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Entry-Level Alder Lake Boards Starting at $85 US

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This is gonna make for some killer 12400 setups
 
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For what it is isn't 85$ a bit expensive? i did a couple bilds with similar boards in the past and never paid that much.
 
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2 DIMM slots and no VRM cooling? yeah naaaaa, hard pass!
 
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2 DIMM slots and no VRM cooling? yeah naaaaa, hard pass!

2 dimms slots are more then enough for 80% of people, even when you upgrade most people just exchange it for 2 higher capacity dimms not 4, it's better in terms of stability.
VRM cooling isn't really necessary if you have good cooling and a low wattage cpu, no need to waste money if you don't need to. Can you even put a unlocked cpu and overclock on this? probably not.
 
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For what it is isn't 85$ a bit expensive? i did a couple bilds with similar boards in the past and never paid that much.
Every series of motherboards B, H and Z are more expensive than ever before, so its not a surprise, it all started with coffee lake refresh z390, the increased power requirements forced board partners to use better parts, resulting in higher prices gen after gen, with alder lake consumes slightly more power than previous gen, its bound to be more expensive
 
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2 dimms slots are more then enough for 80% of people, even when you upgrade most people just exchange it for 2 higher capacity dimms not 4, it's better in terms of stability.
VRM cooling isn't really necessary if you have good cooling and a low wattage cpu, no need to waste money if you don't need to. Can you even put a unlocked cpu and overclock on this? probably not.
2 DIMMs are only goood for the most basic POS's of PC's, like a office PC, and if you ever wanted to upgrade you gotta spend twice as much for the RAM, 4DIMMS is always the best way to go.
VRM cooling again is something people dont think of till they put in a more power CPU and realise its under performing, again only good for the most basic POS office PC's. Plenty of youtube Videos showing how bad these budget Motherboards are with higher end CPUs
 
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2 DIMMs are only goood for the most basic POS's of PC's, like a office PC, and if you ever wanted to upgrade you gotta spend twice as much for the RAM, 4DIMMS is always the best way to go.
VRM cooling again is something people dont think of till they put in a more power CPU and realise its under performing, again only good for the most basic POS office PC's. Plenty of youtube Videos showing how bad these budget Motherboards are with higher end CPUs

Coudn't disagree more, no one is going to use this with high end cpu's, that would be idiotic, they surve a purpose for low end machines and i don't mean celerons. You only need 4 dimm slots on this low end boards when you can easily buy 2 and put less strain on the memory controller.

I think you absolutely missed the point of this boar by what you write.

Every series of motherboards B, H and Z are more expensive than ever before, so its not a surprise, it all started with coffee lake refresh z390, the increased power requirements forced board partners to use better parts, resulting in higher prices gen after gen, with alder lake consumes slightly more power than previous gen, its bound to be more expensive

i can hardly see were the extra money would be going in such a barebones mobo
 
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This, paired with a 12100 and 16GB of cheap DDR4, would make a good email/websurfing machine for Grandma.
 
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Some very high end boards only have 2 memory slots. i wonder why that is. /s (sarcastic)

The board has the holes for the vrm sinks, so if it needs them, should be easy enough to find something for there. And 2 x 16gb sticks is more than enough for even a gaming rig, so i don't see no problem with that either.
 
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Some very high end boards only have 2 memory slots. i wonder why that is.

The board has the holes for the vrm sinks, so if it needs them, should be easy enough to find something for there. And 2 x 16gb sticks is more than enough for even a gaming rig, so i don't see no problem with that either.

you can also get those gheto chinese little heatsinks :D but it does work to the point they can of course

This, paired with a 12100 and 16GB of cheap DDR4, would make a good email/websurfing machine for Grandma.

there's literally countless gamers using way less then that for gaming
 
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Looks like a 45$ Board in the past like FM2 or 1150. :laugh:

Ill never pay for that shit 85$


But yeah its the timeline of Gam0R:
Mouse 100$
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CPU 2-300$
Motherboard 85 $ from H to 300$ to Z
GPU from 1000$ to 3000$
etc. etc. etc.
 
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Looks like a 45$ Board in the past like FM2 or 1150. :laugh:

Ill never pay for that shit 85$

exactly, that what i used to pay for boards like this, around 50.
 
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This, paired with a 12100 and 16GB of cheap DDR4, would make a good email/websurfing machine for Grandma.

Grandma would be happy with a PC with half the specs as this, lol
 
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This, paired with a 12100 and 16GB of cheap DDR4, would make a good email/websurfing machine for Grandma.
Your grandma will not have much fun to destroy theyr brain even my primary build out of a A8 3800, 12 GB RAM and a R7 260x, i use it for Solidworks and Codeblocks :laugh:

Maybe a i 486 would be better for your grandma:kookoo:


Its so funny new gen talk about Compute Power but the only horizon they have is gaming and maybe sometims a littlebit Office,
about real work they so stupid like new chicks.
 
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2 DIMMs are only goood for the most basic POS's of PC's, like a office PC, and if you ever wanted to upgrade you gotta spend twice as much for the RAM, 4DIMMS is always the best way to go.
VRM cooling again is something people dont think of till they put in a more power CPU and realise its under performing, again only good for the most basic POS office PC's. Plenty of youtube Videos showing how bad these budget Motherboards are with higher end CPUs
That's what ASRock HDV motherboards are for: basic POS office PCs.

We can expect ASUS, MSI and Gigabyte to make something better at a similar price. They always do. ASRock HDV is trash.

Every series of motherboards B, H and Z are more expensive than ever before, so its not a surprise, it all started with coffee lake refresh z390, the increased power requirements forced board partners to use better parts, resulting in higher prices gen after gen, with alder lake consumes slightly more power than previous gen, its bound to be more expensive
This motherboard's VRM only has one MOSFET more than the H510M HDV (not one power stage. one MOSFET). That does not justify a significant price increase. To be honest $85 isn't that much higher than the previous generations, but it's not really improved either.

But Alder Lake doesn't consume more power than the previous generation. Thankfully. If it did this board would be DOA (just as its predecessor was).


The stress test has higher power usage for 12th gen CPUs because the GPU is less bottlenecked with 12th gen CPUs so can run faster. All the CPU-only benchmarks show that the 12th gen processors use less power than their 11th gen counterparts.

Some very high end boards only have 2 memory slots. i wonder why that is.
It's better for memory stability when overclocking. If you have 4 memory slots, signals can "overshoot" and reflect from the the other slot within each channel, and cause interference. Having fewer memory traces also means you can give them better shielding. This means that motherboards with only 2 memory slots normally support much higher memory speeds than similar motherboards with the same number of PCB layers but with 4 slots.

On Die Termination mitigates the interference, but doesn't completely prevent it, and if you don't have a DIMM in the second slot it will make very little difference.

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Source: https://blog.csdn.net/velanjun/article/details/79460670
 

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2 DIMMs are only goood for the most basic POS's of PC's, like a office PC, and if you ever wanted to upgrade you gotta spend twice as much for the RAM, 4DIMMS is always the best way to go.
VRM cooling again is something people dont think of till they put in a more power CPU and realise its under performing, again only good for the most basic POS office PC's. Plenty of youtube Videos showing how bad these budget Motherboards are with higher end CPUs
wrt "2 DIMMS are only good for most basic PCs." AL architecture says otherwise, as the memory controller is 128-bit. Put more than 2 DIMMS in, and you sacrifice performance and maximum frequency. That's why OC boards like Apex only have 2 DIMM slots. Also you can get 32GB DIMMS in DDR4 and DDR5, so that's 64GB, well beyond the domain of an office PC and whats required for gaming

Who is putting a high power K SKU CPU in an $85 motherboard besides youtubers? This is a budget board, and the cost down CPUs it supports aren't going to stress these vrms to the point where they would need a heatsink.
 

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There is nothing wrong with these boards for a probably pretty good cheap gaming rig. 12400/2x8gb and 3060(maybe) and it will be pretty good.
 
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Some very high end boards only have 2 memory slots. i wonder why that is. /s (sarcastic)

Asrock Z590 OC formula only has 2 DIMM slots. Your sarcasm has an element of truth!
 
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Asrock Z590 OC formula only has 2 DIMM slots. Your sarcasm has an element of truth!
that's because it OCs better, as mentioned above.
 
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