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Hey guys

I'm buying this computer in 1 month and really need opinions and if there's anything i should replace or remove, Also does anyone know if this motherboard support aura sync and if it doesn't what should i replace it with?


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These prices in EGP (Egyptian Pound)

Total of 1,658.68 USD

Everything is super expensive here so i know for this price you could get like a 2070 or sth but sighh i live in egypt so rip

Regards, :love:
 
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In general, this is a nice setup....

Whether or not you should make any changes will depend on what you intend to do with it......casual uses, gaming, or pro work etc etc

But with what you have listed so far, I would suggest swapping out the PSU for a slightly larger one, maybe 750 or 850w. This will give you some headroom if you start doing something that fully taxes the cpu & gpu, and also for future upgrades if/when needed....
 

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I wouldn’t consider that PC high end

But we need to know what you plan to use the PC for before we can offer suggestions.

If only Gaming I’d drop the 8700 for a i5 or Ryzen and shoot for a better GPU
 
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You need to ask one crucial question for a high end rig: do you want to overclock.

Right now you have an overclock-ready motherboard with a locked Intel CPU. Not ideal.

Alternative I would recommend if you are not overclocking is a Ryzen 2700X build. It comes with XFR which is an OC out of the box and requires no effort on your part. It will perform as good or better and likely cost less. Pair it with fast DDR4 and you have a great setup. Or: swap the 8700 for an 8700K on your current list. Intel CPUs with a K are unlocked for overclocking. You can click on my specs for an example ;)

Other ways to cut down on price without compromising performance: lose NVME SSDs and get SATA versions instead: twice as much capacity at a similar cost (or half cost).

Swap out the EVGA BQ for an EVGA Supernova or a Seasonic unit - likely a very tiny price increase for a much higher quality PSU. The BQ is not bad, but there are better options.

RAM: check the QVL list for your motherboard to be certain the sticks will work without hassle. Not essential but recommended for a first build.
 
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But we need to know what you plan to use the PC for before we can offer suggestions.

If only Gaming I’d drop the 8700 for a i5 or Ryzen and shoot for a better GPU

This. If gaming is priority, go for RTX 2070 since IMO 2060 is too weak if you want to run ray-tracing.
 
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This. If gaming is priority, go for RTX 2070 since IMO 2060 is too weak if you want to run ray-tracing.

For 1080p the 2060 is a perfect choice and the performance gap with a 2070 is totally not worth it. Its one of the worst perf/dollar GPUs in the RTX range. And 2 extra Grays wont change a thing for RT content... which barely even exists anyway...
 
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For 1080p the 2060 is a perfect choice and the performance gap with a 2070 is totally not worth it. Its one of the worst perf/dollar GPUs in the RTX range. And 2 extra Grays wont change a thing for RT content... which barely even exists anyway...

But the memory bump to 8GB is a needed thing if you want to use your Grays for something

BF 5 GIGARAYS or NO GIGARAYS memory Usage :D
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For 1080p the 2060 is a perfect choice and the performance gap with a 2070 is totally not worth it. Its one of the worst perf/dollar GPUs in the RTX range. And 2 extra Grays wont change a thing for RT content... which barely even exists anyway...

The 6GB of VRAM IMO doesn't make it a long term GPU, and the 2070 can be used for 1440p comfortably.
And the performance gap is bigger it if you take a cheaper CPU and put the money towards a better GPU, than getting a better CPU instead of the GPU.
 
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In general, this is a nice setup....

Whether or not you should make any changes will depend on what you intend to do with it......casual uses, gaming, or pro work etc etc

But with what you have listed so far, I would suggest swapping out the PSU for a slightly larger one, maybe 750 or 850w. This will give you some headroom if you start doing something that fully taxes the cpu & gpu, and also for future upgrades if/when needed....


Yes it's for gaming and i was thinking to swap the PSU and get something with more power

I wouldn’t consider that PC high end

But we need to know what you plan to use the PC for before we can offer suggestions.

If only Gaming I’d drop the 8700 for a i5 or Ryzen and shoot for a better GPU

We consider this build as a kinda high end in egypt since as you can see everything is tooooo overpriced

and yes it's for gaming but i'm not really a fan of amd tbh always wanted intel and nvidia idk

You need to ask one crucial question for a high end rig: do you want to overclock.

Right now you have an overclock-ready motherboard with a locked Intel CPU. Not ideal.

Alternative I would recommend if you are not overclocking is a Ryzen 2700X build. It comes with XFR which is an OC out of the box and requires no effort on your part. It will perform as good or better and likely cost less. Pair it with fast DDR4 and you have a great setup. Or: swap the 8700 for an 8700K on your current list. Intel CPUs with a K are unlocked for overclocking. You can click on my specs for an example ;)

Other ways to cut down on price without compromising performance: lose NVME SSDs and get SATA versions instead: twice as much capacity at a similar cost (or half cost).

Swap out the EVGA BQ for an EVGA Supernova or a Seasonic unit - likely a very tiny price increase for a much higher quality PSU. The BQ is not bad, but there are better options.

RAM: check the QVL list for your motherboard to be certain the sticks will work without hassle. Not essential but recommended for a first build.


You think i really need to replace the cpu? can't i just get a motherboard that's doesn't support overclocking? also for 8700k version that's gonna go over my budget by a lot

Yes i will make sure to get a better PSU for sure
And the nvme it's very very similar price for the normal ssd like 200 egp difference or something.
 
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It's a nice setup for gaming, if you are not OC-ing and it's mid-high range PC.
 

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For 1080p the 2060 is a perfect choice and the performance gap with a 2070 is totally not worth it. Its one of the worst perf/dollar GPUs in the RTX range. And 2 extra Grays wont change a thing for RT content... which barely even exists anyway...
2 extra Grays will be the difference between playable RT and Unplayable RT looking at ultra results



 
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Even though ray-tracing is new and its main reasoning to not look at getting the RTX2060 because of the "poor" RTX performance, I would just eliminate it out of the equation as its still new and it will probably be next generation that we will see the better performance.
The only thing I would change in that build is maybe different case(not familiar with thermaltake case, if they are good ignore this comment) with slightly cheaper alternative, try and get a 650/750w PSU for bit more headroom, I would ditch 240gb SSD & 2TB HDD and get a 500gb SSD for now and then add a 1-2TB HDD for storage later and change the Asus Strix to a cheaper one if there are cheaper alternatives as Asus Strix are normally the most expensive option.
Maybe have a look at Vega 56 and 64 if you don't have problem with stock or AMD GPUs and if they are cheaper than 2060?
 
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Thank you yes i'm not overclocking so i'm not sure what should i do.

your original selection was okay.. there are always those willing to spend more of your money..

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But the memory bump to 8GB is a needed thing if you want to use your Grays for something

BF 5 GIGARAYS or NO GIGARAYS memory Usage :D
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Looks to me like 8GB is problematic too, even at 1080p.... either way good point & source. Its up to OP what to do with that.

Yes it's for gaming and i was thinking to swap the PSU and get something with more power



We consider this build as a kinda high end in egypt since as you can see everything is tooooo overpriced

and yes it's for gaming but i'm not really a fan of amd tbh always wanted intel and nvidia idk




You think i really need to replace the cpu? can't i just get a motherboard that's doesn't support overclocking? also for 8700k version that's gonna go over my budget by a lot

Yes i will make sure to get a better PSU for sure
And the nvme it's very very similar price for the normal ssd like 200 egp difference or something.

For gaming clocks >> threads. You are even better off with an overclockable 6 core i5 than you are with a locked i7 - and otherwise, the AMD route really is much more interesting. 8700 non K is quite a gap if you load all cores. Most of the time it will do 4.3 Ghz. You could also cut corners a little by looking at Z370. Its not so much necessity as it is about finding the optimal CPU for your use case AND within your budget. Or as you say, non OC chipset, but that means throwing out the one and only reason to pick Intel these days over AMD, which is highest clocks.

The 6GB of VRAM IMO doesn't make it a long term GPU, and the 2070 can be used for 1440p comfortably.
And the performance gap is bigger it if you take a cheaper CPU and put the money towards a better GPU, than getting a better CPU instead of the GPU.

Good point, its just that the price of 2070 is bonkers for what it is.
 
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So final thoughts

1. Replace the psu with a 750 watt
2. Get a sata ssd instead of the nvme
3. Buy an ryzen instead of the 8700 or just change the motherboard to un overclockable version? I'm really lost in this cpu and mother board sitiuation everyone is saying different opinions.

I just want gaming high 1080p

Few ppl told me go for intel as ryzen is for productivity and stuff not sure
 

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8600k or 9700k instead of the 8700, Asrock Z370/390 Extreme 4/Phantom Gaming 9 instead of the MSI, 3200 cas14 instead of 3000 cas 16.
 
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So final thoughts

1. Replace the psu with a 750 watt
2. Get a sata ssd instead of the nvme
3. Buy an ryzen instead of the 8700 or just change the motherboard to un overclockable version? I'm really lost in this cpu and mother board sitiuation everyone is saying different opinions.

I just want gaming high 1080p

Few ppl told me go for intel as ryzen is for productivity and stuff not sure

3. is the basis of your rig. To get to the bottom of what is the best choice for you, ask yourself: A. How long do you want to use that base (CPU/board) B. will you ever chase high refresh rate gaming (>60~120FPS). If B = yes, the Intel overclockable route is the go-to. If B = no, the 8700 is OK but too expensive for that purpose. The Ryzen option sits in the middle of those two, but has more cores/threads for the same money (and you could probably get it cheaper, or as cheap as an Intel i5-K build). REGARDLESS - all of these options will 'work' fine! Factor in the price as well, or present the options you have locally in this topic, and we can guide you further.

The reason I stress taking an optimal CPU is because the real performance boosts on CPU are kinda gone and not coming back. You can last VERY long with a solid setup, so its worth investing in just a bit more.

Ryzen is just as fine for gaming as a non-overclockable Intel, but cheaper, and overclockable Intel @ 4.8 ~ 5 Ghz is the top of the food chain at this point.

Here is an official TPU review to look at - take note of the FPS at 1080p. Its sky high, you can't really go wrong either way. Good for perspective.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7_9700K/13.html

PSU: 650w will do fine for a setup like yours, but it may be a bit noisier than a 750w alternative. What matters more is to get quality over quantity - and mostly so if you are going the overclock-route.


8600k or 9700k instead of the 8700, Asrock Z370/390 Extreme 4/Phantom Gaming 9 instead of the MSI, 3200 cas14 instead of 3000 cas 16.

Good alternatives!
 
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Have to go with the above suggestions - You did state how expensive things are for you, in this instance it makes sense to make your funds go as far as possible, esp if where you are these parts may not be so easy to comeby and would only become more expensive as time passes.

Intel will do the job, no doubt BUT Ryzen is cheaper, it's unlocked vs the chip currently shown in your opening post list and the AM4 socket itself has a future vs the Intel chip's socket - Not to mention AMD boards also tend to be cheaper too.
You may also note the difference in chips/boards used can mean what's saved in one area can be used to get something a little better in another area such as more/higher rated RAM sticks, better GPU, ect.....

As Vayra suggested, ask yourself what your expected use of it will be and the answer you get will largely clear things up as to what direction to take it.
BTW I'm no "Fan" of either, I've ran AMD for years with 0 issues in the past - I'm currently running an Intel setup here and it's doing just fine.
 
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Something like a 2600X will be great for gaming with a mid-range GPU and most likely cheaper too + more upgradable platform (Ryzen 3000 coming out this year will drop in AM4 B350/B450/X370/X470 boards with BIOS update). For 60Hz gaming Ryzen is fantastic. Intel does have an advantage in raw FPS so if you're pushing 144Hz+ then something like a 9700K will be great - BUT, as I said Ryzen 3000 is coming and their performance in games is an unknown quantity at this point. I personally think Ryzen 3000 wont fully beat Intel 9th gen in gaming FPS but it will be so close while offering more threads and multi-threaded computational power. So overall on the CPU I would suggest getting a 2600X in a decent 400 series board it will run 4 GHz all core in games :)

I have used the MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon motherboard with a 2600X and it was great. Buildzoid praised the board's VRM too and it's not too expensive and offers everything you need.
 
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It's a very nice build but why did u pick a non K 8700 with a Z390 board.
 
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I think if you give us the website you're using to order the parts from we can definitely help show you variety of different builds.

If you're looking at gaming high fps on 1080p then your original build will be perfect. Like many people say you can probably change the motherboard for something cheaper and put the funds somewhere else or just use the cash for games.
 

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For me, if it was a mainly gaming setup, no overclock 1080P, I would possibly save some cash and get the i5 8600, then save a bit more cash and get the H370 board which then frees up some cash for a slightly better GPU and if there was a little left over maybe go 3200mhz ram.
 
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Plenty of options here, as I had suggested is one way to go or with the original parts shown in the opening post list - Maybe a few tweaks to that list will provide something that would be great for you.

I do know one thing is if the proposed system is expected to last for sometime then choosing higher-end components to make it viable for the future would be a smart move, even if it costs a little more. A little more spent now could save you even more in the future based on the time of needed upgrade cycle.
Have agree with Tatty - with the current Intel chip shown I'd look for a slightly cheaper board that would do the same without all the extra expense.

Makes sense if going with an unlocked chip to run a Z board but if not, anything of good quality along the lines of an H370 will do, just be picky and make sure it has all the features you want when you buy it.
If you think you might need extra USB ports, SATA ports, maybe that extra m.2 slot.... Look at what's out there and what it has to offer in terms of features before comitting because once you buy, it's yours.
Buy once, buy right.
 
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3. is the basis of your rig. To get to the bottom of what is the best choice for you, ask yourself: A. How long do you want to use that base (CPU/board) B. will you ever chase high refresh rate gaming (>60~120FPS). If B = yes, the Intel overclockable route is the go-to. If B = no, the 8700 is OK but too expensive for that purpose. The Ryzen option sits in the middle of those two, but has more cores/threads for the same money (and you could probably get it cheaper, or as cheap as an Intel i5-K build). REGARDLESS - all of these options will 'work' fine! Factor in the price as well, or present the options you have locally in this topic, and we can guide you further.

The reason I stress taking an optimal CPU is because the real performance boosts on CPU are kinda gone and not coming back. You can last VERY long with a solid setup, so its worth investing in just a bit more.

Ryzen is just as fine for gaming as a non-overclockable Intel, but cheaper, and overclockable Intel @ 4.8 ~ 5 Ghz is the top of the food chain at this point.

Here is an official TPU review to look at - take note of the FPS at 1080p. Its sky high, you can't really go wrong either way. Good for perspective.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7_9700K/13.html

PSU: 650w will do fine for a setup like yours, but it may be a bit noisier than a 750w alternative. What matters more is to get quality over quantity - and mostly so if you are going the overclock-route.




Good alternatives!

My current monitor is 60hz, But i was planning to get a 144hz not now like 4 months after i purchase the build


I have only 1 issue that's i'm not really into overclocking and taking care of cooling and making sure it's stable etc etc

That's the reason i went with the non overclockable version, also if i go with the K version what cooler should i get,

So you're suggesting I should get a ryzen instead of the intel and what ryzen should i get, btw the cpu in the list is i7 8700 and not the


Have to go with the above suggestions - You did state how expensive things are for you, in this instance it makes sense to make your funds go as far as possible, esp if where you are these parts may not be so easy to comeby and would only become more expensive as time passes.

Intel will do the job, no doubt BUT Ryzen is cheaper, it's unlocked vs the chip currently shown in your opening post list and the AM4 socket itself has a future vs the Intel chip's socket - Not to mention AMD boards also tend to be cheaper too.
You may also note the difference in chips/boards used can mean what's saved in one area can be used to get something a little better in another area such as more/higher rated RAM sticks, better GPU, ect.....

As Vayra suggested, ask yourself what your expected use of it will be and the answer you get will largely clear things up as to what direction to take it.
BTW I'm no "Fan" of either, I've ran AMD for years with 0 issues in the past - I'm currently running an Intel setup here and it's doing just fine.

Suggest a ryzen cpu please and a motherboard and then i can see the difference because i live in egypt the difference might not be worth it but just let me see the price difference and if it will actually save me some cash to replace the gpu with better.

Something like a 2600X will be great for gaming with a mid-range GPU and most likely cheaper too + more upgradable platform (Ryzen 3000 coming out this year will drop in AM4 B350/B450/X370/X470 boards with BIOS update). For 60Hz gaming Ryzen is fantastic. Intel does have an advantage in raw FPS so if you're pushing 144Hz+ then something like a 9700K will be great - BUT, as I said Ryzen 3000 is coming and their performance in games is an unknown quantity at this point. I personally think Ryzen 3000 wont fully beat Intel 9th gen in gaming FPS but it will be so close while offering more threads and multi-threaded computational power. So overall on the CPU I would suggest getting a 2600X in a decent 400 series board it will run 4 GHz all core in games :)

I have used the MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon motherboard with a 2600X and it was great. Buildzoid praised the board's VRM too and it's not too expensive and offers everything you need.

I will replace my parts with what u stated and i will see the prices and how it will go thank you.

I think if you give us the website you're using to order the parts from we can definitely help show you variety of different builds.

If you're looking at gaming high fps on 1080p then your original build will be perfect. Like many people say you can probably change the motherboard for something cheaper and put the funds somewhere else or just use the cash for games.
https://www.egprices.com/en/

Yeah but a lot is saying ryzen is the perfect way to go so i have to see if there's any difference and significant change in prices.


For me, if it was a mainly gaming setup, no overclock 1080P, I would possibly save some cash and get the i5 8600, then save a bit more cash and get the H370 board which then frees up some cash for a slightly better GPU and if there was a little left over maybe go 3200mhz ram.

Isn't it better to just get the best for your money so i don't have to upgrade for the next few years?

I was really thinking to replace it with the 8600 but ehh i said i will just get the i7 and save a bit to get the best out of the money i have.
 
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