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Are these brands serious or they we are fools?
If no one bought the cards, they wouldn't get away with it. It reminds me of the smartphone market where flagship/high-end devices have been steadily on the rise and people continue to buy.

I really want to upgrade my GPU but it's not looking great. :(
 
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Looking at this post now makes me appreciate my insane luck of the day even more: I saved 230€ over that nonsense. I'm usually a xx60 kind of guy, but I'm going to keep that GPU for as long as I can. (As far as I'm concerned, Nvidia can take all the time in the world for their 4000 series.)
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AIBs just want in on the scalping. They're not going to miss an opportunity to make more money when the market is so ridiculous. Capitalism at work, as usual.
 
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The largest German retailer Mindfactory: Only 3090 remaining at 1.749€ ($2,135) and up. Cheapest 6800 sells for 839€ ($1,025), 6800XT €1000($1,220) and 6900XT for €1379 ($1,689). Even 5600XT costs 469€ ($572). It's official, DIY PC gaming is dead in Germany unless you're willing to get robbed.
 
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@RedelZaVedno Prices are usually identical between NA and Europe, rather than a straight up conversion, like $400 = 400€ or thereabout.
 
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The way you were meant to be played.
 
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The largest German retailer Mindfactory: Only 3090 remaining at 1.749€ ($2,135) and up. Cheapest 6800 sells for 839€ ($1,025), 6800XT €1000($1,220) and 6900XT for €1379 ($1,689). Even 5600XT costs 469€ ($572). It's official, DIY PC gaming is dead in Germany unless you're willing to get robbed.
there's a nice alert discord for Europeans, with a bit of patience, and fast clicking you can get a GPU at a fair price
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Holy shit, I got incredibly lucky finding a card at msrp right after launch!

Not trying to get political, but just stating the facts, this administration really dropped the ball by not extending the tariff exemption for PC components, now the costumers get punished, can’t believe there are people who actually drank the koolaid and bought into this whole: “let’s punish countries x and y by having them pay for border walls and tariffs on their exports!”

Boy did that backfire in spectacular fashion... Here’s hoping some of those tariffs can be relaxed and we can have a modicum of normalcy soon, not holding my breath though, can’t get the genie back in the bottle so easily...


The way you were meant to be played

As much as people want to blame Nvidia or it’s AIB partners, this has nothing to do with them, these new tariffs apply to all PC parts imported to America from China, unfortunately, for some reason I can’t understand only the price increase for Nvidia products is being reported by this site, but this affects both Nvidia and AMD products.
 
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Holy shit, I got incredibly lucky finding a card at msrp right after launch!

Not trying to get political, but just stating the facts, this administration really dropped the ball by not extending the tariff exemption for PC components, now the costumers get punished, can’t believe there are people who actually drank the koolaid and bought into this whole: “let’s punish x and y countries by having they pay for walls and tariffs on their exports!”

Boy did that backfire in spectacular fashion... Here’s hoping some of those tariffs can be relaxed and we can have a modicum of normalcy soon, not holding my breath though, can’t place the genie back in the bottle so easily...




As much as people want to blame Nvidia or it’s AIB partners, this has nothing to do with them, these new tariffs apply to all PC parts imported to America from China, unfortunately, for some reason I can’t understand only the price increase for Nvidia products is being reported by this site, but this affects both Nvidia and AMD products.

You might find yourself surprised to realize that one day this is the new normal.

The China spat is not going away, and the EU might even play ball too. I do agree with you on the approach taken by the US btw don't get me wrong. Its not a good idea to burn bridges before you've built your own. But I think what's becoming clearer every day, especially with covid on top of things, is that we can't rely on China to act in our best interests and that it really never was a trustworthy trade partner. And that is on top of the ideological hurdles.
 
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You might find yourself surprised to realize that one day this is the new normal.

The China spat is not going away, and the EU might even play ball too.

Yup, like I said, I’m not holding my breath for it, this insane new world is our new normal indeed, I really hope the EU doesn’t follow our example and punish its citizens as well, they already pay a lot of taxes as is.
 
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Yup, like I said, I’m not holding my breath for it, this insane new world is our new normal indeed, I really hope the EU doesn’t follow our examples no punish its citizens as well, they already pay a lot of taxes as is.
No, the EU will take a few decades to figure out something that has already gone stale by the time they can implement it.

But still, we're thinking about it. I suppose thats a step. :D
 
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Just stop buying cards and other overpriced components. Also and preassembled configurations. Then trademarks will got sign to their bankruptcy and will change its minds.
Too bad, vast majority of consumers don't use the internet in search of "why am I ripping myself apart by purchasing overpriced stuff?", "why should I listen to advertising sites that propose me those offers?", "am I being scammed by youtubers telling me to buy this and that?". My point is pretty much that people pay upfront, instead of taking some analysis and raising questions "but is worth it?". I think if they managed to ask themselves these questions, instead of falling for the marketing slangs, I'm pretty sure the market and the world would be a better place to live in. I also chuckle at AMD saying they sold 300 mil systems, but I'm seriously assuming most of the non-prosumer sales came from pre-build PCs people bought without even having the clue what's inside and probably asked someone more knowledgeable or advices by retailers, whose only intention is to sell, not ascend the consumer and save some cash.
 
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Console gaming looks more and more attractive.
 

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Too bad, vast majority of consumers don't use the internet in search of "why am I ripping myself apart by purchasing overpriced stuff?", "why should I listen to advertising sites that propose me those offers?", "am I being scammed by youtubers telling me to buy this and that?". My point is pretty much that people pay upfront, instead of taking some analysis and raising questions "but is worth it?". I think if they managed to ask themselves these questions, instead of falling for the marketing slangs, I'm pretty sure the market and the world would be a better place to live in. I also chuckle at AMD saying they sold 300 mil systems, but I'm seriously assuming most of the non-prosumer sales came from pre-build PCs people bought without even having the clue what's inside and probably asked someone more knowledgeable or advices by retailers, whose only intention is to sell, not ascend the consumer and save some cash.
I agree with your opinion on the topic. One thing though, I think the term "overpriced" would be used if the thing you bought was available at a better price somewhere else, or there was something with better quality at a similar price. At the moment the thing you buy is the only available option, just less and less people can afford it. I'm interested to see if more people share my point of view.
 
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If and when the crypto bubble crashes (ETH and BTC are already falling fast! ) almost every Ampere GPU ever made will be dumped back on the market.

Nvidia might have been forceful and greedy with the pricing they forced partners to buy silicon from them, and then limit board sale prices, but the cards will be worth what the market can bear, and without crypto driving up scalpers we'll have a repeat of the 2018 where the market was absolutely flooded with $100 Polaris cards and nothing else could compete.

The mainstream needs something at around $300 in vast quantities and if Nvidia doesn't have a solution then people'll just buy AMD - Navi22 looks cheap enough to produce in terms of board complexity and die size, and two-thirds the performance of the RX 6800 is going to severely upset Nvidia's price/performance if AMD release it at anywhere near 5600XT prices (the closest die-size, PCB, and VRAM configuration equivalent from last generation).
 
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So if Asus didn't open their mouth, other competitors wouldn't have followed it. Fking hate this aggressive "exploit or be exploited" capitalism. No wonder why pure greed will cause humanity to annihilate itself, instead of working together in achieving greater things as one species, before we even colonize other planets. Obviously, I'm not asking stuff to be free, but prices are already out of reach for most people.
Your comprehension of Capitalism is glaringly lacking. You are operating under the faulty assumption that every company is out to screw you over. I have been around long enough to see that companies have to cover their costs, they are not out to screw you because that is bad for business for them. They want you to buy their products over their competitors, but Capitalism leads to lower prices as they have to compete with other companies to win your money.

Just because you can’t get the highest end card for $50 doesn’t mean that companies are taking advantage of you for charging more than you think a product should cost YOU. They are subject to suppliers raising their prices and offering products for a fair price.

When was the last time you designed a high end GPU? Do you have any idea how much it costs to research, develop, design, manufacture, deal with RMAs because it won’t overclock as high as you want it too, etc? Obviously you don’t and if you did you would be grumping that you are not getting paid enough to design high end GPUs.

Lastly, do you see the average person driving Ferrari’s and other expensive cars? No, because we cannot afford them. Stop grumping and buy what you can afford. The world doesn’t revolve around you, your wants, and how much you want to pay for bleeding edge hardware. I’m running a RX 570 and making due with it.
 
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These companies wanting the short term profit but market will be dead in a decade.
 
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You might find yourself surprised to realize that one day this is the new normal.

The China spat is not going away, and the EU might even play ball too. I do agree with you on the approach taken by the US btw don't get me wrong. Its not a good idea to burn bridges before you've built your own. But I think what's becoming clearer every day, especially with covid on top of things, is that we can't rely on China to act in our best interests and that it really never was a trustworthy trade partner. And that is on top of the ideological hurdles
This has barley nothing to do with trade war. These companies just want to have bigger slice/share of the wild prices that went wildly high Only and Only because Nvidia and AMD purposely are supplying very very low stocks
 
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I think sometime midyear I'll opt for a PS5 at this rate if I want to play AAA titles or exclusives and then buy second hand Ampere some 1-2 years down the line when it is actually affordable.

The boardpartners can shove their 400-500USD midrange xx60 parts up where the sun don't shine. Thinking a bit further that means 300USD entry level GPUs? Topkek.
 
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Buy an Xbox/PS5. Solved.

Make the switch and force the GPU market into desperation.
 
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Hi,
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