Frame loss across the board. PLEASE HELP

[RyanL212]

I am getting very frustrated trying to get more frames in game. Specifically warzone. I am seeming to get locked at 100-120. I have all in game settings set as low as they get. No gsync enabled, no overlays, etc.
PC Specs:
Ryzen 9 3900x 4.00GHz
EVGA Geforce RTX 2080Ti Overclocked
64GB Gskill RAM - (4)16GB sticks @ 2133
PCIe Gen3 1TB
PCIe Gen4 2TB
Samsung Odyssey 32" G7 monitor 240Hz refresh
**This is a triple monitor setup**

Dont beat me up on this thread please lol.. I only know enough to be dangerous but I am not super techy...

In any case, can someone help? I feel I should be well off with this equipment but I am not getting the performance I expect. Maybe I'm expecting too much?? Thanks for any help offered!!

 

[milewski1015]

That RAM speed is really slow. What speed is your kit rated for? Ideally you'd want 3600. What does CPU and GPU usage look like in game?

Edit: Performance seems in line with what I'd expect running at 1440p with that low memory speed. Used this video for an example of 3900X/2080Ti performance. He's running 3600 C14 RAM and at 1440p high settings getting 135ish FPS average. See if enabling XMP/DOCP in the BIOS will get your memory running faster

 

[biffzinker]

That RAM speed is really slow.

With 64GB spread over four slots the official supported speed from AMD is 2933 MHz. Use to be 2666 MHz. It also depends on single rank vs dual rank sticks.

 

[RyanL212]

Didn't know the ram speed was low. I can upgrade that if its the deciding factor. No idea what its rated for... CPU usage doesnt go above 40%... How do I check GPU usage in game?

**Face Palm** GPU usage is right in the task manager... lol

 

[milewski1015]

With 64GB spread over four slots the official supported speed from AMD is 2933 MHz. Use to be 2666 MHz. It also depends on single rank vs dual rank sticks.

Yeah for sure. But the fact that it's running at 2133 is a sign that XMP isn't enabled.

 

[RyanL212]

GPU usage is only at 17% in game

 

[milewski1015]

Didn't know the ram speed was low. I can upgrade that if its the deciding factor. No idea what its rated for... CPU usage doesnt go above 40%... How do I check GPU usage in game?

You could use the RTSS overlay that gets installed alongside MSI Afterburner to monitor GPU usage. There also might be some way in-game to enable metrics like that. But I don't think low GPU usage is the root cause.

 

[RyanL212]

Yeah for sure. But the fact that it's running at 2133 is a sign that XMP isn't enabled.

wth is XMP lol

 

[biffzinker]

Didn't know the ram speed was low. I can upgrade that if its the deciding factor.

You don’t need to buy new RAM, just hop over into the BIOS, and try setting a manual clockspeed of 2666 MHz. If that works try the next step of 2933 MHz, might require a bump in SoC voltage.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Good luck getting above 2933 MHz with 4 sticks of 64 GB. I'm surprised that my 3900X even managed to run my 4 sticks of 32 GB at 3600.

The performance problems are 99% due to the RAM speed. 2133 is horrid for Ryzen. 3200 or above is recommended especially for third gen (Zen 2) Ryzen.

 

[RyanL212]

if it helps.... running the asus tuf gaming x570 plus motherboard. (I know thats a cheaper one)

 

[Deleted member 205776]

wth is XMP lol

Xtreme Memory Profile (called D.O.C.P. by ASUS. on ASUS boards it's on the AI Tweaker tab -> Ai Overclocking mode -> DOCP). The thing you have to enable in BIOS to get your RAM to run at its advertised speed. But if your ram is advertised as 2133 then not much you can do other than manually getting the sticks to 2666/2933 (which I predict will be extremely hard) or buying a new kit altogether, preferably 2x 32 GB @ 3200 this time, if you need that much RAM.

The reason why RAM speed is this important on Ryzen is due to Ryzen's Infinity Fabric interconnect architecture which connects all the parts of a CPU together. Infinity Fabric clock speed is tied to memory clock speed (for example 3200 MHz RAM = 1600 MHz Infinity Fabric). The higher the Infinity Fabric clock speed, the higher the overall system performance. At 2133 MHz RAM, you have 1066 MHz Infinity Fabric, which is NOT a lot and will severely bottleneck your system.

 

[milewski1015]

GPU usage is only at 17% in game

Which tells us GPU performance is being limited by something else - likely your CPU due to low RAM speed.

wth is XMP lol

Xtreme Memory Profile. See @Alexa's comment above.

if it helps.... running the asus tuf gaming x570 plus motherboard. (I know thats a cheaper one)

Might have an impact in how stable we can get your 4 sticks at higher speeds.

 

[biffzinker]

wth is XMP lol

Intel’s Extreme Memory Profile, usually it’s the speed you see the sticks advertised as when you’re shopping. There’s the JEDEC safe profiles in the ROM of the sticks that the board boots with.

 

[RyanL212]

Advertised speed of these sticks is 3200Mhz

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Advertised speed of these sticks is 3200Mhz

Enable DOCP in the BIOS as I've told you. Reboot the PC, press F2 repeatedly to get into the BIOS, search for "D.O.C.P." (should be on the main page of the "Easy" layout) and select "Profile1" under it. Then save & exit. See if the PC boots. I'll be very surprised if it does.

 

[RyanL212]

Here is the order for the ram.

Also, if it doesnt boot, I can just reset to default and boot as normal?

 

[Deleted member 205776]

It is G.Skill... should be more to Ryzen's liking. My kits are Trident Z Neos.

If it doesn't boot about 3 times it should reset back to default and bring you into the BIOS again, or into Windows.

If it doesn't boot at all and you get a black screen, you can shut off the PC and follow your motherboard manual to do a CMOS reset.
I have taken the instructions from the manual:

 

[milewski1015]

Worth mentioning that OP has two separate kits of 2x16. No guarantee both kits use the same ICs which could affect stability also.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Worth mentioning that OP has two separate kits of 2x16. No guarantee both kits use the same ICs which could affect stability also.

Wasn't aware of that.. Yeah, that could throw any notion of stability out the window.

 

[RyanL212]

So for now, best course of action would be to enable the DOCP in bios and cross my fingers? Should I be looking to upgrade the RAM to something better? Or motherboard?

You all know WAY MORE than me, so thank you all so much for all your help thus far...

Also, should I have my PC backup handy in case the PC doesnt boot?

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Give DOCP a try. If it doesn't work (which I assume is the case since you use two different RAM kits, but worth a try anyway), do the CMOS reset steps I posted above. Shouldn't need any backups.

I would try to return the RAM if it was bought recently and look into your motherboard's memory qualified vendor list to search for a kit at a speed of 2933 or higher preferrably, if you need 64 GB. If not, you can go to 32 GB and get a 2x16 GB 3200/3600 CL16 kit instead which I'm sure will be fine, especially if it's Trident Z.

I'm not seeing any 2x 32 GB kits in the list so I would not risk it.

Motherboard should be fine.

 

[Vayra86]

The amount of topics surrounding COD Warzone are really numerous.

Maybe we should have a sticky help topic for it, so the knowledge can be shared more broadly and reach a bigger audience...and prevent us from repeating the same troubleshooting many times.

 

[biffzinker]

Also, should I have my PC backup handy in case the PC doesnt boot?

If the PC doesn’t POST then clear the CMOS via connecting the 2 pins then remove the jumper/metal object or remove the coin cell battery. The system will come back at default settings. Nothing to worry/stress about.

 

[RyanL212]

Alright, Im off to check on that right now.. Will be back shortly with the verdict. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH