Firefox to block tracking by default

[Frick]

In short, Mozilla will add features that block tracking by default. Here's hoping other browsers will follow suit ... though I don't see Chrome doing so. Ghostery can already do this, but it is massively nice to have it built in and on by default.

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2018/08/30/changing-our-approach-to-anti-tracking/

In the near future, Firefox will — by default — protect users by blocking tracking while also offering a clear set of controls to give our users more choice over what information they share with sites.

Over the next few months, we plan to release a series of features that will put this new approach into practice through three key initiatives:

- Improving page load performance
- Removing cross-site tracking
- Mitigating harmful practices

This is about more than protecting users — it’s about giving them a voice. Some sites will continue to want user data in exchange for content, but now they will have to ask for it, a positive change for people who up until now had no idea of the value exchange they were asked to make. Blocking pop-up ads in the original Firefox release was the right move in 2004, because it didn’t just make Firefox users happier, it gave the advertising platforms of the time a reason to care about their users’ experience. In 2018, we hope that our efforts to empower our users will have the same effect.

 

[qubit]

Nice. Mozilla's stance on privacy and security is one of the reasons that I use Firefox as my primary browser.

 

[RejZoR]

Opera had AdBlocking and tracker blocking for a very long time, but everyone ignores it because Chinese company is their parent. Heh.

 

[coonbro]

I started using firefox and duck duck go to get away from google . so far so good seems my search results are more to what I type in and not to what google thinks I should get and see .

its all getting to the ridiculous . like google I look up ford ranger parts and later want to look up scuba gear and google gives me ford rangers with scuba themes or scuba gear with a ford ranger in the background ...lol... 100 results and like 80 don't really have nothing to what I want or to what I typed in search or repeat the same site over and over down the list just worded slightly different .

anyway firefox with duck duck go looks to work a bit better for me in opinion?

 

[bonehead123]

but
but
but.... is it real (hard-coded into the browser), or just hype to get more users, and is it actively preventing tracking efforts, and is there a way to definitively tell one way or the other, like an output list of sites trying to track you but rejected/stopped.....

also how long till some script kiddie figures out a way to defeat it or at least side-step it ??????

 

[coonbro]

with duck I go to a new site and it opens duck gives a pop up to allow this site or not for this site ?

now how much weight that holds ????
The search engine that doesn't track you. Learn More.
https://duckduckgo.com/

all I can do is use it and hope there holding up too there claims

 

[R-T-B]

but
but
but.... is it real (hard-coded into the browser), or just hype to get more users, and is it actively preventing tracking efforts, and is there a way to definitively tell one way or the other, like an output list of sites trying to track you but rejected/stopped.....

also how long till some script kiddie figures out a way to defeat it or at least side-step it ??????

I mean, if brower doesn't eat cookie, browser doesn't get cookie?

It's pretty basic.

 

[remixedcat]

Uh, the mozilla foundation has some shady ties though. And Opera sold out to some dodgy chinese company. Using slimjet at the moment and so far they are clean.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

hhmmm..I wonder about Waterfox...nah no one interested in this browser

 

[qubit]

Uh, the mozilla foundation has some shady ties though. And Opera sold out to some dodgy chinese company. Using slimjet at the moment and so far they are clean.

Can you tell us more about those shady ties, please? AFAIK they're one of the good guys and they're always emailing me with their campaigns to keep the internet neutral and also privacy for the individual over the data mining that big companies do.

 

[Ahhzz]

hhmmm..I wonder about Waterfox...nah no one interested in this browser

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfox
Tell me more...

Uh, the mozilla foundation has some shady ties though. And Opera sold out to some dodgy chinese company. Using slimjet at the moment and so far they are clean.

And you too.... source?

 

[remixedcat]

Can you tell us more about those shady ties, please? AFAIK they're one of the good guys and they're always emailing me with their campaigns to keep the internet neutral and also privacy for the individual over the data mining that big companies do.

Been lurking on subreddits that have been saying that for years. I used to be a firefox die hard fancat but not after the whole yahell thing. They might even sell out to yahoo entirely. yuck. They are greasy as hell and I steer clear of anything that yahell has it's claws in.
1/2/3/4 <<just some quick examples

 

[qubit]

Been lurking on subreddits that have been saying that for years. I used to be a firefox die hard fancat but not after the whole yahell thing. They might even sell out to yahoo entirely. yuck. They are greasy as hell and I steer clear of anything that yahell has it's claws in.
1/2/3/4 <<just some quick examples

Yeah, thanks remixedcat. Now that you've linked to these, I remember seeing some of this stuff before. Nothing is as it seems with these things, is it?

On the plus side, I still haven't seen ads in Firefox 4 years later on that article and they are fighting for net neutrality etc, so they're not all bad, lol.

 

[lexluthermiester]

hhmmm..I wonder about Waterfox...nah no one interested in this browser

What are you talking about? I use it a lot. Great fork of FF.

1/2/3/4 <<just some quick examples

Fud.
1. Never happened, 2. Never happened, 3. Rubbish, baseless business sector corporate fear-mongering, 4. The info that is collected is internal FF debug info. No personal info is collected. And unlike Microsoft's non-sense, when you turn it off it actually shuts off.

 

[remixedcat]

Even with just the whole yahoo thing it's enough to put me off indefinitly. A deal with them is like a deal with the devil, only that devil wears pantsuits and has blonde hair. LOL

 

[lexluthermiester]

Even with just the whole yahoo thing it's enough to put me off indefinitely.

What, the deal about being the default search engine? You know you can change that, right?

A deal with them is like a deal with the devil, only that devil wears pantsuits and has blonde hair. LOL

There's an interesting opinion. Just an FYI; Yahoo is owned by Verizon now. Marissa Mayer is gone, or soon will be.

 

[StrayKAT]

What are you talking about? I use it a lot. Great fork of FF.

Fud.
1. Never happened, 2. Never happened, 3. Rubbish, baseless business sector corporate fear-mongering, 4. The info that is collected is internal FF debug info. No personal info is collected. And unlike Microsoft's non-sense, when you turn it off it actually shuts off.

How do you know Microsoft is still collecting?

It's definitely burdensome to turn it off (multiple points in Privacy and Cortana settings), but I never heard that they still collect. I've only heard that about Google.

Not doubting necessarily. Just wondering what you know.

 

[coonbro]

seemed to me when you read the eula and all for win -10 looked pretty clear . you did click that I AGREE, right ? don't forget that a cloud based malware service not a OS .

like how xp days mail was on your computer / harddrive but now it all cloud / some server somewhere in the world for anybody . you think them privacy laws like for the us or eu apply to a server in India or Pakistan ?

best thing to is any on line or connected to the internet use a live dvd of Linux cant write to that or add ware to it no harddrive involved .

''It's definitely burdensome to turn it off (multiple points in Privacy and Cortana settings), but I never heard that they still collect.''

anymore with Microsoft [or anyone for that matter ] you turned it off ? like with 10 everytime you connect to the internet they can just backdoor it all . you see how intrusive it is to start with and how those features are prominent main features .

don't be too naïve turn off all you want today all that does is satisfies your mind cause if they want it they just go in and get it , its on ''THERE'' cloud servers not your drive anymore . all about you can do to prevent it is never use the computer on line or never connect to the internet . with todays high speed connections you will never see it flinch till after the fact / gone.

ya a live dvd of Linux on a write once disk hack and collect on that [opinion]

 

[remixedcat]

What, the deal about being the default search engine? You know you can change that, right?

There's an interesting opinion. Just an FYI; Yahoo is owned by Verizon now. Marissa Mayer is gone, or soon will be.

More than just the search thing. user data beyond search was being sent to them as well. (can't post links as the site I found this out at is NSFW don't ask don't PM) Also other stuff involved as well with financing and NSA connections. Yahoo is directly selling stuff to the NSA and the verizon thing is most likely a cover to something even more screwy.

 

[Liquid Cool]

hhmmm..I wonder about Waterfox...nah no one interested in this browser

It's the only browser I use. Absolutely love it.....

I left Firefox after they joined with George Soros to combat online "fake news" by creating the Mozilla Information Trust Initiative(MITI). The whole thing screamed "a little creepy" to me...I really don't want my browser(or Google) allowing what I see/don't see on the web. At least that's the opinion I came away with after reading a few articles about it a year ago. Looked like some form of censorship. Frankly, I prefer to just stay FAR away from politics...and the young dev of Waterfox I've spoken to feels the same way.

Waterfox is easy enough to install in Windows. Although, at last glance, there isn't an official repository for Waterfox in linux. I'll add the commands on how I install Waterfox in linux below...it's worked for me everytime...and stays updated just fine.

Best Regards,

Liquid Cool

From my install notes for Ubuntu 16.04.4/18.04.1.....

Waterfox:

Add repository:

echo "deb https://dl.bintray.com/hawkeye116477/waterfox-deb release main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list

Add public key:

curl https://bintray.com/user/downloadSubjectPublicKey?username=hawkeye116477 | sudo apt-key add -

Update and install:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install waterfox

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfox
Tell me more...


And you too.... source?

the best suggestion is to look at patch notes, they can tell you more than I can remember. Waterfox is a direct copy of Firefox64 but has several differences on the back end and in security. Its more secure than that browser made by that company that sells personal information for profit.

More than just the search thing. user data beyond search was being sent to them as well. (can't post links as the site I found this out at is NSFW don't ask don't PM) Also other stuff involved as well with financing and NSA connections. Yahoo is directly selling stuff to the NSA and the verizon thing is most likely a cover to something even more screwy.

Yahoo has been the target of so many data breaches it stopped reporting them. Yahoo isnt the only one that bent over for the NSA while Yahoo financing is still the goto for many in the stock market.

 

[coonbro]

man it got to where your refrig and tv is collecting and sending data may as well say your pretty much doomed if you got and use internet in any way. .. beep , beep, alexa or cortrana says your out of milk cause your refrig told them to alert you [ with picture of what brand you got ] after your Samsung hdtv heard you tell your wife in the living room and passed it on to whom it may concern . cars with gps and built in wifi harddrives on top of every time you start it up and go , its all about you being under there 24hr surveillance and how that markets brands to you in advertising

the browser is 1/2 then add your search engine why I'm trying out that duck duck go firefox . they claim they don't ???

anyway you turn your doomed

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

seemed to me when you read the eula and all for win -10 looked pretty clear . you did click that I AGREE, right ? don't forget that a cloud based malware service not a OS .

like how xp days mail was on your computer / harddrive but now it all cloud / some server somewhere in the world for anybody . you think them privacy laws like for the us or eu apply to a server in India or Pakistan ?

best thing to is any on line or connected to the internet use a live dvd of Linux cant write to that or add ware to it no harddrive involved .

''It's definitely burdensome to turn it off (multiple points in Privacy and Cortana settings), but I never heard that they still collect.''

anymore with Microsoft [or anyone for that matter ] you turned it off ? like with 10 everytime you connect to the internet they can just backdoor it all . you see how intrusive it is to start with and how those features are prominent main features .

don't be too naïve turn off all you want today all that does is satisfies your mind cause if they want it they just go in and get it , its on ''THERE'' cloud servers not your drive anymore . all about you can do to prevent it is never use the computer on line or never connect to the internet . with todays high speed connections you will never see it flinch till after the fact / gone.

ya a live dvd of Linux on a write once disk hack and collect on that [opinion]

if I could understand this gibberish without getting a headache, I wouldnt skip over your posts so much. Maybe add some spell checking too?

m$ still collects more than they should regardless of the "new" settings, their PR is a misdirection 90% of the time.

man it got to where your refrig and tv is collecting and sending data may as well say your pretty much doomed if you got and use internet in any way. .. beep , beep, alexa or cortrana says your out of milk cause your refrig told them to alert you [ with picture of what brand you got ] after your Samsung hdtv heard you tell your wife in the living room and passed it on to whom it may concern . cars with gps and built in wifi harddrives on top of every time you start it up and go , its all about you being under there 24hr surveillance and how that markets brands to you in advertising

the browser is 1/2 then add your search engine why I'm trying out that duck duck go firefox . they claim they don't ???

anyway you turn your doomed

the claim is true.

 

[lexluthermiester]

More than just the search thing. user data beyond search was being sent to them as well. (can't post links as the site I found this out at is NSFW don't ask don't PM) Also other stuff involved as well with financing and NSA connections. Yahoo is directly selling stuff to the NSA and the verizon thing is most likely a cover to something even more screwy.

Take off your tinfoil hat..

 

[coonbro]

just keep skiping that works best as said if you don't like it lump it , right? if so smart seems like you would just stop using these things ? that's the best suggestion over patching as you say ?