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Depending on which i7 you're referring to. Some i7s are LGA-1366, some of them will be LGA-1156.
Depends on which clarkfields I think too, this looks like 1156 but I think some will use a different socket. It's all very confusing.......

Wait nvm I guess I'm getting clarkdale and clarkfield confused. So 1156 for these I guess.
 
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So Intel doesn't have a uniform socket for its desktop? FYI I'm not being a smart ass. I want to understand.
 
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They have 2 sockets now. 1366 and 1156, 1366 has i7 and i9 with X58 and 1156 has i7, i5 and i3. 1156 is dual channel DDR3 and P55.
 
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They have 2 sockets now. 1366 and 1156, 1366 has i7 and i9 with X58 and 1156 has i7, i5 and i3. 1156 is dual channel DDR3 and P55.
That chart bta just posted also shows 1155. :confused: Wiki shows that one too for Lynnfield. So 3 desktop variants? A p57 or q57 is apparently a lga 1156 and lga 1155 socket. That chart also apparently says i3 will be 775. It's all very confusing.......
 
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That chart bta just posted also shows 1155. :confused: Wiki shows that one too for Lynnfield. So 3 desktop variants? A p57 or q57 is apparently a lga 1156 and lga 1155 socket. That chart also apparently says i3 will be 775. It's all very confusing.......
It may be a typo? maybe they meant 1156?
 
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The 1155 one will be the SoC e.i. CPU+GPU, while the 1156 will be just CPU
 

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I really think Intel has shot themselves in the foot with the double socket crap.
 
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It may be a typo? maybe they meant 1156?
No I don't think so I saw that on Wiki too recently. I don't get the i3 thing either, as it says 775 is DMI. So P45s are just gonna stop shipping w/ FSB? I think at this point intel maybe doesn't even know WTF they are doing and are just slinging stuff all over the place. :laugh: By this time next year their master plan should be somewhat clear at least.

The 1155 one will be the SoC e.i. CPU+GPU, while the 1156 will be just CPU
So will both chips work in both sockets? Or when buying a P57 will one need to be careful to buy the right P57 or lose out on a critical feature?
 

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I really think Intel has shot themselves in the foot with the double socket crap.
It's like the old Athlon FX days.. Not too mention early P4!
 
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Why? The market is what, 80-90% OEM? Usually people who buy prebuilt machines just use it untill it breaks down and don't give a rat's azz about what's inside as long as it works and rarely upgrade. So Having alot of READY and AVAIBLE solutions that suit every uninformed individual's need > having a single solution that has to be reconfigured every time to fullfill the user's needs

I really think Intel has shot themselves in the foot with the double socket crap.
 
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THREE sockets now? I didn't hear about 1155.. Source?
 
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If it has three sockets + an FSB-less lga 775 than this is just getting riF*(&cockulus. Maybe their business plan is to confuse the crap out of all enthusiasts so that they have to buy 1366.
 

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Why? The market is what, 80-90% OEM? Usually people who buy prebuilt machines just use it untill it breaks down and don't give a rat's azz about what's inside as long as it works and rarely upgrade. So Having alot of READY and AVAIBLE solutions that suit every uninformed individual's need > having a single solution that has to be reconfigured every time to fullfill the user's needs
There is no reason that a single socket can't suit every uninformed desktop users needs. 775 did it perfectly for years.
 
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There is no reason that a single socket can't suit every uninformed desktop users needs. 775 did it perfectly for years.
Yes but things have moved on now. The newer technology has arrived and is going to take over. Intel tries to incorporate more and more stuff into the CPU die and reduce costs** and simplify the platform
How many solutions are there for LGA775? G31, G41, G43, P35, P45, X38, X48 etc. and that's just on intel's side... How many solutions are we going to have now? p55, p53, x58

**Intel knows that it cannot compete with all the motherboard manufacturers at once, so they are playing it smart. They are trying to incorporate more and more stuff into the CPU so that they could increase their control on the market, taking away production from the mobo manufacturers and making a greater profit
 
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mmm.. 5GHZ. good bye VC bottleneck
 
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If it has three sockets + an FSB-less lga 775 than this is just getting riF*(&cockulus. Maybe their business plan is to confuse the crap out of all enthusiasts so that they have to buy 1366.
It is really disspointing. I think in the end, they'll somehow increae sales of CPUs and chipsets because of it. There has to be some sinister money making logic behind it.
 
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Yes but things have moved on now. The newer technology has arrived and is going to take over. Intel tries to incorporate more and more stuff into the CPU die and reduce costs** and simplify the platform
How many solutions are there for LGA775? G31, G41, G43, P35, P45, X38, X48 etc. and that's just on intel's side... How many solutions are we going to have now? p55, p53, x58

**Intel knows that it cannot compete with all the motherboard manufacturers at once, so they are playing it smart. They are trying to incorporate more and more stuff into the CPU so that they could increase their control on the market, taking away production from the mobo manufacturers and making a greater profit
Intel doesn't really have to compete with the motherboard manufacturers, as intel supplies them with the actual chipsets, southbridges, and licenses. Intel is primarily a supplier to MB manufacturers rather than a competitor, it does manufacture MB's, but it is still primarily in a supplier relationship with MB manufacturers. For intel, the more intel-compatible MBs are floating around the market, the better.

The only reason LGA 775 has so many chipsets is because its been around for a LONG time... wait 3 years for 1156,1155, and 1366, and they will have a ton too I mean you already have in the pipeline: p55, p57, h55, h57, q57 and x58
 
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Man I am confused. Why can't they do one socket per generation. AMD learned this lesson with the FX way back when. Hell if I know what to buy now.
 
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Intel doesn't really have to compete with the motherboard manufacturers, as intel supplies them with the actual chipsets, southbridges, and licenses. Intel is primarily a supplier to MB manufacturers rather than a competitor, it does manufacture MB's, but it is still primarily in a supplier relationship with MB manufacturers. For intel, the more intel-compatible MBs are floating around the market, the better.

The only reason LGA 775 has so many chipsets is because its been around for a LONG time... wait 3 years for 1156,1155, and 1366, and they will have a ton too I mean you already have in the pipeline: p55, p57, h55, h57, q57 and x58
I'm pretty sure the NB and SB are produced by the MB vendors and just licenced by intel
 
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Don't need to be. Roll the dice, pick a socket, stick to its upgrade path. It will be faster and/or offer more value than that of AMD at least in the foreseeable future.
Man I couldnt do that. I need to know all the details before I buy anything.