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Firefox in Warp Zone, Updated to Version 7.0

Is version-warping in any way helpful to Firefox?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 8.2%
  • No

    Votes: 39 53.4%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 28 38.4%

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Yes. If you open up a command line and type "ver" it says "Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]."

No, it says "Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]." :cool:


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lol Sorry, mine's still on RTM, not SP1. Long story there...
 
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Out of all the things to bitch about today this is the least deserving. Stop giving a crap. Problem solved.
 
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Yes. If you open up a command line and type "ver" it says "Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]."

And Windows 8 DP is "6.2.8102" xDD
 

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this just proves the firefox people have been infiltrated by lame managers and overpaid marketing consultant nut jobs.

if you want to read about PROPER "versioning" then look no further than apache.

http://apr.apache.org/versioning.html
 

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I updated, and somehow magically lost adblock, was a weird experience.
 

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Whatever the changes are I am not seeming them or noticing them off the bat.
It looks and runs just the same as the previous FF IMO.

No, now if you got to About Firefox you will see Firefox 7 instead of 6 xD
Seriously, because according to the OP it basically is only an update in its engine with the exception of the improved Sync feature. That's why I think it's ridiculous to name it like a major update instead of 6.x or 6.0.x .


not surprising...

However it is very different to Windows 7 in all the aspects, performance, GUI, resource consumption, new major features like Metro, HyperV, better anti malware software... I believe Microsoft does the opposite of what Firefox and Chrome are doing: make major versions like minor ones in their versioning system of Windows (if it doesn't refer the kernel, of course).
 
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pressed 2 by accident but even if the "kernel and stuff" was V 6.1, Windows 7 is sufficiently different to warrant a different name then Vista. It is in no way comparable to the inflation of version of FF.

Not really. Under the hood it's mostly just Vista with visual changes.
 
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I noticed Firefox 7 now forces GDI-style rendering for "Microsoft core web fonts". I actually prefer the so-called "blurry" look so I deleted everything in gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.force_gdi_classic_for_families.
 

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7.0.1 has been released, fyi. c:
 
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Speaking of Firefox, now Firefox 10 Nightly build is released :D
 
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7.0.1 has been released, fyi. c:

http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/09/28/issue-discovered-with-firefox-add-on-upgrades/


Update (Sept. 29 3:45pm Pacific): A new update for Firefox that fixes this issue is now available, and all users are encouraged to update to the latest version from within the Firefox About window or by downloading from mozilla.org/firefox.

We’ve identified an issue in which some users may have one or more of their add-ons hidden after upgrading to the latest Firefox version, affecting both desktop and mobile. These add-ons and their data are still intact and haven’t actually been removed. We paused new updates to Firefox to minimize the potential impact on users and will soon release an update to fix this issue and ensure all your add-ons are visible and usable. In the meantime, if you notice an add-on missing entirely from the Add-ons Manager, you can use a simple workaround to recover them.

We are working hard to resolve this issue. We know how important add-ons are to you and apologize for the inconvenience.

Justin Scott, on behalf of the Firefox Add-ons team
 

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I'm still waiting for them to fix the rotten laggy scrolling. Apparently i have to run my super high end desktop in a Aero Basic mode for this shit not to happen. C'mon!?
 
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Yeah, a couple new shiny features on top, and a WDDM update. Under the hood, it still runs and processes most things just like Vista. It really is just a tweaked Vista. It isn't a new ground up OS at all. Just an update on the existing kernel and platform.

In fact, Vista SP2 runs every bit as good as 7 in most things as well.

Yeah I knew that Windows 7 was a reply to the Vista poor reviews and performance but in my experience Microsoft done a excellent good with Windows 7 :)
 

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Yeah I knew that Windows 7 was a reply to the Vista poor reviews and performance but in my experience Microsoft done a excellent good with Windows 7 :)

I agree. I'm just saying that it is primarily the same OS underneath, and that fully updated Vista gets a bad rap.
 
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Is it just me or are the rest of you finding that Firefox, although having been somewhat offloaded from the CPU, is now overloading the GPU?
I was wondering why my MSI-AB was ramping up my GPU's fanspeed, only to see higher temperatures from Firefox intermittently taking the GPU usage to over 50%, more than even "The Witcher", which only uses ~35% at max gfx!!
 
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Is it just me or are the rest of you finding that Firefox, although having been somewhat offloaded from the CPU, is now overloading the GPU?
I was wondering why my MSI-AB was ramping up my GPU's fanspeed, only to see higher temperatures from Firefox intermittently taking the GPU usage to over 50%, more than even "The Witcher", which only uses ~35% at max gfx!!

Nope using ~50% GPU here, except when scrolling then it raises to 80-90%

Anyway you can disable hardware acceleration.
 
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Nope using ~50% GPU here, except when scrolling then it raises to 80-90%

Anyway you can disable hardware acceleration.

That sort of usage doesn't seem too high for you? What on earth could it be processing to use that much?!
 
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That sort of usage doesn't seem too high for you? What on earth could it be processing to use that much?!
The page rendering, CSS and HTML layouts, JavaScript, text fonts, animations, scrolling, Flash, etc (as far I know) :)

Yeah it's very high and the GPU heats considerably, but at least it's way faster and more efficient than CPU rendering (at least here) without hardware rendering the scrolling becomes very choppy and pages with many images or complex becomes very slow, CPU intensive(this happens me with Chrome, while in Firefox with HW rendering, it is smooth (even with a HD5450 :lol: )
 

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You should try Opera, I never feel any need for hw rendering on any pages. Tried IE9, Chrome and FF with HW rendering on, and sometimes it still feel faster on Opera (IE9 with hw accel off is horrendous though), they work magic.
 
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