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1080Ti is similar performance and has more VRAM, I usually won't recommend buying last-gen, but RTX series is so mediocre the 1080 Ti actually is a better card for the same price IMO. Keep in mind that many comparisons made with 2080 vs 1080ti are with AIB/Superior Founder Edition Dual Fan Cooler vs Reference blower throttling 1600-1700 MHz 1080 Ti. A custom 1080 Ti at 1900+ is going to be a lot faster.
 
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I recommend the 2080. I had a 1080 and now have a 2080. It was worth it. And for the future of RTRT gaming is going to be solid fun to have.
20 series is early adopter tax for an immature tech. 2080 isn't powerful enough for RTRT, only fake RT, and even then you'll be getting a massive hit in FPS even at relatively mild resolutions. I just don't think it's worth it especially when very few actual games are supporting it... lol

At least with the 1080 Ti they are also getting more VRAM.
 
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20 series is early adopter tax for an immature tech. 2080 isn't powerful enough for RTRT, only fake RT
Your opinion, and you're welcome to it.
and even then you'll be getting a massive hit in FPS even at relatively mild resolutions. I just don't think it's worth it especially when very few actual games are supporting it... lol
That's not what a metric ton of video's on YouTube are showing. I see video's by respected channel's showing very playable framerates with DXR in BF5 and the effect is very cool. For example Jay showed some aspects to gaming where BF5's RT FX were very useful in game. Hell yes I'd turn that on.
 
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Your opinion, and you're welcome to it.

That's not what a metric ton of video's on YouTube are showing. I see video's by respected channel's showing very playable framrates with DRX on in BF5 and the effect is very cool. For example Jay showed some aspects to gaming where BF5's RT FX were very useful in game. Hell yes I'd turn that on.
thats why EA had to dial back RT so users can actually have playable frames
 
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thats why EA had to dial back RT so users can actually have playable frames
He probably believed every word written in that "just buy it" article on Tom's Hardware

to answer the question:
If you believe that mere 30% better performance is worth the upgrade go for it
otherwise save up for the 2080ti which imo is way overpriced OR wait for the prices to go down to at least the MSRP which is 699 for the 2080 and 999 for the Ti
or just wait another year or two for the next gen

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Your opinion, and you're welcome to it.

That's not what a metric ton of video's on YouTube are showing. I see video's by respected channel's showing very playable framrates with DRX on in BF5 and the effect is very cool. For example Jay showed some aspects to gaming where BF5's RT FX were very useful in game. Hell yes I'd turn that on.
I liked this line

He is funny at times highlighting the higher FPS when hes by himself in multiplayer

He also said

JayzTwoCentz said:
I plan to do this again using the 2080 and 2070, which based on this performance would be completely unplayable even at DRX low.
If they are priced the same. Get the newer one.
 
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I would say if you find a good deal you can go for the 2080, I play on on 3440x1440 and I have a 1080ti but if I had a choice I would probably go for a 2080
 
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Gamersnexus has analyzed how rt is implemented in bfV and its far from great. Thats the ONLY game that actually support rt more than 3 months after the cards have been released
 
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to rtx 2080 - not worth upgrade. if you will sell your gtx 1080 used, then you will have to add +400$ to that money for only 30% performance increase.... it is not worth hassle and cost by any means in my books. now that we know RayTracing is and will not usable even on rtx 2080 ti - you can drop all hopes or "futureproofing" (aka nivia marketing) about that and make decision only based on performance and performance/price.
in case if one thinks: "well gtx 1080 vs rtx 2080 = +30% and that sounds good and clear upgrade to me" - I have question - why you did not upgrade earlier? why now? and why not upgrade to used gtx 1080 ti for (your used sold gtx 1080 + 150$) ?
 
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to rtx 2080 - not worth upgrade. if you will sell your gtx 1080 used, then you will have to add +400$ to that money for only 30% performance increase.... it is not worth hassle and cost by any means in my books. now that we know RayTracing is and will not usable even on rtx 2080 ti - you can drop all hopes or "futureproofing" (aka nivia marketing) about that and make decision only based on performance and performance/price.
in case if one thinks: "well gtx 1080 vs rtx 2080 = +30% and that sounds good and clear upgrade to me" - I have question - why you did not upgrade earlier? why now? and why not upgrade to used gtx 1080 ti for (your used sold gtx 1080 + 150$) ?
A used 1080ti for a good price might be a very compelling option, but only for a good price which in my opinion would be 450£ or around 500$
 
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Gamersnexus has analyzed how rt is implemented in bfV and its far from great.
Maybe, but it's still playable. Looking at the past, Intel's MMX wasn't even utilized until a full year after release and was only optimized after a further year. RTX is no different. It's going to take some time to learn and optimize for it. However, devs are learning much faster these days and the first game entry that takes advantage of RTX is showing what it can do to great effect. I'm excited to see the first real demo's and benchmarking suites as well as games.

A used 1080ti for a good price might be a very compelling option, but only for a good price which in my opinion would be 450£ or around 500$
This is true. If the OP is willing to buy used, a 1080ti is a great value! However, new, the 2080 is the better bet.
 
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so why paying way over msrp now when you can wait a couple of years for more rt games and hopefully cheaper and faster cards
 
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RTX is no different. It's going to take some time to learn and optimize for it
true - and by the time it will be actually usable I will gladly buy RTX 40xx and laugh about those who dropped 1200$ for obsolete (by that time) rtx 2080 ti

However, devs are learning much faster these days and the first game entry that takes advantage of RTX is showing what it can do to great effect
that is only speculation form you. I do not think any dev has time (aka money) to waste for 1.0% of the shrinking market. wake me up when RayTracing is usable option in 200$ GPU segment - then we can talk about devis investing tiem (aka money) in it. would you finance (give devs time) to chase 1.0% market? or ar you expecting that soon 10% of PC gaming will be above 800$ gpus?:kookoo:

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rtx 2080 does come down in price as we speak (was 950$ "sold out" and now is 750-ish$), because it is shyte and no one buys it (except Toms Hardware level of "enlightened" people). so another -150$ (from here, from 750$) and it might be decent buy for those whos current gtx 1070 - 1080 broke for some reason. still +25-30% performance (vs gtx 1080) is not upgrade worthy by no means.
 
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$760 for a card that is only 30% faster than a two and half yr old $550 card where do you see the value in that?
How do you not see the value? To each their own..
true - and by the time it will be actually usable I will gladly buy RTX 40xx and laugh about those who dropped 1200$ for obsolete (by that time) rtx 2080 ti
First, I have the 2080, not the ti. Second, in the mean time I have a card that kicks the everliving crap out of my previous card and unlike the 1080ti, can do RTRT.
would you finance (give devs time) to chase 1.0% market? or ar you expecting that soon 10% of PC gaming will be above 800$ gpus?:kookoo:
I expect adoption rates to increase as time goes on and as NVidia discontinues the 1000 series GPU's.
rtx 2080 does come down in price as we speak (was 950$ "sold out" and now is 750-ish$)
Only NVidia branded 2080's were above $900. AIB cards were less from the start. My card was at $790ish on release and came down.
 
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Main reason I would change is I'm able to sell my GTX1080 for a nice price (400 Euro) and since gaming on a 3440x1440 ultrawide with 120fps, I often see the GTX1080 struggling to go to 100fps average in some titles at that resolution. So hoping the 2080 would give me that.
 
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Main reason I would change is I'm able to sell my GTX1080 for a nice price (400 Euro) and since gaming on a 3440x1440 ultrawide with 120fps, I often see the GTX1080 struggling to go to 100fps average in some titles at that resolution. So hoping the 2080 would give me that.
Well then, go for it. The 2080 is ridiculously expensive, but if you're willing to put up with that, it's significantly faster.
 
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Main reason I would change is I'm able to sell my GTX1080 for a nice price (400 Euro) and since gaming on a 3440x1440 ultrawide with 120fps, I often see the GTX1080 struggling to go to 100fps average in some titles at that resolution. So hoping the 2080 would give me that.
You'll definitely see a performance improvement so if you have the money go for it, especially if you can get it for a good price.
 
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The 2080 is only about 5%-10% faster than a 1080ti but much more expensive.
 
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