[SOLVED] Frametime spikes/Stutters/FPS drops in all games.

[Drizzt5]

did you find i fix for this, as when i cap my fps at 129 i have no spikes but when i play the game uncapped it has the problems even though there is no major fps drop

I haven't noticed a difference when capped or uncapped, but I'm trying some new stuff to eliminate or reduce the stuttering.

edit: one thing I tried that might be helping is moving my m2 SSD from the PCIe slot to the slower chipset slot

 

[SomeOne99h]

Go to this thread and read:

[Feature Request] Set Message-Signaled Interrupts

Requesting ability to enable message-signaled interrupts on GPU and related devices (sound, USB-C) after driver installation is complete. On each driver install, Nvidia resets a registry key which disables MSI and forces devices to fall back to legacy INTx mode, presumably for compatibility...

www.techpowerup.com

Download

NVCleanstall v1.16.0 Download

NVCleanstall lets you customize the NVIDIA GeForce Driver package by removing components that you don't need (or want). This not only keeps things ti

www.techpowerup.com

Then try to enable Message-Signaled Interrupts. Or you could just do it the easy and fast way. Get "MSI_util_v3.exe" posted by Solaris17 in that thread (NOT MSI Mode Utility.exe that was posted by TikiThorsen) and then enable the setting in the fly, without the need to reinstall graphics drivers and all of that. But you need to restart for the settings to take effect. (You will see a tab about priority, don't change that.)

The post:

[Feature Request] Set Message-Signaled Interrupts

Requesting ability to enable message-signaled interrupts on GPU and related devices (sound, USB-C) after driver installation is complete. On each driver install, Nvidia resets a registry key which disables MSI and forces devices to fall back to legacy INTx mode, presumably for compatibility...

www.techpowerup.com

^^^^^^^^

 

[Loeksch]

I have the same problem. Got a new PC 2 years ago and since then I have micro stutter or frame time spikes in almost every game. I swapped every component and tried every fix I could find and nothing helped.

I love pc gaming but I‘m about to sell everything and switch to a console because this is driving me nuts

 

[P4-630]

I have the same problem. Got a new PC 2 years ago and since then I have micro stutter or frame time spikes in almost every game. I swapped every component and tried every fix I could find and nothing helped.

I love pc gaming but I‘m about to sell everything and switch to a console because this is driving me nuts

G-Sync , FreeSync?

 

[Loeksch]

G-Sync , FreeSync?

Yes I bought a LG 27GL850 because I have hoped that would fix it but it sadly did nothing.

 

[HD64G]

Changing from fake fullscreen mode to exclusive fullscreen might help. At least test it.

 

[Loeksch]

Yes I normally play every game in exclusive fullscreen and disable full screen optimization. Also I disable my second screen when gaming.

Furthermore I already tried every fix mentioned in this thread and probably a few more.
Im asking myself if Im just too sensitve and its normal to have a bit stutter in a few games.

When reading threads about this topic, there are always a few people that say, that the games are at fault and its normal. Then there is another group, that says its absolutely not normal and somethings definitly wrong.

I don‘t now, its just very tiring and frustrating.

Edit: But I don‘t want to be unconstructive so here a few things I have tried and I have not seen in this thread. Maybe it will help somebody:
- change your graphics card from line based interrupts to message signaled interrupts ( there are a few tutorials about how to to that on the internet, im not sure if im allowed to post links)
- deactivate your onboard sound card if you dont use it
- have your game launchers and games on seperate disks

 

[HD64G]

If you use G-sync or freesync have you tried with that on and off? Does it change anything to you?

 

[Loeksch]

If you use G-sync or freesync have you tried with that on and off? Does it change anything to you?

Yes I have tried any combination of, gysnc on/off vsync forced on off in driver or game, capped frames with rtss or in driver. The stuttering is always there.

 

[HD64G]

Rtss or a plugin of it might be the culprint now that you mentioned it. Did you tried to uninstall it?

 

[Loeksch]

Rtss or a plugin of it might be the culprint now that you mentioned it. Did you tried to uninstall it?

Yeah I use the nvidia driver to limit frames to 141 fps at the moment.

 

[P4-630]

OS and games loading from SSD?

 

[uJamBo]

have you checked your windows error logs?

 

[Loeksch]

OS and games loading from SSD?

OS and games are running from two seperate Samsung 970evo nvme ssds.

have you checked your windows error logs?

I have checked them, but thats a while ago. Have you something specific in mind?

 

[HD64G]

What's your CPU?

 

[Loeksch]

What's your CPU?

My full specs right now:
CPU: i7 9700k
MB: Z390 Aorus Pro
RAM: 2x 16 GB G.Skill RipJaws 3200 Mhz
GPU: Asus ROG Strix RTX3080 OC
Storage: 256 GB 970Evo Nvme (OS)
1TB 970Evo Nvme (Games)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H150i Pro AiO (iCue not installed)
Case: PHANTEKS Eclipse P500A

 

[HD64G]

Yeah I use the nvidia driver to limit frames to 141 fps at the moment.

Maybe the driver limiter cause this stuttering. Try V-sync.

 

[Domski]

I just made an account because this thread is awesome and not dead!

I have the same problems as OP and many others in here.

Below I'm going to post the link to a random RivaTuner reading.
This one wasn't that bad but there were still some times where I could definitely feel it happening (Frametimes spiking from avg 3ms to 50ms).
This is with the new rig. At first I thought the temps still seemed a bit high but according to AMD it's normal for the 5600X to go to 90°+ under load.
What's more interesting is that whenever a single thread has high load is when I often can feel a stutter, maybe that is a good place to start?

I have also tried pretty much everything, including but not limited to:

• upgrading important parts of my rig (CPU, Mobo, Drives, Monitor)
• A million things befor finally reinstalling Windows on both the SSD and HDD. (Should rule out any software issues or drive issues, because with nothing but Windows and Steam.. you know)
• disconnecting the USB 3.0 front connector
• VSYNC and fps limiter posted in this thread
• Nvidia driver uninstall (pointless due to Windows reinstall)
• Countless BIOS settings but even this shouldn't change much because of the Mobo upgrade

I'm really fucking lost as to what I should even try next. I can't afford to spend 200€ on a UPS limiter but I'm also not sure if that would even help because I recently moved country and I seem to remember having these freezes before (But I'm not 100% certain on that).

Anyone got something new? Upgrading PSU is probably what I'll do next.

Yes I normally play every game in exclusive fullscreen and disable full screen optimization. Also I disable my second screen when gaming.

Furthermore I already tried every fix mentioned in this thread and probably a few more.
Im asking myself if Im just too sensitve and its normal to have a bit stutter in a few games.

When reading threads about this topic, there are always a few people that say, that the games are at fault and its normal. Then there is another group, that says its absolutely not normal and somethings definitly wrong.

I don‘t now, its just very tiring and frustrating.

Edit: But I don‘t want to be unconstructive so here a few things I have tried and I have not seen in this thread. Maybe it will help somebody:
- change your graphics card from line based interrupts to message signaled interrupts ( there are a few tutorials about how to to that on the internet, im not sure if im allowed to post links)
- deactivate your onboard sound card if you dont use it
- have your game launchers and games on seperate disks

Following up on your comment because it's so damn relatable lol

It's not like the freezes are second long (They used to be but with the new CPU that almost never happens anymore) but they are there and for example in CS I often die if my aim gets messed up because my crosshair stays in place during a flick even though I'm moving my mouse.

And I know that I'm quite sensitive to input lag and fps changes compared to friends of mine but then again I don't think even those micro stutters should be happening at all or this frequent!

I'll repost a mild instance of the stutters and if anybody else wants to post theirs too you can download this tool called CapFrameX (Or just use Riva Tuner directly).

• This is the Frametime reading
• And a 60fps clip showcasing it a little bit
• -
• 60fps, a little bit worse stuttering but still okay(ish)

It might be hard to see for some people but if you look at the graph in the top left you will see little spikes every now and then - right when the freezes happen.
This is much more noticeable for me playing on 240hz and controlling the mouse and keyboard.

Old System:
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.7
GPUs: RX580 then a GTX 1080 TI
Mobo: ASUS ROG Strix B350f
RAM: 2x16 G.Skill Ripjaws 3200 but only working at 1200 (Tested for RAM issues with Windows built-in tool but it found no problems)
Windows 10 on an SSD, games on HDD
New System:
CPU: Ryzen 5600X
GPU: Watercooled GTX 1080 TI
Mobo: Gigabyte B550 AORUS Elite
RAM: 2x16 G.Skill Ripjaws 3200
Windows 10 on an SSD, games on M.2 SSD

 

[oobymach]

Have you set gpu to msi (message signaled interrupts) mode?

Download the msi util v3 here

MSI_util_v3

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

Run as admin, check the msi box for your gpu and apply in top right corner, restart and re-run the utility to see if your gpu has a negative number instead of a positive one. If it doesn't change update your graphics driver and re-run the utility (all you should have to do to switch to msi mode is check the box, apply and restart).

Also if it's win 10 you're using try this.

1.Search and open Exploit Protection
2.Once on Exploit protection page, set Control flow guard (CFG) to OFF.
3.Restart

And make sure nvidia control panel 3d settings/global settings power management mode is prefer maximum performance and low latency mode is ultra.

 

[Domski]

Have you set gpu to msi (message signaled interrupts) mode?

Download the msi util v3 here

MSI_util_v3

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

Run as admin, check the msi box for your gpu and apply in top right corner, restart and re-run the utility to see if your gpu has a negative number instead of a positive one. If it doesn't change update your graphics driver and re-run the utility (all you should have to do to switch to msi mode is check the box, apply and restart).

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Also if it's win 10 you're using try this.

1.Search and open Exploit Protection
2.Once on Exploit protection page, set Control flow guard (CFG) to OFF.
3.Restart

And make sure nvidia control panel 3d settings/global settings power management mode is prefer maximum performance and low latency mode is ultra.

So I just enabled MSI and .... by god I've gotta admit I shed a tear!

Been fighting with this shit for over a year and this SETTING almost fixes the entire thing?!!

I don't wanna say it's completely gone yet but I instantly felt a difference and after testing in Overwatch for about 20 minutes the frametimes rarely spiked - and when they did, it was only to less than 10ms (Before it could sometimes be over 100ms+).

THANK YOU SO MUCH

I will test other games tomorrow (Currently 6AM here I haven't slept) and update this comment if any issues arise. For anybody else, definitely try this too!

PS: You don't know how long I hesitated to click the download button on the tiny, random zip file on mediafire from a random user that needs to be run in privileged mode that you posted haha

 

[Loeksch]

Maybe the driver limiter cause this stuttering. Try V-sync.

I think i‘ve tried this before, but I will check that again!

I think i‘ve tried this before, but I will check that again!

Same behavior

 

[Domski]

Have you set gpu to msi (message signaled interrupts) mode?

Download the msi util v3 here

MSI_util_v3

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

Run as admin, check the msi box for your gpu and apply in top right corner, restart and re-run the utility to see if your gpu has a negative number instead of a positive one. If it doesn't change update your graphics driver and re-run the utility (all you should have to do to switch to msi mode is check the box, apply and restart).

View attachment 190046

Also if it's win 10 you're using try this.

1.Search and open Exploit Protection
2.Once on Exploit protection page, set Control flow guard (CFG) to OFF.
3.Restart

And make sure nvidia control panel 3d settings/global settings power management mode is prefer maximum performance and low latency mode is ultra.

Update: Tested CS:GO and Apex and now I'm quite sad again because this fix only seemed to work for Overwatch. In CS the stuttering is really bad and it's either gotten worse because of this change or just because it's a random bad day :/ Back to square one I guess

 

[asmodeuz10]

Hello! I got the same problem and i tried almost everything in this topic.
Last week i bought a gaming laptop and my fps drops to 30-40 from 90 on Warzone with all the settings on high, same happens in cs:go, the drop appear once in 20-30 seconds and lasts for a second or two but its very frustrating, most of the times it gets me when i'm fighting other people.
My specs are these:
Lenovo Legion 7i 240hz 500nits
Intel Core i7 10750h
16 GB RAM
1 TB SSD
1 integrated intel hd graphics
1 dedicated nvdia rtx 2070 with max q design
it's the same even in GTA V while in Doom Eternal i haven't noticed to happen
I will send 30E to whoever helps me deal with it

 

[LapizTheRelic]

Hello,

I am experiencing stuttering / frame time spikes in every game I play. I have spent days trying to diagnose what could be causing them but to no success. This same problem was happening on my old PC that I fully upgraded 2 weeks ago and the issue is still occurring. PLEASE if you have any input/suggestions let me know because I am losing my mind over this issue.
MY SPECS:

• -i7 9700k (not OC)
• -EVGA Geforce RTX 2080ti XC Hybrid (not OC)
• -Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB DDR4 3200mhz
• -ASUS Prime Z390-A
• -Corsair RMX 750x WATT PSU
• -Samsung 970 EVO 500gb M.2 SSD
• -6TB WD Blue 5400RPM HDD-1TB WD BLUE 7200RPM HDD-TP Link TL-WDN4800 PCIe Wifi Adapter
• -Primary Monitor: ASUS PG279Q (1440p 165hz Gsync)
• -Secondary Monitor: ASUS VG248QG (1080p, 165hz, Gsync)

MY SITUATION:

In every game I play there are frame time spikes which cause my fps to drop slightly. These spikes + small fps drops result in a very noticeable stutter. I cap my fps at 162 because that is what the Blur Buster G SYNC Guide Recommends: (https://blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/14/) ------ In my case, since I have a 165hz monitor, I set my fps cap at 162 (3fps below displays maximum refresh rate) and I also Enabled V Sync in NVIDIA Control Panel and Disabled it in games. I use Rivatuner to cap the fps. During games my framerate will be at 162 yet randomly will drop very slightly to sometimes 161, 160, 159 fps, etc and the stutter is very noticeable. I noticed that these frame stutters happen more often for example when I am moving around the map in CSGO rather than just standing still. My rig is very capable so these frame drops in CSGO make zero sense. These frame time spikes occur in both online/offline games.

Here is an example of what I'm experiencing: This is a 5 minute play session of CSGO. As I said, the frame rate only drops about 1-5 frames yet the stutter is very noticeable. Notice how the frame rate drops are in sync with the frame-time spikes. (You might have to zoom in to see the small dips in frames)
View attachment 159371
HERES ACTUAL GAME FOOTAGE:

------ This footage does not capture the actual stutters as I see them, maybe this is something related to my issue?

This issue was happening to me before I upgraded my PC 2 weeks ago, and for some bizarre reason is still occurring. I swapped every single component CPU, GPU, MOBO, SSD, PSU). The only part I did not change is my Wifi Adapter but I wanted to make sure so I removed it from PC, played games in offline mode, and stutters still occur so cant be the issue.

WHAT I'VE DONE:

• SWAPPED EVERY SINGLE COMPONENT IN MY PC (GPU, CPU, MOBO)
• Reinstalled Windows Multiple Times (Even on New SSD)Reinstalled GPU drivers (Used DDU for clean install without Geforce Experience)
• -Updated Bios/ MOBO Drivers (Audio/LAN/Chipset)
• -Disabled All In-Game Overlays
• -XMP On/Off - No difference
• -Closed all unessessary background processes
• -Turned on High Performance Power Plan in Windows
• -Turned on Prefer max performance in NVCP
• -Messed with every combination of Enabling/Disabling Gsync and Vsync - stutter still occurs in any configuration
• -Tried capping fps at lower values (144, 120, 60) - stutter still occurs
• -Disabled HPET
• -Disabled C States
• -Disabled Speed Step/ Disabled Speed Shift
• -Created an Empty Standby List Task that runs every 5 mins
• -Tested on Other 165hz monitor - no difference
• -Used different Display port - no diff
• -Turned game settings all low - no effect
• -Play games in Offline mode - no effect
• -Ran Memtest86 - no errors found
• -Disabled Game DVR
• -Plugged PC into different wall outlet in case this is somehow a power issue. Had no effect.

NOTES:

• Temperatures are all normal
• I have bench marked GPU, CPU and both are performing normally
• No overclocks
• I have searched countless other forums about this issue, none had a fix
• There has got to be some underlying cause for this, it can't just be a random occurrence. So PLEASE, if you have ANY and I mean ANY sort of advice, guidance, etc please let me know.

Thanks

yo have you found a fix yet

 

[mohamedibrahim1623@gmail.]

I have the exact same issue guys, but what happened to me is that I purchased GTX 1050 Ti Low profile and it was working perfect first 3 days then all the sudden all the same problem listed above happens in all games GPU usage fluctuates a lot causing lag spikes while average fps is 65 the lag spikes cause game to go under 10 FPS. I disconnected 3.0 usb cable from front panel, I have another one in back panel but I cannot disconnect it, it seems like it helped a bit but did not fix the problem. The only thing in my pc that I have 255w PSU and I am running GTX 1050 ti low profile. People telling me that it might be a power issue. I am stuck in this problem for more than a week now, and am thinking of returning my graphics card if I did not solve this problem soom