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But is that the reason EGS is unpopular? Or is it because of the massive hate campaign launched against them for daring to challenge the sacred and holy entity that is Gaben? Because it mostly sure looks like it's the latter. If you're claiming that most "never EGS" people have tried it and found it lacks features and is too barebones, rather than got swept up in an uproar over nothing, well... I disagree with that assessment. Wholeheartedly.Why did they fail, though? Probably the same reason why Epic is unpopular at the moment - they didn't offer anything of value over Steam. The market needs innovation, not another mainstream alternative.
Also, that argument to a large extent builds on the assumption that you can't (reasonably be expected to) use both. Which... of course you can. If you want Steam chat, community features, or anything else, we'll then Alt+Tab out of your EGS game and do so. It really isn't a big deal.
Nah, it's a tool of someone whose main resource is money, and who is fighting a decade+ incumbent. If your demands is that they offer something Steam doesn't offer (beyond specific games), then... what would that be? It would need to be mind-blowingly good to suddenly make EGS win in terms of features - and that kind of development effort takes years and years.I'd much prefer them to offer something of value instead. Exclusive deals are a money making tool of a company that doesn't have a better idea.
You're overstating the value of that benefit though. That's like saying it'd be good if Amazon just bought out every other store chain out there, as you'd have one storefront for everything. It's myopic and simplistic at best. And besides, GOG, Playnite and others offer unified cross-platform game libraries.It actually does benefit gamers - all your games and services integrated into one single launcher isn't a bad thing. I'm not taking sides, though, just trying to visualise the argument from both sides.
... because those 18% now go to the developer - i.e. the company providing by far the most benefit to the customer - instead of the company providing a storefront, a forum, a cloud save service and some other stuff? Like, what are you paying for, using Steam or playing games?And the 12% Cut benefits you as a customer because...?
That would make sense if the games were actually cheaper, but Games in EGS are still as expensive as on Steam or Origin. You might add that more of that cash will go toward developers, but we all know it's BS. Since most of that will actually go to the CEO, President or top execs.
And yes, executive salaries and bonuses are horrible. But how does that affect whether Steam or the developer deserves your money when buying a game?
Man, sorry, but aren't we allowed to argue for (or against) things? Nobody here has said anyone else is inferior, at least that I've seen. Saying someone's reasoning is weak or poor is not saying they are inferior. It's how things improve. If we can't challenge each others' opinions, how is anything ever going to evolve?What's really apparent is the people who have issues with why other people make their choices - pretty much if you don't think like them then you must be inferior. Just look through the thread...
Ironically I hated Steam when it first came out because I wanted to retain control over my games, but now I just want them all in one easy to manage library. If Epic wanted to compete with Steam they should come out with a better product instead of paying for exclusives and giving away games... that's not the way to build, all they are doing is trying to disrupt rather than innovate.
This is a silly and overblown taking to extremes of a hollow straw man argument. Arguing for the value of competition and the value of EGS as a realistic competitor to Steam is not arguing that people shouldn't use Steam. There are valid reasons to dislike Valve and Steam, and there are valid reasons to be unhappy with Epic's storefront. But presenting arguments for adopting multiple options as if they're arguing for dismissing previous options? Sorry, but that's just poor reading comprehension at best, or bad-faith misrepresentations of your opponents at worst. Either way it's inaccurate and not conducive to constructive debate.Yes, since the goal is to stop using successful software distribution platforms, maybe I should start using the Orgin store just to make a point...
Better yet, let's stop using Windows 10 and begin using Linux just to make point. Don't worry about using the operating system that supports you the most and provides the most content.
The goal is no longer to use the platform that offers the best experience, but to use the anti-platform to stick it to the big guy.
Funny how people go out of their way to find "alternatives", opting to use the platform that is basically still in beta. As far as software distribution platform rankings go, I would provide the following: Steam > Battle.net > Orgin > Epic.
Maybe by 2027 this will change.