Epic game store is epic at spying on you

[64K]

You can keep rephrasing it but maybe you should just not do this?

Self importance...?! Not at all. If that is what you took from that... cliffs notes aren't enough for you. Check the topic title - and here we are @ page 8 talking about phones that track you when they're off. Context

Inquiring minds want to know.

And the self-importance comment was aimed at you sir.

 

[Vayra86]

Inquiring minds want to know.

And the self-importance comment was aimed at you sir.

Point taken

 

[64K]

I have a lot of respect for you Vayra86. You have a lot of knowledge and experience about tech and you are a big asset to this site.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I have a lot of respect for you Vayra86. You have a lot of knowledge and experience about tech and you are a big asset to this site.

I have to agree with this.

 

[R-T-B]

I'll be frank: I didn't even really know what the subject was when I replied. I just dislike the idea that security can't be managed. It's a myth.

Sorry for going offtopic.

 

[moproblems99]

I'll be frank: I didn't even really know what the subject was when I replied. I just dislike the idea that security can't be managed. It's a myth.

Sorry for going offtopic.

There is a lot of common sense in security and privacy which is why it is so hard for people to grasp and manage.

Common sense isn't as common as it used to be.

 

[R-T-B]

Common sense isn't as common as it used to be

I don't think it ever was. Should be called "uncommon sense" lol

 

[Valantar]

I hadn't read the thread in awhile was just responding to people above me. Sorry for wanting to catch up on this topic a bit. I will never read older topics that interest me ever again, you are right, terrible idea. Always has to be shiny new things!!!

Nobody had read the thread in a while - it died four months ago. Discussions tend to peter put after a while. Attempting to resurrect them long after the fact while bringing nothing substantially new to the table is... rather odd, yes. Particularly when, as in this case, what is said is a self-contradictory mess that seems to try to punch every which way while hitting nobody. Not to mention that your attempted thread resurrection was broad enough to be off-topic. Why not start a new thread for a more broad discussion of privacy in the era of big data?

 

[Space Lynx]

Nobody had read the thread in a while - it died four months ago. Discussions tend to peter put after a while. Attempting to resurrect them long after the fact while bringing nothing substantially new to the table is... rather odd, yes. Particularly when, as in this case, what is said is a self-contradictory mess that seems to try to punch every which way while hitting nobody. Not to mention that your attempted thread resurrection was broad enough to be off-topic. Why not start a new thread for a more broad discussion of privacy in the era of big data?

I was responding to the person above me, didn't even look at the date to be honest. I suppose you can request a moderator close the topic, but I had something to say and so I said it, sorry if it upset you, take care now.

 

[looks]

no surprise at all, they have chinese tencent money, just like reddit.

 

[Valantar]

I was responding to the person above me, didn't even look at the date to be honest. I suppose you can request a moderator close the topic, but I had something to say and so I said it, sorry if it upset you, take care now.

It didn't upset me, it just didn't make sense (due to being completely self-contradictory), something you seem to refuse to address - which is also why I keep bringing this up, as you seem to refuse to actually talk about this. Oh well. This discussion is long since dead, so I suppose we can leave it at that. Also, if you're responding to the person directly above you in a 7-page thread, I'd recommend quoting or @'ing them to make that clear. Useful stuff for making long discussions easier to parse.

 

[Space Lynx]

no surprise at all, they have chinese tencent money, just like reddit.

Only 5 posts since 2013, that is impressive. lol wow, you actually might be the oldest account with that few amount of posts on the entire site... just a hardcore lurker? lol

 

[dorsetknob]

Phones cannot be tracked if the Battery is Removed.
"O wait who started the built in craze of non removable battery's"
If You are "THAT PARANOID" buy and use a phone that has a removable/replaceable Battery
they are still available.

 

[64K]

Only 5 posts since 2013, that is impressive. lol wow, you actually might be the oldest account with that few amount of posts on the entire site... just a hardcore lurker? lol

Twice I have seen members here with accounts 10 years old or older make their first post.

 

[rtwjunkie]

no surprise at all, they have chinese tencent money, just like reddit.

Actually no. The information is available publicly if you look. Tencent money was used to expand the company and get Fortnite off the ground. All income since the investment has been by Epic. In fact money flows the other way, sharing the profits with Tencent, as per their agreement.

 

[R-T-B]

Phones cannot be tracked if the Battery is Removed.
"O wait who started the built in craze of non removable battery's"
If You are "THAT PARANOID" buy and use a phone that has a removable/replaceable Battery
they are still available.

You don't need to be. A shutdown is a shutdown.

 

[Valantar]

You don't need to be. A shutdown is a shutdown.

Also, if one is sufficiently paranoid, why not just stick the phone in a Faraday bag?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Just because a device appears to be shutdown doesn't mean it is. That's why they say remove the battery. If you can't remove the power source, the device could be transmitting. It doesn't take much power for a device to intermittently ping which is sufficient to track it and most likely won't be noticed by the device owner.

This is all way off topic anyway. Epic Games Store client doesn't do anything out of the ordinary anymore.

 

[Valantar]

Just because a device appears to be shutdown doesn't mean it is. That's why they say remove the battery. If you can't remove the power source, the device could be transmitting. It doesn't take much power for a device to intermittently ping which is sufficient to track it and most likely won't be noticed by the device owner.

This is all way off topic anyway. Epic Games Store client doesn't do anything out of the ordinary anymore.

While what you're saying is true, the device would need to be infected with malware for that to happen - in which case the privacy ship has kind of sailed, no?

 

[moproblems99]

I don't think it ever was. Should be called "uncommon sense" lol

No, it used to be common. For instance, we used to know that coffee was hot after it was brewed and we needed to give it some time to cool down. Now, we have labels that say not to drink it until it cools down. Sure, McD's coffee was similar to the temps inside a nuclear reactor, but it was probably obvious from touching the cup that you shouldn't drink it.

Sure, that isn't the best example but you can clearly see the commonality of common sense becoming uncommon over the decades.

Also, if one is sufficiently paranoid, why not just stick the phone in a Faraday bag?

Clearly because the Faraday brand doesn't have the designs or name that Louis does. A bag for a phone must be fashionable first, functional second.

 

[R-T-B]

No, it used to be common. For instance, we used to know that coffee was hot after it was brewed and we needed to give it some time to cool down. Now, we have labels that say not to drink it until it cools down. Sure, McD's coffee was similar to the temps inside a nuclear reactor, but it was probably obvious from touching the cup that you shouldn't drink it.

You know the reason is someone from the "used to know" generation likely got burned and sued, right?

 

[Space Lynx]

Twice I have seen members here with accounts 10 years old or older make their first post.

I would love to meet one of these people someday irl, that level of lurking is just so bizarre to me lol

 

[lexluthermiester]

I would love to meet one of these people someday irl, that level of lurking is just so bizarre to me lol

It's more likely to be a shadow account for a regular user.

 

[johnspack]

Jeez, both epic and steam spy on you continuously... win10 does the same. Pick your poison, but don't b-tch about it. I don't complain about win10 because I switched to linux. Solved. I don't like epic, it doesn't even run under linux, solved. Steam for linux... well, I have most of the older windows games they offer, and can run them just fine under wine. Solved. Use what you need and accept the bs, or walk away from it.

 

[moproblems99]

You know the reason is someone from the "used to know" generation likely got burned and sued, right?

Sure, definitely. That is why I said it wasn't the best example. But anybody that has been wading through real life for a few decades has seen the change. Slow at first and gradually speeding up.