First build :D :D

[Solaris17]

For "us" "senior" rig-builders its a piece of cake to slam a few parts together. In your case i would really suggest to read up on some building advice before overclocking advice.

Main things to keep in mind:

• Dont zap your parts, before essambling grab a nice piece of metal to get rid of any electricity in your body.
• Get a good pair of screwdrivers, preferably with slight magnetic head to prevent screws damaging parts.
• Do not start without a good cup of coffee or tired because an accident is just around the corner.
• Make sure to put the risers in the case first leaving no hole on the motherboard without a screw and riser to screw into.
• Second mount the CPU cooler before placing the MB in your casing.
• Do not tighten the screws too much on your HDD(s), but also make sure they dont go basejumping.
• Make sure the case backplate for the MB is in there before you mount the mobo. (Backplates also tend to have metal strips which will get stuck in USB ports or the LAN port if you do not place the MB correctly.
• Make sure the motherboard isnt warping/flexing because the cooler is overtight.
• Never hold the MB by the CPU cooler.
• Check whether the screws to attach the MB in your casing can all be used. (Sometimes there is a height difference in the casing and you need to screw in a sort of mounting screw to overcome the difference.
• Anyone more ideas?

I think we should all take time to modify this list in short concise bulleted format so he doesnt trip up.

 

[Rule-R]

I think we should all take time to modify this list in short concise bulleted format so he doesnt trip up.

Agreed. Might be an idea to start a new thread just to state these things?

 

[Solaris17]

Agreed. Might be an idea to start a new thread just to state these things?

I was thinking more along the lines that the list is quoted modified and highlighted changes are made so when he is ready he just needs to look at the last list. That way we dont put more threads on his watch list nor get the mods all ready for cleaning duty. If we do it this way all the original members involved in this are on the same page so we can help each other help him without confusion. This way instead of saying "no no do this first" etc the list can be modified until a "community" agreed on path is set. this will keep him from jumping up and down the page trying to sort replies.

 

[Rule-R]

I was thinking more along the lines that the list is quoted modified and highlighted changes are made so when he is ready he just needs to look at the last list. That way we dont put more threads on his watch list nor get the mods all ready for cleaning duty. If we do it this way all the original members involved in this are on the same page so we can help each other help him without confusion. This way instead of saying "no no do this first" etc the list can be modified until a "community" agreed on path is set. this will keep him from jumping up and down the page trying to sort replies.

I was more thinking in the line of a TPU guide for all new members who are gonna build a rig themselves Edit: Not on selecting parts but what to keep in mind when you have the parts and start building.

But you have a very valid point there.

 

[1nf3rn0x]

Umm if you wish to save a bit of$$, you can look for a secondhand 550be that unlocks to four cores. It would save you quite a bit then you can bump your gpu up to a GTX 460 768mb/1gb.

 

[Jetster]

Read the arctic silver instructions on how to apply CPU thermal paste
http://www.arcticsilver.com/instructions.htm

 

[JrRacinFan]

Make sure to put the risers in the case first leaving no hole on the motherboard without a screw and riser to screw into.

This can be dangerous. If there is too many mounted in the case, there could be a short leading to motherboard failure.

 

[Rule-R]

This can be dangerous. If there is too many mounted in the case, there could be a short leading to motherboard failure.

I know i had some paper rings that prevented the screws from touching the MB. Probably also easy to make yourself?

 

[sneekypeet]

Simply just dont fill "all" the holes in the motherboard tray, just the ones assigned for that form factor of motherboard

 

[Solaris17]

This can be dangerous. If there is too many mounted in the case, there could be a short leading to motherboard failure.

what? im sorry but i dont buy this at all. if you have one for every hole as you should then the chances of shorting are decreased as the board does and will not flex in those areas which is the point of some risers to secure the motherboard. if anything i would NOT reccomend skipping. iv destroyed motherboards doing that not to mention it sas noware in any manual that you should use as afew aspossible. Instead it reccomends all are used.

 

[JrRacinFan]

How you were wording it is by using a standoff/riser in EVERY possible motherboard mounting position hole. ATX and mATX. For mATX you could possibly get away with it, but for ATX you would have standoffs/risers touching the back of the board.

 

[Solaris17]

How you were wording it is by using a standoff/riser in EVERY possible motherboard mounting position hole. ATX and mATX.

ohhhhhhhhh ok. That was my fault. For a sec I got real dissapointed in you. but now I see what you were saying. I thought you were like "lols just put risers in the 4 corners bro" but you were reading mine as "lol put risers on the tray like a light bright"

 

[cdawall]

Umm if you wish to save a bit of$$, you can look for a secondhand 550be that unlocks to four cores. It would save you quite a bit then you can bump your gpu up to a GTX 460 768mb/1gb.

there isn't much price difference between the x4 620 and a used 550BE nor is there a performance difference i would keep all of the parts together from the same place with full warranties if i was him. remember this is a first time build

 

[Black Haru]

something that helped me on my first build was sitting down and reading all the manuals to my parts before I started. (this is a bit of a pain because sometimes the English is pretty bad) even if I didn't learn too much, it gave me a lot of confidence when I was assembling.

 

[brandonwh64]

Some motherboard have holes that match the cases motherboard tray and i have seen some motherboard that had a hole or two covered up and if you mistakenly put a standoff were a hole is SUPPOSE to be but is not then it may short out so eyeball your motherboard and your cases motherboard tray to make sure you put the proper standoffs in the correct position were they are holes

 

[malcolm2608]

Umm if you wish to save a bit of$$, you can look for a secondhand 550be that unlocks to four cores. It would save you quite a bit then you can bump your gpu up to a GTX 460 768mb/1gb.

Even though i do not know exactly what unlocking extra cores does , I herd that the core that you unlock could be unstable

 

[A Cheese Danish]

Even though i do not know exactly what unlocking extra cores does , I herd that the core that you unlock could be unstable

It gives you an extra core. Example: Tri-core unlocks to Quad core. You pay for a 3-core but gain a 4-core by
unlocking the extra core. And yes, it could be unstable, but that is because the processor isn't designed for the extra core to be active.

 

[Solaris17]

something that helped me on my first build was sitting down and reading all the manuals to my parts before I started. (this is a bit of a pain because sometimes the English is pretty bad) even if I didn't learn too much, it gave me a lot of confidence when I was assembling.

this is probably the most honest thing i have ever seen posted in my years on TPU. this post tells me more about who you are then what you know..and you know what i like that. props to you.

 

[malcolm2608]

Solaris I just read your post on over volting adjusting fan speed and over clocking . That has really help me thanks

 

[malcolm2608]

It gives you an extra core. Example: Tri-core unlocks to Quad core. You pay for a 3-core but gain a 4-core by
unlocking the extra core. And yes, it could be unstable, but that is because the processor isn't designed for the extra core to be active.

So would you recommend i go that way and what amd preprocessors can i unlock?

 

[JrRacinFan]

So would you recommend i go that way

I would recommend against going that route if you can afford going native quad (deneb or propus) or x6 (thuban) right out of the "box".

and what amd preprocessors can i unlock?

Mainly the Sempron 1xx chips can unlock to dual core. And the Phenom II x2/x3 line can unlock up to 4 cores(Deneb), along with the Athlon II x3 can unlock up to 4 cores(Propus).

There is SOME reports of the Athlon II X3 lineup were Deneb based which can be unlocked up to 4 cores and L3 cache can be unlocked.

 

[malcolm2608]

I would recommend against going that route if you can afford going native quad (deneb or propus) or x6 (thuban) right out of the "box".

Mainly the Sempron 1xx chips can unlock to dual core. And the Phenom II x2/x3 line can unlock up to 4 cores(Deneb), along with the Athlon II x3 can unlock up to 4 cores(Propus).

There is SOME reports of the Athlon II X3 lineup were Deneb based which can be unlocked up to 4 cores and L3 cache can be unlocked.

Thank you but one more thing .. How do I unlock the cores, After reading what you posted i Google it and came across a few videos on YouTube and some articles that said you can do this from the bios. Can you elaborate?

 

[JrRacinFan]

Thank you but one more thing .. How do I unlock the cores, After reading what you posted i Google it and came across a few videos on YouTube and some articles that said you can do this from the bios. Can you elaborate?

This is on a Gigabyte award bios...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp74dBeVs58

very similar to most of what you would see.

 

[malcolm2608]

Simply just dont fill "all" the holes in the motherboard tray, just the ones assigned for that form factor of motherboard

Thanks short , sweet and to the point

 

[A Cheese Danish]

So would you recommend i go that way and what amd preprocessors can i unlock?

I would recommend against going that route if you can afford going native quad (deneb or propus) or x6 (thuban) right out of the "box".

I agree with this. Less hassle you have to deal with and more play time
Getting your overclock right is tough enough. But overclocking on unlocked cores would be even more of a challenge.