent movies anymore because they could go on amazon or itunes to purchase it.

again i DON'T like the price increase as much as you do

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Ive been a fan of Activision since the SoF days. I totally adored CoD1/UO, hated CoD2, loved CoD4 & more or less enjoyed(ish) CoD:W@W - even though its a pretty half arsed game.

Im a big fan of the franchise but at the same time, as much as i want the game & play it the moment it comes out - im not stupid enough to pay through my nose for it

 

[kurosagi01]

yes i agree with you,but there will be people that will pay for that price who are hardcore fan of the franchise which kinda stupid of them to pay for that much for a game,you can get much better stuff with that kind of money.

 

[Reventon]

Because I remember your last avy and the hot cup of fappuccino that was. It doesnt matter. Even if that was you I'd still be useless. Looking at a hot chick is like looking at a GT500. Sure its sexy but YOU'LL never drive one.

^^^^^