• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney Calls For Unified Digital Games Store

Joined
Mar 10, 2010
Messages
9,716 (2.24/day)
Location
Manchester uk
System Name RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II/Trig
Processor Amd R5 5600G/ Intel 8750H/3800X
Motherboard Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus/crosshair hero 7
Cooling 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK
Memory Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB
Video Card(s) Sapphire refference Rx vega 64 EK waterblocked/Rtx 2060/GTX 1060
Storage Silicon power 1TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme
Display(s) Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dellshiter
Case Lianli p0-11 dynamic/strix scar2/aero cool shiter
Audio Device(s) Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset
Power Supply corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock /850 watt ?
Mouse Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless
Keyboard Roccat Aimo 120
VR HMD Oculus rift
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506
There are other ways besides piracy, it's promotion is not on here either.
I feel similar about DRM.

I just don't buy.

I just don't play.

Life goes on yet I committed no crime, just stood my ethical ground.

As for Sweeny's. Latest market grab attempt F him , he's not out for my best interest but his own.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

bug

Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
9,792 (4.02/day)
Processor Intel i5-6600k (AMD Ryzen5 3600 in a box, waiting for a mobo)
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Extreme7+
Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer i11
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V (@3200)
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 3TB Seagate
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s) Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
Software Arch Linux + Win10
His idea of shared ownership across multiple devices is the first consumer friendly comment I have read he said.

However as others pointed out his fairy tale scenario has Epic running this store as a monopoly.

I believe Microsoft are already adopting multi platform for Windows/Xbox.
Steam already do for Windows/Linux.

Not sure what Sony are doing, they tend to be more anti consumer though so wouldnt be surprised if they keep to separate licenses.

We unlikely to see a shared ownership under competing consoles.
The thing is, uniting stores does next to nothing for the consumer. I mean, really, I buy a game on Steam an launch it with the Epic launcher? I buy it from EA and get it patched by GOG Galaxy? That's nothing.

There are two things I'd be interested in: making do with only one client app and being able to buy once, play everywhere (be it a console or PC). Stores could come up with some federation API to address the former, but they'll never deliver the latter.
 
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
17,255 (5.52/day)
Location
USA
I disagree.

Good ol' Games.

GoG

Change my mind.
Good Old Games was the preivious name of the platform. However their current platform name is " GOG ".
Haven't heard that name in quite a while, probably half a decade since I last tried to visit.
Then you've missed out on the best digital game store on the planet. I invite you to pay a visit and remind yourself of the bliss of DRM-Free gaming.
 
  • Love
Reactions: bug

95Viper

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 12, 2008
Messages
10,414 (2.15/day)
Stay on topic.
Stop insulting others.
Stop the piracy posting.

Thank You.
 
Joined
Nov 20, 2013
Messages
5,160 (1.73/day)
Location
Kiev, Ukraine
System Name WS#1337
Processor Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard ASUS X570-PLUS TUF Gaming
Cooling Xigmatek Scylla 240mm AIO
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Ares OEM DDR4-3200 (B-die)
Video Card(s) Inno3D RTX 3070 Ti iChill
Storage Adata SX8200 Pro 1TB
Display(s) Samsung U24E590D (4K/UHD)
Case ghetto CM Cosmos RC-1000
Audio Device(s) ALC1220
Power Supply SeaSonic SSR-550FX (80+ GOLD)
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Modecom Volcano Blade (Kailh choc LP)
Software Windows 10, Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
Not sure what Sony are doing, they tend to be more anti consumer though so wouldnt be surprised if they keep to separate licenses.
I think the whole idea was conceived jointly with Sony. There were few dead giveaways, like releasing formerly PS-exclusive titles on Epic out of the blue, and pumping a hefty $200M investment into EGS.
Streaming(cloud gaming) didn't work for either Sony or Microsoft, but GamePass worked and Sony had no answer for it. Won't be surprised if this whole thing will end up as subscription service.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
16,027 (5.97/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor i7 8700k 4.6Ghz @ 1.24V
Motherboard AsRock Fatal1ty K6 Z370
Cooling beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200/C16
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X @ 2100/5500
Storage Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 830 256GB + Crucial BX100 250GB + Toshiba 1TB HDD
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Fractal Design Define C TG
Audio Device(s) Situational :)
Power Supply EVGA G2 750W
Mouse Logitech G502 Protheus Spectrum
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II (Best K/B ever... <3)
Software W10 x64
Who would house the platform?
How would that company get money to support that 1 platform?
How much money would it need to support that 1 platform?
How would that platform be regulated and who would regulate it?
Who would police and be able to hold companies accountable that try to launch their own platform over joining this one?
Simple. You create a single entity where everyone plays ball for a % of share.
You create a system that weighs % of share and a visibility rating on the store, so every publishers has a string of featured items they can push on the frontpage for example. Big money can pop up first, visibility can be measured over time and dynamically readjusted based on user habits.
You will need far less money than reinventing all the wheels involved (GDPR, authentication, license registration, account management, servers) for every separate platform if you are abstracting that into messaging systems between all platforms.
If you really wanted to, you could even have in-framed Steam, EGS, etc. Stores, so everyone can have their illusion of control.

I always think of a very simple example... the London Oyster card. This whole idea isn't new, it just requires people sticking their heads together.
 
Joined
Feb 1, 2019
Messages
420 (0.39/day)
Location
UK, Leicester
System Name Main PC
Processor 9900k@4.8ghz
Motherboard Asrock Fatality K6 Z370
Cooling Noctua NH-D15S
Memory 32 Gig 3200CL14
Video Card(s) 3080 RTX FE
Storage 970 EVO 1TB
Display(s) LG 27GL850
Case Fractal Define R4
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar D2X
Power Supply Antec HCG 750
The thing is, uniting stores does next to nothing for the consumer. I mean, really, I buy a game on Steam an launch it with the Epic launcher? I buy it from EA and get it patched by GOG Galaxy? That's nothing.

There are two things I'd be interested in: making do with only one client app and being able to buy once, play everywhere (be it a console or PC). Stores could come up with some federation API to address the former, but they'll never deliver the latter.
Well yeah first consider I didn't say uniting stores, I said uniting platforms.

You buy a game on PC, then can play it on PS5, Xbox etc. without buying it again, that's consumer friendly.
 

bug

Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
9,792 (4.02/day)
Processor Intel i5-6600k (AMD Ryzen5 3600 in a box, waiting for a mobo)
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Extreme7+
Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer i11
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V (@3200)
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 3TB Seagate
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s) Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
Software Arch Linux + Win10
Well yeah first consider I didn't say uniting stores, I said uniting platforms.

You buy a game on PC, then can play it on PS5, Xbox etc. without buying it again, that's consumer friendly.
True. I was commenting Tim's proposition.
 
Joined
Nov 20, 2013
Messages
5,160 (1.73/day)
Location
Kiev, Ukraine
System Name WS#1337
Processor Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard ASUS X570-PLUS TUF Gaming
Cooling Xigmatek Scylla 240mm AIO
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Ares OEM DDR4-3200 (B-die)
Video Card(s) Inno3D RTX 3070 Ti iChill
Storage Adata SX8200 Pro 1TB
Display(s) Samsung U24E590D (4K/UHD)
Case ghetto CM Cosmos RC-1000
Audio Device(s) ALC1220
Power Supply SeaSonic SSR-550FX (80+ GOLD)
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Modecom Volcano Blade (Kailh choc LP)
Software Windows 10, Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
Sure, if you don't care about your privacy. But if you do, it's a shitshow everywhere but GOG.
A bit ironic that your response also has a counterargument in it. Concerned about privacy - here's your option on a silver plate. 21st century. Good times.
What's also funny, is that GOG Galaxy is 100 times more functional than EGS, even though its barely used by GOG users.

Because I don't want Steam or Origin using 10% of my cpu and making my game performance worse. Yes it happens even on 16t cpus, that has been tested. Quake Champions, for example, has a 15% performance Hit by running with steam compared with self launcher you get from bethesda
That's another load of BS that I've missed.
1. The only launcher that had such issues is EGS. Right now I'm running Steam in the background, along with several messengers and even Nicehash, and my CPU usage sits comfortably at 1% (R7 3800X). Steam itself barely ever gets above 0.1% even when it's active.
2. Been playing since close beta up until they've decided to shrink the server base, and never heard of any issues on steam, especially that dramatic. I know in early versions there were stability issues with Steam overlay, but it can(and should) be disabled. AFAIK 99.9% of performance issues in QC are quake-related, not Steam-related.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Nov 20, 2013
Messages
5,160 (1.73/day)
Location
Kiev, Ukraine
System Name WS#1337
Processor Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard ASUS X570-PLUS TUF Gaming
Cooling Xigmatek Scylla 240mm AIO
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Ares OEM DDR4-3200 (B-die)
Video Card(s) Inno3D RTX 3070 Ti iChill
Storage Adata SX8200 Pro 1TB
Display(s) Samsung U24E590D (4K/UHD)
Case ghetto CM Cosmos RC-1000
Audio Device(s) ALC1220
Power Supply SeaSonic SSR-550FX (80+ GOLD)
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Modecom Volcano Blade (Kailh choc LP)
Software Windows 10, Ubuntu 20.04 LTS

Ahhzz

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Feb 27, 2008
Messages
7,860 (1.55/day)
System Name Ironic
Processor Intel 2500k 4.4Ghz
Motherboard ASROCK|Z68 PROFESSIONAL Gen 3
Cooling Corsair H60
Memory 32GB GSkill Ripjaw X 1866
Video Card(s) Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X 4Gb
Storage Samsung 860 EVO 1Tb/WD BLACK SN750 500GB NVMe
Display(s) 22" Dell Wide/ 22" Acer wide/24" Asus
Case Antec Lanboy Air Black & Blue
Audio Device(s) SB Audigy 7.1
Power Supply Corsair Enthusiast TX750
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum
Keyboard K68 RGB — CHERRY® MX Red
Software Win 7 Ult 64 bit
Excuse me, Gentlepeople. This is not a playground. This is not a hacking convention. This is not a pissing competition. Find the original topic, or receive points.
 
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
17,255 (5.52/day)
Location
USA
What's also funny, is that GOG Galaxy is 100 times more functional than EGS
This is true. I've tried it out. Not really a fan, but I like it better than the Steam or Epic client.

even though its barely used by GOG users.
There are a fair number of GOG users that install the Galaxy client, but it's certainly less than the 100% required by Steam or Epic.

Excuse me, Gentlepeople. This is not a playground. This is not a hacking convention. This is not a pissing competition. Find the original topic, or receive points.
Sorry about that, didn't see your comment until I'd already posted mine...
 

pipiteam

New Member
Joined
Dec 11, 2021
Messages
1 (0.02/day)
I think what he meant is a store where if you buy a title, you can play it on xbox/pc/ps5 etc. Right now its too messy and he is right.
 
Joined
Feb 1, 2019
Messages
420 (0.39/day)
Location
UK, Leicester
System Name Main PC
Processor 9900k@4.8ghz
Motherboard Asrock Fatality K6 Z370
Cooling Noctua NH-D15S
Memory 32 Gig 3200CL14
Video Card(s) 3080 RTX FE
Storage 970 EVO 1TB
Display(s) LG 27GL850
Case Fractal Define R4
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar D2X
Power Supply Antec HCG 750
Price of FF7 remake o_O, this is with the larger developer share, so as usual no savings passed on.

I wonder what the sales will be like as I think FF7 remake is quite possibly the biggest test for this store, as I understand it Kingdom Hearts sales are really bad.
 
Joined
Jun 20, 2008
Messages
2,648 (0.53/day)
Location
Northants. UK
System Name Bad Moon Ryzen
Processor Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asrock B450M Pro4-F
Cooling Vetroo V5
Memory Crucial Ballistix 32Gb (8gb x 4) 3200 MHz DDR 4
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GAMING Z TRIO 8GB LHR
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb, Samsung 860 Evo 500Gb,WD Black 8Tb, WD Blue 2Tb
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG270bmiix & 4K Samsung TV
Case Corsair Carbide 88R Windowed
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 650w
VR HMD Rift S
Before he starts spouting all this good soul rhetoric maybe he should think about addressing the numerous shortcomings the Epic store displays. It's a pathetic sham of an experience from a company that is basically printing out money at the moment. All that money for exclusives and a storefront/user experience that sucks the big one. There are various reasons why people still remain Steam loyal, one of them being the user experience is fantastic. Regular updates and innovations, accessible community discussion and groups etc etc I could go on and on.
 
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
17,255 (5.52/day)
Location
USA
Before he starts spouting all this good soul rhetoric maybe he should think about addressing the numerous shortcomings the Epic store displays. It's a pathetic sham of an experience from a company that is basically printing out money at the moment. All that money for exclusives and a storefront/user experience that sucks the big one. There are various reasons why people still remain Steam loyal, one of them being the user experience is fantastic. Regular updates and innovations, accessible community discussion and groups etc etc I could go on and on.
Oh can we please not start this nonsense? Steam has MORE than it's fair share of problems. So let that go...
 
Joined
Jun 20, 2008
Messages
2,648 (0.53/day)
Location
Northants. UK
System Name Bad Moon Ryzen
Processor Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asrock B450M Pro4-F
Cooling Vetroo V5
Memory Crucial Ballistix 32Gb (8gb x 4) 3200 MHz DDR 4
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GAMING Z TRIO 8GB LHR
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb, Samsung 860 Evo 500Gb,WD Black 8Tb, WD Blue 2Tb
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG270bmiix & 4K Samsung TV
Case Corsair Carbide 88R Windowed
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 650w
VR HMD Rift S
Oh can we please not start this nonsense? Steam has MORE than it's fair share of problems. So let that go...
Not nonsense, fact. Also, if I want to state my opinion in a relevant thread I will, so let it go.
 
Joined
Jun 20, 2008
Messages
2,648 (0.53/day)
Location
Northants. UK
System Name Bad Moon Ryzen
Processor Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asrock B450M Pro4-F
Cooling Vetroo V5
Memory Crucial Ballistix 32Gb (8gb x 4) 3200 MHz DDR 4
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GAMING Z TRIO 8GB LHR
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb, Samsung 860 Evo 500Gb,WD Black 8Tb, WD Blue 2Tb
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG270bmiix & 4K Samsung TV
Case Corsair Carbide 88R Windowed
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 650w
VR HMD Rift S
Fixed that for you.

Now see, there you go.

Aww, that was cute.

Do you have anything constructive to add or did you join in just to rag on Epic?
I'm sorry you can't handle an alternative opinion. I made my point loud and clear and you missed it.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Ahhzz

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Feb 27, 2008
Messages
7,860 (1.55/day)
System Name Ironic
Processor Intel 2500k 4.4Ghz
Motherboard ASROCK|Z68 PROFESSIONAL Gen 3
Cooling Corsair H60
Memory 32GB GSkill Ripjaw X 1866
Video Card(s) Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X 4Gb
Storage Samsung 860 EVO 1Tb/WD BLACK SN750 500GB NVMe
Display(s) 22" Dell Wide/ 22" Acer wide/24" Asus
Case Antec Lanboy Air Black & Blue
Audio Device(s) SB Audigy 7.1
Power Supply Corsair Enthusiast TX750
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum
Keyboard K68 RGB — CHERRY® MX Red
Software Win 7 Ult 64 bit
Petty squabbling should stop. Present your most heartfelt, ardently held opinion as opinion, present facts with verifiable data, and communicate as adults, or leave the room.
 
Top