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Thats why you get a 5 year warranty?
Yeah that's true but if it somehow leaks you will get a new cooler, but the other component's might get damaged even thou most coolers have non-conductive water in them.
I guess I just like air coolers. :)
 

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Fair point, athough I have had 4 AIO's and never seen a leak, I am sure some have, but your principle also applies to any water cooling setup, AIO or custom, actually probably more so custom.

As for air coolers, if the OP is not doing any "serious" overclocking, I see very little point in paying $70 - $90 for an air cooler.
 
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well yet the Cryorig R1 Universal is above the Phantek :D so the best performer now is that Cryorig just the distribution might be a problem, but the ram clearance is also better on the Cryorig :)
But the Cryorig gets very noisy under load compared to the quieter Phanteks, be quiet!, and Noctua offerings. Its a balance you need to decide between performance and noise levels.

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#79
Fair point, athough I have had 4 AIO's and never seen a leak, I am sure some have, but your principle also applies to any water cooling setup, AIO or custom, actually probably more so custom.

As for air coolers, if the OP is not doing any "serious" overclocking, I see very little point in paying $70 - $90 for an air cooler.
well then Seidon 120v cheap and kinda good (i had one and i used 2 Silverstone SST AP121 fan on it)

But the Cryorig gets very noisy under load compared to the quieter Phanteks, be quiet!, and Noctua offerings. Its a balance you need to decide between performance and noise levels.

Layton
well that's true ... uh? wait a sec ... well no not true ... the Phanteks is on par :D (in dual fan ) and the OP would not need more than 25% (okay at 50% the R1 is noisier +2dBA) but at 100% its again quieter than the Phanteks 1dBA less xD
 
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OP, don't conflate the EVGA NEX with the G2, they're much different animals (FSP vs. Super Flower OEM's). To quote this review, "the EVGA NEX650G is an example of a "good enough" power supply", whereas the G2 is absolutely topnotch. However, if you are now confronting the harsh budgetary realities that most builders face, the NEX for $60 is a pretty good value.

I think anyone's GPU choice can be reduced to the philosophy of whether they intend to sell their single GPU and replace it at the prudent time, add a second card, or keep their card until its performance and value have virtually eroded. I subscribe to the first school of thought and will be selling my 780 3/4 of the way into the Maxwell product cycle once the price of that gen's comparable replacement has stabilized. So, I anticipate that I'll take a $150 net hit (paid $500, will sell for roughly $350, and replace for $500) when I upgrade every year or two in perpetuity. I'll consistently have the newest tech, minimal driver issues, better case temps, a reset rate of depreciation x1, and only one sale to transact in the secondary market. Adding a second card will have none of those benefits, a larger net loss and commercial headache, but will probably yield slightly better performance. The buy and keep option does not apply to the hardcore.

Bottom line, view your GPU as something that you are essentially renting. Get the single best one you can afford and I suspect that might be a 280X or this 280 on sale.
 
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Damn. See, I am still really stuck between the 760 and the R9 280....

But with that price and in comparison tests...I gotta go with the 280.
 
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It is clearly the smoothest move at the moment in that price range, so grab it without any reservations and rejoice in the wisdom of the purchase.

Take note, the 8% off promo code goes bye bye today though.

Enjoy!
 
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It is clearly the smoothest move at the moment in that price range, so grab it without any reservations and rejoice in the wisdom of the purchase.

Take note, the 8% off promo code goes bye bye today though.

Enjoy!
Looks like I will miss out on the little promo, even still though.
 
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I think anyone's GPU choice can be reduced to the philosophy of whether they intend to sell their single GPU and replace it at the prudent time, add a second card, or keep their card until its performance and value have virtually eroded. I subscribe to the first school of thought and will be selling my 780 3/4 of the way into the Maxwell product cycle once the price of that gen's comparable replacement has stabilized. So, I anticipate that I'll take a $150 net hit (paid $500, will sell for roughly $350, and replace for $500)
totally true,(wait a sec... what?) i pay, wait not true i won it in a giveaway ... a R9 270X (i mixed up with my 2nd hand R9 270) i sell it 190$ 3 weeks later (not my fault ... i did put it in auction at 1$... blame the bidders ) and i get a R9 290 for 190$ +9$ shipping, i lost 9$

edit: totally true for nV tho ... a 780 is mostly seen at 3/4 of the initial price
 
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Greiver, you are royally missing the plot, and you've lost nothing as of yet, you've just spent $199.

How and where did you get a 290 for that price? Did you throw some head into the mix?

OP, take a look at PC Part Picker, if you're unfamiliar. They graph the historical pricing of products at the large retailers, a very useful resource when trying to identify the opportune moment to buy.
 
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Greiver, you are royally missing the plot, and you've lost nothing as of yet, you've just spent $199.

How and where did you get a 290 for that price? Did you throw some head into the mix?

OP, take a look at PC Part Picker, if you're unfamiliar. They graph the historical pricing of products at the large retailers, a very useful resource when trying to identify the opportune moment to buy.
nono i am not missing anything :D i just say if you look hard you can get lucky (that 290 is a 2nd hand 3 month of use, no mining or abuse) it's still backed up by a 21month warranty at the shop. (which you can't achieve if you seek nV cards since even 2nd hands the price is still insane, well at last where i am ...)

oh yes i lost 9$ since i sold the 270X 190$ and paid 199$ wait ... no you are right :D (luckily in Switzerland the GPU mining never got high ... )

as fo the OP http://pcpartpicker.com/ is a good site to have a pricing idea.
 
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Damn. See, I am still really stuck between the 760 and the R9 280....

But with that price and in comparison tests...I gotta go with the 280.
Get the 280, it has 3GB of video ram and a 384bit memory bus, should last you longer over the next few years.
 
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Going for the 12dx? I'd get the 14 instead, go for the best! but the 12 works fine and its well made.
 
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looking good now :D don't forget to post the result in "your PC atm" thread :) once you assemble it!
 
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That sounds awesome, and I don't know if on purpose but everything is color coordinated nicely.
The color coordination was on purpose...not going to lie haha. Couldn't decide between red fan blades and black though. Decided to go with black though because I thought red may "pop" a little too much.

Going for the 12dx? I'd get the 14 instead, go for the best! but the 12 works fine and its well made.
Hmmm...I will have to think on that one. It looks like they are pretty similar but the 14 looks to be almost half the noise. Will have to decide if it's worth the $15 ;)

looking good now :D don't forget to post the result in "your PC atm" thread :) once you assemble it!
I most definitely will. Hoping to start ordering here soon...
 
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Thank you! Will make sure to do so :)
 
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Motherboard ASUS M5A97 EVO R2.0
Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO
Memory 8GB Kingston HyperX Genesis (2x4GB)
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Case NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal Edition)
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Haha thank you. Now comes the hardest part. The wait between now and ordering parts.
Or perhaps the hardest part is when you've spent all that money and all that time waiting for you parts to come, and for some reason one of them doesn't work properly when tested, or even worse when the rig has been fully built. Then you have to waste time trying to determine which part is broken, the annoying contact process in order to RMA the part, waiting for the new part to come, etcetera, etcetera. Now that is hard :(

Layton
 
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System Name Desktop
Processor Intel Core i5 6600k
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Cooling Cooler Master 212 Evo
Memory 16 GB Ballistix DDR4 2400
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Case Rosewill
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Software Windows 10
Or perhaps the hardest part is when you've spent all that money and all that time waiting for you parts to come, and for some reason one of them doesn't work properly when tested, or even worse when the rig has been fully built. Then you have to waste time trying to determine which part is broken, the annoying contact process in order to RMA the part, waiting for the new part to come, etcetera, etcetera. Now that is hard :(

Layton
Oh this is so true. I remember on my last build (which was my first full build) I had a very....low moment as far as intelligence goes. I got everything hooked up and tried to start up. It would power on for about half a second and then shut off. Over and over again. Turns out, I never put the standoffs in for the motherboard so it was immediately grounding out!