Epic Games Gives Mesmerizing Look at Unreal Engine 5 Running Real Time on PlayStation 5

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Consoles are on par with computers too.

If that was the case, they wouldnt be locked at 30 FPS, have outdated hardware, and they would have SSD's built into them. And im not including the series x in that statement as it's not out yet.

 

[bizzmeister]

Shit looks incredible ( as it always does ) but we'll wait for the ACTUAL in game stuff we'll be seeing soon enough.

 

[ARF]

The thing in which consoles will probably exceed the computers performance is the SSD speed.

Unreal Engine 5 Demo Is Rendering at 1440P Most of the Time on PS5; RTX 2070 Super Could Run It at 'Pretty Good Performance'

Epic shared a lot of information on the stunning Unreal Engine 5 demo, such as the rendering resolution on PS5 and how well would PC run it.

wccftech.com

 

[PowerPC]

I am not really optimistic that visuals will get much better now if at all, this is where we truly hit walls.

What do you mean by visuals...? There's a lot more to visuals than just detailed models, textures and lighting. There's room in game physics for the next 30 years at least, which will improve how the game visually looks and realism immensely.. All you see in most games are just solid blocks that you can't interact with without writing special code for every little interaction. This is going to be the next big thing and in the next years this will lead to games looking so much more realistic than this tech demo.

Just like the physics in this game improve the visuals

 

[Makaveli]

Its a tech demo.

Been doing this long enough that I will wait take to see an actual shipping product first before blowing my load like most are because oo shiney lol.

The thing in which consoles will probably exceed the computers performance is the SSD speed.

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Unreal Engine 5 Demo Is Rendering at 1440P Most of the Time on PS5; RTX 2070 Super Could Run It at 'Pretty Good Performance'

Epic shared a lot of information on the stunning Unreal Engine 5 demo, such as the rendering resolution on PS5 and how well would PC run it.

wccftech.com

That will be very short lived as usual PC's are a moving target and console specs are the same for years until the next model in 5+ years time we have seen this before.

Nvme drive in my current system already does 5000Mb/sec reads and the PS5 drive is suppose to do about 5500Mb/sec.

The next revision of the SSD I have in my PC coming out towards the End of the Year will do 7000Mb/sec.

 

[Decryptor009]

If that was the case, they wouldnt be locked at 30 FPS, have outdated hardware, and they would have SSD's built into them. And im not including the series x in that statement as it's not out yet.

Who said they are locked at 30? what is outdated about these consoles? the GPU hardware is not even in the desktop space.

What do you mean by visuals...? There's a lot more to visuals than just detailed models, textures and lighting. There's room in game physics for the next 30 years at least, which will improve how the game visually looks and realism immensely.. All you see in most games are just solid blocks that you can't interact with without writing special code for every little interaction. This is going to be the next big thing and in the next years this will lead to games looking so much more realistic than this tech demo.

Just like the physics in this game improve the visuals

That barely exists on PC too.

LOL no, no they are not.

These ones are, welcome to reality.
Unless you are just talking for the 0.001% who can buy 2080 Super and Ti?

How is a console on par with a 64-core Threadripper or a 16-core Ryzen, and Radeon RX 5700 XT, or future Navi 21 that is as large as 505 sq. mm ?

5700-XT is not as good as RDNA2.

Threadripper is shit for gaming.

 

[Minus Infinity]

68% Don't think this is next gen, 34 people have voted, everyone's entitled to their opinion & here's mine.... Are you f..king BLIND?

I agree, what a sorry bunch still playing their crap low poly 1080p games. Secretly will be the first to line up for the next gen while slamming it online continually.

 

[ValenOne]

Who said they are locked at 30? what is outdated about these consoles? the GPU hardware is not even in the desktop space.


That barely exists on PC too.


These ones are, welcome to reality.
Unless you are just talking for the 0.001% who can buy 2080 Super and Ti?


5700-XT is not as good as RDNA2.

Threadripper is shit for gaming.

Zen 2 Threadripper is fine with gaming. https://www.techspot.com/review/1980-amd-threadripper-3990x/

 

[droopyRO]

It looks good. It won't look as good on most gaming PCs. But i kind of lost hope to see a similar upgrade to gameplay, game physics and story.

 

[Houd.ini]

That will be very short lived as usual PC's are a moving target and console specs are the same for years until the next model in 5+ years time we have seen this before.

Nvme drive in my current system already does 5000Mb/sec reads and the PS5 drive is suppose to do about 5500Mb/sec.

The next revision of the SSD I have in my PC coming out towards the End of the Year will do 7000Mb/sec.

What do you think would happen if they started making PC games as if everyone had 5000 Mb/s drives? At least for consoles, they will know absolutely everyone will have a drive the same speed, and can code for and exploit that.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Who said they are locked at 30? what is outdated about these consoles? the GPU hardware is not even in the desktop space.


That barely exists on PC too.


These ones are, welcome to reality.
Unless you are just talking for the 0.001% who can buy 2080 Super and Ti?


5700-XT is not as good as RDNA2.

Threadripper is shit for gaming.

 

[Makaveli]

What do you think would happen if they started making PC games as if everyone had 5000 Mb/s drives? At least for consoles, they will know absolutely everyone will have a drive the same speed, and can code for and exploit that.

I believe in this coming generation of consoles we will see plenty multi platform games and cross play games. So you may see some of those games running better on a PC with a Fast Nmve drive.

Your point about coding to a standard platform is correct but slowly becoming less of an issue. All of those incoming games will be optimized for AMD Cpu's and Gpu's.

 

[Decryptor009]

Shit looks incredible ( as it always does ) but we'll wait for the ACTUAL in game stuff we'll be seeing soon enough.

Except it's not, you seem to like delusional thinking...

If you are in the 0.001% who own a 2080Ti you are likely to be fine, but for anyoen else, these consoles are on par.

Zen 2 Threadripper is fine with gaming. https://www.techspot.com/review/1980-amd-threadripper-3990x/

Yes if you are an idiot that bought it for gaming, i never said it could not game, it is just objectively shit for that task and a waste of silicon.

 

[Totally]

I wonder what the 68% are actually expecting from next gen ? I mean okay, the star wars demo is insane, but it didn't showed a huge and detailed environement.

Star wars demo was actually pretty lame, just a bunch shiny stuff and refelections, but these U5 demo are just glorious.

 

[Vya Domus]

What do you think would happen if they started making PC games as if everyone had 5000 Mb/s drives? At least for consoles, they will know absolutely everyone will have a drive the same speed, and can code for and exploit that.

Sony and MS are obliviously tying to oversell the importance of really high speed SSDs. They are useful no doubt but the bulk of why they're so much better comes from the reduced latency not crazy high transfer rates and you can get that whether you're using a 600 mb/s SATA3 SSD or a 6 gb/s PCIe one.

I can't imagine why you'll need to saturate the bandwidth of those SSDs every single frame update or anything like that, despite what they suggest scenes remain static for a pretty long time.

 

[ValenOne]

Yes if you are an idiot that bought it for gaming, i never said it could not game, it is just objectively shit for that task and a waste of silicon.

Consumers can spend their own money within the law. Who are you to dictate another person's spending habits?

 

[InVasMani]

How is a console on par with a 64-core Threadripper or a 16-core Ryzen, and Radeon RX 5700 XT, or future Navi 21 that is as large as 505 sq. mm ?

A terrible console port in years past would be the answer to this in general. Far as the PS5 goes however apparently the storage in it is really fast and high end, but largely hype at the same time because NVMe for PCIe 4.0 is quite fast as well and I'm sure the PS5 is utilizing it being Ryzen based. Really anything PCIE 4.0 based should be capable of the same with the right storage setup. Additionally you've got a ramdisk and primo cache and like StoreMi that should exceed those levels. I think part of this is also to do with the fact AMD's GPU's are capable of HBCC and with these new storage systems that's a really big deal apparently.

 

[Hyderz]

Impressive showcase, but this is just the surface of what the engine is capable of...
its an environment with a single character, some light source and there is environment creatures.
so far from the video they show case how pretty light source can be and how beautiful the 8k environment textures are.
I think the latest pc spec can run this at 60 fps no problem..

but they didnt show for example like the character walking through a market where there is multiple characters around
tons of things to render for example, stalls, food, shadows, ai walking around in the back.
this will definitely require more cpu/gpu to run

 

[Pumper]

If you are in the 0.001% who own a 2080Ti you are likely to be fine, but for anyoen else, these consoles are on par.

Why do you keep talking about 2080Tis when Epic already said that a 2070S runs the demo with "Pretty Good Performance".

And what are you talking about when you say that "these consoles are on par"? They are not even out yet, and if the rumors of RTX3000 are true, by the time they are released a 3060 will beat them at everything.

 

[Vya Domus]

the rumors of RTX3000 are true, by the time they are released a 3060 will beat them at everything.

Don't hold you're breath. A 2070 for instance was barely any faster than a OC'd 1080 and no where near a Titan Xp and before that a 1070 was as fast as the previous Titan, the trend is in favor for consoles being on par for at least one more generation.

People thinking that a hypothetical RTX 3060 is going to be as fast as a current colossal 750 mm^2 GPU are awfully optimistic to say the least.

 

[ratirt]

I see people are comparing a console to a PC. Apples and oranges again. You don't compare these two with each other, even though the consoles have common computer parts. It's like comparing a monster truck to a pickup, which one is better.
Anyway.
The engine is nice and it looks great. Wonder if that is how the game will look or is it just for the marketing. either way the quality of the image is outstanding and lightning is great. if it runs at 60 FPS and looks like this, you may as well skip PC and move to console. At least, there will be less argues about graphics card issues etc.

 

[Pumper]

if it runs at 60 FPS and looks like this, you may as well skip PC and move to console. At least, there will be less argues about graphics card issues etc.

The demo was 1440p ("most of the time", meaning it went lower at some points) 30fps.

 

[Vya Domus]

The demo was 1440p ("most of the time", meaning it went lower at some points) 30fps.

Or higher ?

 

[ratirt]

The demo was 1440p ("most of the time", meaning it went lower at some points) 30fps.

And how do you know that it dropped below 60FPS (to 30FPS) or what was the actual FPS in that demo? I don't see any number given for the FPS and what was the actual FPS in that demo but if you have a concrete info about this please share. and please, don't tell me it's because you think it dropped below 60 or that is your opinion. 1440p most of the time? That means what? it was 1080p some other time or 720p or maybe it went up to 4k at some point?

 

[mak1skav]

Overall it looks amazing but I have to admit that the scene with the water still doesn't look so impressive to me. Also I think when I look closer, in some scenes the movements of the character look a little "plastic" and not so realistic. The effects of the light and the texture quality of the enviroment looks quite impressive in my opinion.