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I can't believe you would pick the MS store over Epic to disdain. As a platform it is inert, there is nothing that the platform does to make the experience any different than Steam, GOG, Uplay or the 2 objectively worst services The MS Store and Origin in terms of how games are bought and installed by the end user. The biggest thing for me for these is that each has their pros and cons to varying degrees. As an example I bought Assassin's Creed Odyssey ( Well RX 570) and was given every other Assassin's creed game with the exception of Origins by Uplay. Epic gives you free games every couple weeks (they are not garbage games either). The reason why I say the MS store and Origin are worse is because of the stupid hardware restrictions on Origin and just the way the MS store functions in the background. Regardless the best platform for buying games is Humble Monthly anyway.
I have an Xbox so I already have an account, and I can use Game Pass, and it isn't software limitations that makes me want to avoid Epic.
 
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I have an Xbox so I already have an account, and I can use Game Pass, and it isn't software limitations that makes me want to avoid Epic.
So what is it then?
 
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Interesting, you seem to think that Epic has no good practices when they offer users free games every 2 weeks. It has already been talked about all over about, the fact that they allow publishers to keep more of their money. They want the developer community and not the gamers to move from Steam or least give them some competition so that they can keep more of the money from sales of their own creations. They are now trying to go the route of exclusives just like MS, Origin and even Uplay yet they are using bad business practices? I am not fan of the Epic store because at the end of the day it is just a platform to buy and play games.
 
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Interesting, you seem to think that Epic has no good practices when they offer users free games every 2 weeks. It has already been talked about all over about, the fact that they allow publishers to keep more of their money. They want the developer community and not the gamers to move from Steam or least give them some competition so that they can keep more of the money from sales of their own creations. They are now trying to go the route of exclusives just like MS, Origin and even Uplay yet they are using bad business practices? I am not fan of the Epic store because at the end of the day it is just a platform to buy and play games.
Offering free games is not good practice, it's actually a bad one, considering they're only doing it in order to get more people on their side. As i said elsewhere, i don't care to pay for my games if the deserve it, i'm actually happy to. Nice try tho.
 
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Offering free games is not good practice, it's actually a bad one, considering they're only doing it in order to get more people on their side. As i said elsewhere, i don't care to pay for my games if the deserve it, i'm actually happy to. Nice try tho.
Interesting thought process. The Humble Trove is a gift for monthly subscribers that has some killer games (Torchlight 2) DRM free and financially free too is the bad? You could say the same thing about all of the other platforms because even Steam gives you free games at times. I am willing to bet that you won't say the same thing about "Free to Play".
 
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Wow, such a good practice lmao.
Hm, one would think that a pro-consumer practice would've been applauded, or at the very least acknowledged. Alas, some people are just way too determined to loathe everything that comes from Epic... because... reasons and stuff.

I would bet money that if Epic were to dissolve their company tomorrow, and donate all of their money to charities, cancer research, etc., there would still be people (here) that would say how bad that is, because it is... well... Epic, and Epic is pure evil.

The double standard is mind blowing. If Epic does something, it's bad. If anyone else does it, it's fine. Why? Because Epic, duh!!
 
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Interesting, you seem to think that Epic has no good practices when they offer users free games every 2 weeks. It has already been talked about all over about, the fact that they allow publishers to keep more of their money. They want the developer community and not the gamers to move from Steam or least give them some competition so that they can keep more of the money from sales of their own creations. They are now trying to go the route of exclusives just like MS, Origin and even Uplay yet they are using bad business practices? I am not fan of the Epic store because at the end of the day it is just a platform to buy and play games.
Awful, awful business practices...

You two seem to be putting your own spin on what I'm saying.
 
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Interesting thought process. The Humble Trove is a gift for monthly subscribers that has some killer games (Torchlight 2) DRM free and financially free too is the bad? You could say the same thing about all of the other platforms because even Steam gives you free games at times. I am willing to bet that you won't say the same thing about "Free to Play".
The difference with steam and the others is that they aren't trying desperately to get people on their platform or even on their side, free steam games are something not that old actually, they started doing it several years after they launched, and although it started with games with microtransactions, it was never really an excuse to get people on the platform, as the platform was big already, and it was in constant growth and not thanks to free games, they never needed that, and they never used that like EGS is doing, so well.


Hm, one would think that a pro-consumer practice would've been applauded, or at the very least acknowledged. Alas, some people are just way too determined to loathe everything that comes from Epic... because... reasons and stuff.
At this point yes, everything, even the slight attempt will look bad, there's no coming back from what they're doing, and from what they WERE doing before this, and abandoned everything just for sheer greed. Most enthusiast gamers, like to reward when deserved, and as of now Epic and their store deserve nothing.

I would bet money that if Epic were to dissolve their company tomorrow, and donate all of their money to charities, cancer research, etc., there would still be people (here) that would say how bad that is, because it is... well... Epic, and Epic is pure evil.

The double standard is mind blowing. If Epic does something, it's bad. If anyone else does it, it's fine. Why? Because Epic, duh!!
Yeah that'd be easy, for that to happen there would be reasons, because that wouldn't happen over the night, especially to a SH like Epic, because otherwise they wouldn't be this desperate.
 
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You two seem to be putting your own spin on what I'm saying.
I cannot speak for kapone32. I was simply demonstrating that Epic has business practices that are commendable. And that isn't the only example.

I am under no illusion that Epic is altruistic and cares deeply about me, or any of their customers for that matter. Epic is a huge company that looks at me as a potential customer, and nothing more. Epic is all about profit. Just like every single other similar company out there.

The interesting part is that a ton of people seem to believe that Valve is somehow different and "cares more". Somehow, Valve has secured a lot of people's loyalty to such an extent, that said people are ignoring facts, and are applying a double standard. It's almost like a cult.
 
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I cannot speak for kapone32. I was simply demonstrating that Epic has business practices that are commendable. And that isn't the only example.

I am under no illusion that Epic is altruistic and cares deeply about me, or any of their customers for that matter. Epic is a huge company that looks at me as a potential customer, and nothing more. Epic is all about profit. Just like every single other similar company out there.

The interesting part is that a ton of people seem to believe that Valve is somehow different and "cares more". Somehow, Valve has secured a lot of people's loyalty to such an extent, that said people are ignoring facts, and are applying a double standard. It's almost like a cult.
Wrong, not everyone is ALL about profit, valve surely is/was among these, they do (or did) care more. What facts? Who's ignoring facts here are all of you Epic guys, you people should stop playing contrarian just for the sake of it.
 
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Wrong, not everyone is ALL about profit, valve surely is/was among these, they do (or did) care more. What facts? Who's ignoring facts here are all of you Epic guys, you people should stop playing contrarian just for the sake of it.
If Valve isn't all about profit, what haven't they invested their money on... oh, I don't know... developing games? They have the resources. All of their single player games are beloved, and all of their multiplayer games are played by millions of people, so I would also assume they have the talent/people to create new games. Hell, they don't even have to come up with anything on their own. Just take someone else's promising concept, and make a good game out of it. Just like they have done with most of their games.

And we, "Epic guys" are not contrarian for the sake of it. I guess, we simply manage to see the bigger picture, and are able to think rationally and objectively. If anything, it's the zealous Valve/Steam defenders who are foaming at the mouth when talking about Epic.
 
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I cannot speak for kapone32. I was simply demonstrating that Epic has business practices that are commendable. And that isn't the only example.

I am under no illusion that Epic is altruistic and cares deeply about me, or any of their customers for that matter. Epic is a huge company that looks at me as a potential customer, and nothing more. Epic is all about profit. Just like every single other similar company out there.

The interesting part is that a ton of people seem to believe that Valve is somehow different and "cares more". Somehow, Valve has secured a lot of people's loyalty to such an extent, that said people are ignoring facts, and are applying a double standard. It's almost like a cult.
Everyone has pros and cons about them, I just find the way they've handled these exclusive deals to be in bad taste, it's why I just don't want to be apart of it.
 
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It worked out well on TW3. GOG is where they sold the most copies. More than on Steam and more than the consoles.

I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see the same result with Cyberpunk 2077.
GOG has one disticnt advantage - no DRM! I still respect them deeply for that, and that alone.
 

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Hm, one would think that a pro-consumer practice would've been applauded, or at the very least acknowledged.
Especially since aside from exclusives, the lack of regional pricing was one of the biggest complaints. Now they have it, on schedule per their list of deadlines to improve EGS, and it’s crap apparently.
 
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If Valve isn't all about profit, what haven't they invested their money on... oh, I don't know... developing games? They have the resources. All of their single player games are beloved, and all of their multiplayer games are played by millions of people, so I would also assume they have the talent/people to create new games. Hell, they don't even have to come up with anything on their own. Just take someone else's promising concept, and make a good game out of it. Just like they have done with most of their games.

And we, "Epic guys" are not contrarian for the sake of it. I guess, we simply manage to see the bigger picture, and are able to think rationally and objectively. If anything, it's the zealous Valve/Steam defenders who are foaming at the mouth when talking about Epic.
They are developing games, they're even developing hardware, they are working on VR because probably they see it as the next big thing, and even if i'm not excited as they seem to be fixated, i believe them, because when they launched their stuff, there was nothing like it, and it inspired the whole industry one way or another. If they were as desperate for money as Epic they would start making their own game for kids, probably a battle royale game, but no, they kept their heads on VR and invested millions on it even if they could be wrong and basically toss all in the trash can, they like to revolutionize, and innovate, even if it means investing tons of money, they've proven that multiple times, they're no Epic or EA or Ubisoft or Bethesda, there's nobody i can think that comes close to what valve is and has done, not even Blizzard. They're not perfect, far from it, they have their problems, as seen recently, but again, if there's one SH i'd trust blindly it's them, with everything they do.

You don't manage to see what's in front of you and yet you claim you manage to see the bigger picture...Come on, be serious please, EGS is a cancerous platform, and Epic has turned into the worst possible SH there could be.
 
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I agree that there is a "Steam" issue but I'm very hesitant on joining in on the exclusive release trend. If it works the way Tim Sweeney wants it to and the prices drop it would be a great thing but because no one can read the future I'm torn as to what way is best to go about making it fair for developers and distributors. Since Steam has become more prevalent in the distributor market, 2008 and after, the prices of games have risen 20%, going from $50 USD to $60 USD in most cases, not including DLC's which most times double the cost to have the full game. This is an issue for sure but for now we are left with "what is", which is higher prices, till things change, which is exactly what Epic is trying to do but who knows if this is the best direction? Surely it's not me that's for sure.

I am under no illusion that Epic is altruistic and cares deeply about me, or any of their customers for that matter. Epic is a huge company that looks at me as a potential customer, and nothing more. Epic is all about profit. Just like every single other similar company out there.

The interesting part is that a ton of people seem to believe that Valve is somehow different and "cares more". Somehow, Valve has secured a lot of people's loyalty to such an extent, that said people are ignoring facts, and are applying a double standard. It's almost like a cult.
Well said sir! Steam/Valve are just as bad as Epic in all the same ways, except some really believe it is better to stay with the devil we already know, like a Cult following...
 
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I just want to clear up that I am not saying that Epic is better than Steam or that I believe they are an altruistic company. I was only responding to in (my opinion) the wrong thought process that because Epic is doing what they can to killing Steam instead of get a share of the market. I have been a PC gamer for a long time. I was against Steam when I first encountered it because I was so used to having a disk and not having to have any online presence to play a game. Times have changed and online is the norm now so regardless of Steam, Epic, Uplay, Origin, GOG and the MS Store they all have the same core parameters. Epic is trying to distinguish themselves by highlighting to the audience the differences in how they administer their platform vs Steam and it is nothing but a win for the consumer.
 
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