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ES CPUs vs Retail... Also cadaveca is famous!

Did you believe Engineering samples were unfairly superior to Retail?


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He isn't really famous.
 
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He isn't really famous.
I got Millions of views... works on YouTube... :p

He isn't really famous.
More like infamous. First google result looking for "ES Intel CPU" provided the link with that post I bet.

@cadaveca should be demanding royalties

No thanks. Not sure how that'd work, anyway, or if there is even cause there. Maybe let's wait until he has 50 mil views on it and I'll try to get 0.01% of the $250 the video makes. :p Coool! That's a whole $2.50!
 

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More like infamous. First google result looking for "ES Intel CPU" provided the link with that post.

Good point, so I need to post "cdawall is cooler than cadaveca" so it pops up on there.
 

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I protest the poll. Polls should be neutral. I’m not sure how “unfairly” got injected in all this. It’s not like they are ever legally for sale, so if anyone gets an adavantage, if, it is at their own risk of ruining the cpu and a small advantage that they can’t usually share.
 

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It’s not like they are ever legally for sale

Well, actually, this is not entirely true. I could sell mine and Intel would not say anything. I technically have been given carte blanche to do whatever I want with my ES CPUs now. I cannot say everyone has this "clearance" though. I imagine all reviewers that get the CPUs direct from Intel have been given such these days, but I could be totally wrong.

Back several years ago, there were ES CPUs that some engineers went to jail for, but it seems those CPUs were stolen. So if you see a ES CPU listing.. does the user only have one or two? Probably a legit sale. Now if they have many, especially of the same type, it's probably NOT legit. So that whole post is quite the opposite of my current stance on ES CPUs.

I'm a bit more pissed that LTT didn't think to contact me first before using the post. They probably thought I'd never see it. :p LOL.

Good point, so I need to post "cdawall is cooler than cadaveca" so it pops up on there.

Then get the views that thread did, so it ranks in google higher than the one in question. Easy enough to do.
 

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Some might remember me selling trays upon trays if AMD phenom II 945ES chips.

That got me a visit from AMD. I never found out if they were stolen, but they did take any of the ES chips I had on hand and swap them for retail 955BE chips. The whole black suv showing up at my house with a folder in hand with long range photos was all a real thing.
 

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Some might remember me selling trays upon trays if AMD phenom II 945ES chips.

That got me a visit from AMD. I never found out if they were stolen, but they did take any of the ES chips I had on hand and swap them for retail 955BE chips. The whole black suv showing up at my house with a folder in hand with long range photos was all a real thing.

Now that's funny
 
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That video was made using a lot of engineering samples. I'll wait for the Retail version
 

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Regarding Es Samples
there are probably 2 classes of ES
Proof of concept class ( So Manafactures of motherboards can work on their designs ect)
Pre Production Class ( including Developments not in above class )
Cherry picked pre production CPU's are probably the ones made available to press and reviewers
 
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Cherry picked pre production CPU's are probably the ones made available to press and reviewers
out of all the es cpus ive had provided by intel for review (a dozen or so) all but one were worse than a random retail i bought of them.

Wasnt this the point of that LTT 'short' was to attempt to debunk that theory?
 

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I'll check out the video later. I like Linus's videos, especially because of the wacky presentation and humour.
 

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Cadaveca sent me some Intel CPUs for review (marked as ES ofc). The lady at customs thought TPU was an international industrial espionage ring, wouldn't let me touch the CPUs again and held them firmly in her hands so I couldn't grab them and run. She was super friendly in the end after getting a nice email from Intel :D
 
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I don't know but every time I watch Linus he seems to go 'even higher' with his voice when making a point.

Soon, he'll squeak!
 

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Oh Look! I have a ES 6700K and a retail 6700K, and if I did what Linus did with his video, it would show the complete OPPOSITE of what Linus' video does.


:roll:
Linus parody video would be a great way to ride that spark of fame :pimp:
 
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Oh Look! I have a ES 6700K and a retail 6700K, and if I did what Linus did with his video, it would show the complete OPPOSITE of what Linus' video does.


:roll:
Oh look, its the product of random samples of silicon!!! W00t!
 
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