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I just finished an email survey about the army system. They're talking about a lot of really sweet stuff in there. :eek:
 
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10 pilot point again ... i wonder : Raptor, Mammoth, Electron, Firecat, Dragonfly:banghead:

choice done i went Dragonfly for heal when im tired of going only dps and no support :D

this is hilarious ... when using fountain of heal (dunno the right name in english xD) people tend to get out the green circle so fast that they dont get the heal... do they fear it? :D we are not playing wow its not the Emerald puddle of the Quilen guardian in Mogushan Vault :roll:
 
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ahhhh this is funny, i made a new account to test the tutorial.

result: i dont know how they do, to not understand it, its pretty well explained and not much change from the Closed Beta tutorial i had ... also i did got no bug on mission completion, i guess they did maybe do a DB "Hot Update" or im just the luckiest one in all New Eden:ohwell:
 

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this is hilarious ... when using fountain of heal (dunno the right name in english xD) people tend to get out the green circle so fast that they dont get the heal... do they fear it? :D we are not playing wow its not the Emerald puddle of the Quilen guardian in Mogushan Vault :roll:
When I see it, I try to stay in it but it is hard to stay close to it if there juggernauts and the like shooting at you.

Edit: There was a small patch. :eek:
 
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When I see it, I try to stay in it but it is hard to stay close to it if there juggernauts and the like shooting at you.

Edit: There was a small patch. :eek:
indeed but when it happens its when no enemys are around mostly i smashed them all before going triage reviving the dead and using the fountain and poof they gtfo like if it was a atomic bomb device... luckly not all does so ... i suspect only new player xD

btw that skill have a AOE its not strictly bound to the circle, also i use them with healing ball when i solo: that does a fair ammount of damages.
 

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yep so far so good, i can get used to be warped to copa in the end... tho i have to add one thing ...

DRAGONFLY ROCKS! i guess i have to unlock and test all t2 frames ... but we have a good candidat for the 1st place in my heart...

also the last patch quite improved the stability, Red5 work slow but efficiently (wait thats normal ... they ran out of coffee while reading all the bugs report and had to find a new supply before patching! :roll: )
 
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DRAGONFLY ROCKS! i guess i have to unlock and test all t2 frames ... but we have a good candidat for the 1st place in my heart...
Why is it so good? I was thinking about trying the rhino from what you said.
 

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Mammoth is undeniably better than the Rhino. Rhino's main gun is weak unless you use the alternative fire. If you do, the all 150+ ammo is gone in a few seconds and the range is pathetic. It's supposed to be a laser machine gun but it sure doesn't behave like it (weak when inaccurate, short range when powerful).
 
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Mammoth is undeniably better than the Rhino. Rhino's main gun is weak unless you use the alternative fire. If you do, the all 150+ ammo is gone in a few seconds and the range is pathetic. It's supposed to be a laser machine gun but it sure doesn't behave like it (weak when inaccurate, short range when powerful).
no they are different: its like a Warrior fury(rhino) and a warrior defense(mammoth) Rhino outdps mammoth(as i see many post on FF forum) but mammoth cant sustain heavier damages.

when using this (still GG is a bit bugged and affect player projectile (not sure if it has been corrected)
gravity grenade increases damage taken by 17% at stock.
Sundering wave increases damage taken by 15% at stock. The rhino does 53 damage per a shot at stock.(Mammoth does 70 per shot)
on the five out of every thirty seconds the rhinos abilities are up, the rhino gets the GLORIOUS opportunity to.... Do the same damage as the "defensively" minded frame.
i use my Rhino with Heavy Armor skill to have a bit more hold on the field, with Gravity grenade Grenade and another damage augmenting skill that i dont remember the name :roll:(Sundering Wave)

Mammoth vs Rhino preference for damage output:

Ares missions: Either, depending on location and type of mission.
Thumpers: Either, depending on size thumper and location (field, bottlenecked, exploitable area)
LGV: rhino
Crashed thumper: either.
Tornado: rhino.
Incursions: Rhino.
Invasions: Rhino.
Tower recovery: Either.
Melding pocket missions: rhino.
Blackwater: Undefined, most take mammoths for their defensive capabilities, not offensive.
PvP: rhino
Also the playstyle of the player does a lot too.

the main point is Rhino is more effective at long range dps than the Mammoth due to their weapon. at close range mammoth can do same (or close due to Rhino alternate fire) i dont notice low dps and weak behavior at long range with the Laser HMG

Alternate Fire mean for me : Gravity grenade on a pack and Heavy armor soon as i get close

now to come on the Dragonfly well it rocks cause i like to be supportive and also in term of solo ability if using heal fountain healing ball its golden, AOE dmg + the good dps of the Biorifle (i use chosen but accord and normal can be good too) again depending on the playstyle (i dont want to use skill or how good is the player that use it im against those "superiority" terms)

in fact the Mammoth outdps the Rhino but again it depend of the playstyle. altho i wouldnt recommende the Rhino over the Mammoth.
for soloability i recommend the Bastion (easy mode when lvl'ed) i cant recommende others.

good point for James888 : copa Arcporter and a cobra LGV will be avaiable at Luau beans shop at 175beans each (not the LGV but the Arcporter, too much founder complained about that :D at last those who only want the Arcporter or a LGV without crafting it or taking the 100$ starter can have it, it doesnt need more than 50$ to add 440RB) now we might complain that a LGV will be easier to have for those who dont want to either: be a founder or starter pack or a closed beta player or work their ass off for 200k Cy but each Cobra has his own paintjob so no big deal.

meh... i just realised the Arcporter is now useless :roll: loging off warp to copa ... soooo whats the point? oh wait on high server load and login queue hmmm it can still be of use xD
 
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the main point is Rhino is more effective at long range dps than the Mammoth due to their weapon.
It is not. Both have a spread of 2.00 so both are pathetic at range. When plasma hits though, it does 35% more damage than laser.

I've got over a million XP on both frames and the Mammoth always tends to tear the enemies down faster in every circumstance. There's a reason why almost everyone uses Mammoths when fighting Baneclaw (highest constant DPS and highest armor).


I can't log in right now. :(
 
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It is not. Both have a spread of 2.00 so both are pathetic at range. When plasma hits though, it does 35% more damage than laser.

I've got over a million XP on both frames and the Mammoth always tends to tear the enemies down faster in every circumstance. There's a reason why almost everyone uses Mammoths when fighting Baneclaw (highest constant DPS and highest armor).


I can't log in right now. :(
strange i dont have a "fall of accuracy" at long range and the plasma have a shorter travel before the "bullet" fall.

oh well

hummmm server down i presume i cant login too
 

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It's easy to compensate for gravity with mammoth because you can see where they fall. I've killed stuff with mammoth over 200m out by arcing it. At that kind of range, it becomes more like artillery.
 
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It's easy to compensate for gravity with mammoth because you can see where they fall. I've killed stuff with mammoth over 200m out by arcing it.
yup thats what i do with all "arc range weapon" ... i was a sniper back in my swiss army time, parralax correction is a basic. :D

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AND my locust disapeared again ... i hope they fix it soon... :roll:
 
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PATCHDAY and no major hicup or sin goofs ... did Red5 improve ??? yay also now i have my 7950 to 1000/1500 core/mem weehee smothness goodness
 

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The chat was noticeably slow after the patch. It also took a while for equipment changes to process at the garage.
 
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The chat was noticeably slow after the patch. It also took a while for equipment changes to process at the garage.
Didnt notices it' perhaps on EU-w it was not the case.
 

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Oh, I'm still not liking the Nighthawk frame much.
 
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Oh, I'm still not liking the Nighthawk frame much.
I would like to request when one says a statement such as above the specify why. I am curious. Maybe even incorporate how you use/playstyle of the battleframe. Maybe even a general summery of the battleframe from your perspective and play style.

I like the recluse. I also like the accord biotech. With the recluse I can keep everything I liked about the accord biotech and and get all the fun new recluse attributes two. Maybe that is just me being newer and not having tried a new frame before. Comparing the accord biotech to the recluse, I noticed I seemed to die more as the recluse. They both have low health but the accord biotech has a passive ability that heals for each point of damage givin. The recluse is basically and AOE/DOT battleframe and you need to play that to your advantage. Using the accord biotech's passive that heals for each damage dealt, I can see great potential to tank. A recluse in a 1v1 I do not think is that great. A recluse in a 1v10 can deal a lot of damage to all 10 at once while healing, thus tanking. I am having trouble with this as I am not very skilled but with higher levels I can see this being a very easy probability.
 

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There's only 4 bullets per magazine and there's a pretty lengthy delay between each shot. It has ridiculously low HP (900ish) and seems to die rapidly. Basically, Nighthawk is a hugely disadvantaged frame if there isn't someone else to draw fire away from it. In relatively close quarters (e.g. ARES missions), it is very easy to get overwhelmed and be forced to retreat. It doesn't have enough HP, a fast enough fire rate, nor enough close-range punching power to hold the line.

It is great for standing 100m+ away and picking enemies off but even if you do, you risk not getting rewarded for it (especially drops from killed hostiles). You'll also have a problem with having sufficient ammo (only 40 shots total) and health to recover from sniper/juggernaut hits. Ironically, it doesn't have much of a zoom either so at extreme ranges, it is still disadvantaged.

All I've really found it great for is assisting in tornadoes and incursions (things that often draw other players anyway), that's about it.


I should have gone with Recluse, Tigerclaw, or Dragonfly. :( It is good to have a long-range frame available but, as far as I'm concerned, it disappoints on pretty much every metric. It can't even kill a stage 1 juggernaut with a headshot FFS!
 
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Recluse has a crossbow that is pretty long ranged. No scope and it arcs but that can be accounted for.
 

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Nighthawk is very good for headhunting especially when you throw in the abilities that make its shots more powerful. You can reliably get headshots so long as they don't decide to move at the last microsecond. The problem with Nighthawk is its low DPS. It sucks against high HP enemies and it sucks against swarms of low HP enemies.
 
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I can't even log in right now. 11:06pm pst. Server full? It just says "waiting for responses." Tried again an hour later. Still no. No firefall tonight.
 
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Instance may have crashed.

Edit: I played for maybe 25 minutes and then it seems my instance crashed too. :confused:

Edit: And it is back again.
 
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Oh, I'm still not liking the Nighthawk frame much.
i saw the server instance name before that patch o_O

also well next time i say take the Raptor instead of Nighthawk xD Raptor seems to be more polyvalent than Night.