Elder Scrolls V SKYRIM !! 11-11-11

[Benetanegia]

lol... just lol..

I love how Ben says 'young people' and he's an 80's child. I was born in 1974 young man, listen up....

lol I didn't meant to say I'm old at all. I said young people as 5+ years younger than me. But I still think I have a point and although I'm definately young, yet, IMO there is a big difference between people born in the early 80's versus the ones that were born in late 80's, when it comes to games. It's a big difference IMO, I grew playing the first Mario games, Monkey Island games, Street Fighter, and my first PC game was the first Prince of Persia. While more advanced than the VGames you (or even older people here on TPU) probably played when you were kids, they were still very simple and left a lot to imagination, both from the description of the world they were trying to represent and the story which usually consisted in a bunch of lines here and there.

It's in the late 90's when a breakthrough happened IMO and after that we are talking about people who grew with Metal Gear, Half-life, Tomb Raider, Halo etc (even maybe Duke Nukem 3D). Games that offered a much more elaborate story and left far far less to the imagination. The difference between Doom 1&2 (1993-1994) and (even) Duke 3D (1995) is mind blowing IMO, and the perception of people who had played previous games vs the ones whose first game was something like Duke3D is quite different. It was not an evolution but a revolution if you get what I mean. Even my brother who is 2 years younger than me has a different perception. Of course, you may see it differently, but that's how I see it. I had already been playing for 10+ years by the time that those games were released and it completely changed the landscape, for the good, of course, but maybe not for the best of kids. Not for the ones with lazy parents at least. In the end video games are never the culprt, parents are.

And regarding P&P RPG like I said most people play with rules, but some play with custom rules made by them and can change them on the fly as they see fit. It's just a matter of talking about it and decide what's reasonable, in the end it's all about having a good time together. There's room for all kinds of games, I just don't understand how some people act as if anyone who wants something different, has to be critized and "corrected". I never said I wanted to play without rules, nor that I want a game without rules, TES has rules, I just don't want them to change. (change for the worse, that is)

 

[wahdangun]

i just wish kinect would support windows and come earlier, this is the game that i think will great for it, wow i i even jizzed my pants trying to imagine how cool it will be

imagine slaying the wolf with your barehand

 

[AphexDreamer]

i just wish kinect would support windows and come earlier, this is the game that i think will great for it, wow i i even jizzed my pants trying to imagine how cool it will be

imagine slaying the wolf with your barehand

I'm really hoping they have Move support for the PS3 or they hurry and get the Move working on the PC (Currently in Development). Gladiator is such a bad ass game with your Shield in one hand and sword in the other, this would work so well in a TES game.

You would actually be able to wield your weapons and swing them too!

 

[digibucc]

the company that made most of the parts for kinect is releasing their own pc accessory. i will try to find the story.
i agree, i would like move. there is already cl-eye(ps3 camera) support, i would think it's just software now (as long as you have bt in your pc)

@ bene , i see your point. it makes sense. I would think there HAS to be a perception difference between myself, starting with original mario and such, even D&D on Atari. Didn't have a lot of games abut a select few good ones anywyay, there has to be a difference between myself, and someone who started with psx, or 90s pc games. If the first pc game I ever played was Diablo...wow. that would have been something. but i think i have more of an appreciation for the rapid advancement in technology, having seen it at such an early stage naturally. I was born in 85, but we were always behind technologically.

 

[BumbleBee]

I don't think Skyrim has any Move or Kinect support.

 

[hellrazor]

@Ben: Have you played Fallout 1? There is literally between little and no story to it, just "we need a waterchip, go find it". And it's not based on D&D, just so you know.

@Wahdangun: Maybe if I could snap it's neck.

EDIT: @wahdangun: That would make the art of stealth so much better, imagine running across rooftops, a gaurd doesn't see you, you land behind him in a bushy spot *snap!*. No more of that 4x critical crap.

 

[Benetanegia]

@Ben: Have you played Fallout 1? There is literally between little and no story to it, just "we need a waterchip, go find it". And it's not based on D&D, just so you know.

@Wahdangun: Maybe if I could snap it's neck.

I have not played it.

I know it's not D&D lol. But it's SPECIAL anyway, which is nothing but a modification of GURPS which is once again a rule system based on experience points and skill points gained at level up.

A role playing game does not need those (IRL, not in video games, in videogames rules are needed) and a P&P session can be conducted with no statistics at all.

i.e someone might choose to be a barbarian whose main power is that he is strong. How much? Very strong. Nothing more is really necessary as long as there is a consensus about what a strong human is. Later on when faced against an enemy like a troll, an ogre or something, such player will not be able to beat it by sheer brute force, or using his warhammer, etc, because everyone understands that even a strong human is not powerful enough to beat them. He/she will have to find another way to beat them, and as long as the response is fun and imaginative, it will probably succeed only based on the consnsus of other players. Same if for example the group needs to move a rock to open an entrance to a cave or something, the situation and the posible resolutions can be evaluated in a per case basis and are almost invariably evaluated based on imagination, fun factor and how well the player exposes his/her case.

Because like I said, in this style of RPG the objective is imagination and fun, not necessarily beating the game. And if you ask me it's far more fun to play than with a playbook, especially if there's some drinks involved and players are long time friends. Running jokes within the group can make for great powers and weapons, ie.

- someone who doesn't like paying some beers when you go out, etc, can gain the "insurmountably greedy" ability, which makes him so greedy he can even steal for himself all the air and/or light from a room, in certain situations.
- or common objects can obtain mythic properties, like that home made undrinkable vomit inducing liquor you all drank that night when you were post-teenagers and which obtains the status of explosive, corrosive, poisonous and whatnot.
the "incredibly big sausage" that can crush anything under its weight...
or to put an example that maybe more people can understand, "the fifth and final slap" which would be a one time one hit kill slap that would kill any human-like character. You know, based on the joke in the show How I Met Your Mother.

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

Morrowind, because of it's surreal nature, had more of a sense of wonder while exploring.
Let's hope that Skyrim brings some of that back.

hahah yeah this. frakin mushroom for trees, floating overlord like animals, and that perpetual howling sound in the background. really felt authentic

 

[Mussels]

morrowind was just fun because you could access high level gear in locations by sneaking in, stealing shit, or just randomly exploring (glass armor 20 minutes in? hell yeah!)

 

[wahdangun]

@Ben: Have you played Fallout 1? There is literally between little and no story to it, just "we need a waterchip, go find it". And it's not based on D&D, just so you know.

@Wahdangun: Maybe if I could snap it's neck.

EDIT: @wahdangun: That would make the art of stealth so much better, imagine running across rooftops, a gaurd doesn't see you, you land behind him in a bushy spot *snap!*. No more of that 4x critical crap.

yupz, it will really bring a new definition of action RPG, if they really support it on windows i will immediately buy kinncet just to play TES

 

[entropy13]

The lyrics in the trailer were initially thought by some to be English, but are actually in the language of dragons:

Dovahkiin Dovahkiin
Naal ok zin los vahriin
Wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal
Ahrk fin norok paal graan
Fod nust hon zindro zaan
Dovahkiin Fah hin kogaan mu draal

Which translates to:

Dragonborn Dragonborn
By his honor is sworn
To keep evil forever at bay
And the fiercest foes rout
When they hear triumph's shout
Dragonborn for your blessing we pray

 

[BumbleBee]

http://www.gameinformer.com/p/skyrim_wall.aspx

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

Yeah sometimes there are Game Informers amongst the stacks and stacks of new magazines and trade publications we get here at the ol' ad firm but sadly not this month.

I suppose I could go to Borders a block away.

I was born in 1974 young man, listen up....

'74 FTW Wooooo!

 

[Kreij]

hahah yeah this. frakin mushroom for trees, floating overlord like animals, and that perpetual howling sound in the background. really felt authentic

You wandered around for awhile in town checking things out after they dropped you off.
You head off down the trail.
A mage falls out of the sky and lands dead in the trail in front of you from a bad jump spell.
WTF !!

You finally find the guy you are looking for in a quest.
He basically tells you, "I don't know you, go away", without any more clues as to what to do.
WTF !!

You got directions in a quest that said, "It's to the North."
WTF !!

The unexpected is what made Morrowind great. Bring that back please, Bethesda.

 

[The_Ish]

EDIT: @wahdangun: That would make the art of stealth so much better, imagine running across rooftops, a gaurd doesn't see you, you land behind him in a bushy spot *snap!*. No more of that 4x critical crap.

I will /wrist before i try to run in place and jump. True keyboard warriors do not have able bodies

 

[pantherx12]

lets hope its optimised DX11 with good eyefinity support, good 3D support (for Nvidia users) and good tesselation support that makes it faster, not slower


and and some kind of neural interface so i can just THINK at it, too.


good melee controls would be nice too...

Why no 3d love for ATI mussels?

 

[Mussels]

Why no 3d love for ATI mussels?

i cant use the 3D unless its true 120Hz flavoured - and i aint seen many games i can sustain 120FPS at for the entire duration. even 20 seconds of flickery shite 3D via glasses would result in a game session ending headache for me.


also, nvidia seem to be way on top with the 3D stuff... ATI (like me) just doesnt give a shit

 

[WhiteLotus]

Why no 3d love for ATI mussels?

3D can fuck right off. It's a gimmick and I really hope it doesn't stay around for long.

 

[Akumos]

Can't wait for this game!!

 

[BumbleBee]

Creation engine and screen shot.

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/t...d-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim.aspx?PostPageIndex=1

 

[T3kl0rd]

MAKE THIS UTILIZE A QUAD CORE CPU ON PC BETHESDA! That was what was wrong with Oblivion, it wasn't drawing that much but was not utilizing enough system resources to get it done. I know this game will pwn so hard, I love Morrowind and Oblivion still, two of my most faves by far. Not playing the Doom looking first two, too many other games to play.

That guy dropping out of the sky in Morrowind was really cool, the other two instances, meh not so much.

I love going to Ghostgate to steal me some glass armor, then I set my ninja mod armor to those stats for my 1337 arse ninjer.

 

[Kreij]

Nice. If it does what they are saying, Skyrim has the potential to be awesome.

 

[AphexDreamer]

I swear if its a blend of MOrrowind and Oblivion it will be something epic alright! Or they warm up an entirely new feeling I'm down for that too! RELEASE A DEMO OR SOMETHING PLEAS THE WAITING IS KILLING ME!

 

[Mussels]

MAKE THIS UTILIZE A QUAD CORE CPU ON PC BETHESDA! That was what was wrong with Oblivion, it wasn't drawing that much but was not utilizing enough system resources to get it done. I know this game will pwn so hard, I love Morrowind and Oblivion still, two of my most faves by far. Not playing the Doom looking first two, too many other games to play.

That guy dropping out of the sky in Morrowind was really cool, the other two instances, meh not so much.

I love going to Ghostgate to steal me some glass armor, then I set my ninja mod armor to those stats for my 1337 arse ninjer.

if its DX11, then we have our multithreading.

 

[AphexDreamer]

Something tells me its not going to have DX11 or it would have been mentioned already (Unless its still in the works for some reaons). Interesting enough the pics almost seem as though they are using DX11.