[SOLVED] Frametime spikes/Stutters/FPS drops in all games.

[Voodoochild1974]

"if you have a ryzen 1000/2000 chip then expect frame time consistency problems particularly in DX11 titles"

??? No! I know this isn't quite right because as you can tell in the video I just linked, its a very peculiar kind of random huge freezing not something like having bad FPS.

I know its not the Ryzen 2600 because someone with the exact same CPU as me, linked a video of himself in the exact same area of Sekiro, where his game is solid line frame time, and mine has random big spikes. It cant be that! So what do you suggest I do then??? How would I go about diagnosing what causes this and how to fix it!! IT EVEN HAPPENS IF I LIMIT MY GAMES TO 30FPS
Videos in question:

MY ryzen2600 frametimes (constant random spikes to 30-60ms)

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His ryzen2600 frametime (Completely solid 16.6ms entire time, same scene:

Too many variables for smaller frametime jumps. Streaming data, every bit of tech you have (even some chips are different in the same products) and that is hard to track down. Those bigger ones which are like 100+ remind me of my issue. I did everything, even swapped a few parts and then someone said "pull the USB 3 cable out of your motherboard" I thought no way will that fix it, but it did.

My guess is that my front panel was not grounded. I swapped my case, and all is fine.

If you have tried everything, try that.

 

[Domski]

sigh this thread is so pointless so many people thinking they have a problem when its just down to there system being just plain slow
too many Randoms in this thread posting about there 'problems' looking for a singular solution to make there slow computers faster or a solution which they can't have which is that whatever problem they think they have is just how the game runs no experience is ever flawless not even on 5000 dollar rigs thats just not how computers work

there is people in this thread with systems that are just plain old
people with systems just plain mis configured
people mistaking poor game optimization for a problem
people not understanding how the underlaying architecture of there system works (guy with the zen+ NO SHIT Sherlock everybody knows those chips have problems with certain workloads

No everybody go home this thread has devolved into a complete shitshow because of thread jacking and just plain ignorance
if you think you have genuine problem start a new thread don't crap all over this one with your random bs non problem problem

if you have a ryzen 1000/2000 chip then expect frame time consistency problems particularly in DX11 titles
the solution is overclock the snot out of your system or upgrade it to a more recent platform
its just how those cpus are for reasons I will not explain in this thread

While you are correct to some extent, there is also space for real unknown issues.

I have the newest Ryzen with the newest Software and I get stutters of the weirdest sort. And don't tell me I don't understand tge architecture when I study computer science. Next I'm going to change my RAM (which memtest says is fine) and then my PSU and after that the issue is probably unfixable because I have tried everything anybody could ever try.

 

[Momar97]

Have you had any luck this has recently starting to happen to my pc and I have tried everything

Nope. Which is so sad

 

[Vayra86]

Holy crap! Is this TPU topic in some sort of social media channel or top search result??

If you need analysis of your stutter issue, hijacking this topic wont help you.

What this topic is now is more or less the bottom barrel hobby PC support group. You will only find people with the same problems so you dont have to feel alone.

If you want real help, create a proper topic with detailed descr of the problem and fill in your system specs.

keep running in circles then idc

Im torn between reporting this topic for closure or just watching it popcorn in hand...

 

[zebra_hun]

Some tricks:

1. NVME SSD
2. Clear Windows without Bloatware
3. Good CPU
4. Fast RAM
5. Limit your FPS (Riva Tuner)
6. Beer

I play only BFV. (2560*1440/144Hz) No more FPS Drop, Framerate Spike. CPU is 10850K fix 5 GHz, and fix vcore. RAM speed 4133 MHz, and BFV running fine.
Here is 12 min gameplay. 1% low FPS is stable, it's matter. 3 spikes on timeline are my death and spawnpics. This is BFV ...
This video captured with my old 1080Ti with custom high settings: 1080Ti.
The other one with my new RTX3080 ultra preset: 3080
I'm not a pro gamer, watch just the OSD. I don't use fast sync, Vsync, only Gsync is enabled. VGA isn't overclocked, undervolted. Everything is on default, in nvidia CP, too.

 

[Yuiiski]

I’ve had the same problem since November last year. I replaced the gpu for a 3070 and stutters began, so obviously would think it was the new gpu causing them, I then replaced it with a RX 6800 and issue continued so was left confused... I then progressed to replace EVERY single part one by one doing process of elimination however I literally replaced everything and it still continued. So after this I decided to build another brand new pc with a 5600x 3060ti and the exact same issues of frame time spikes and stutters continued. So I thought maybe I was being an idiot and was doing something wrong so I bought a pre built pc of high spec yet again... same issue again! Doesn’t matter what game, online or offline they’d all have frame time spikes of different severities but it would always be there.

Seeing as I’ve gone through 4 pcs and 100+hrs troubleshooting over the months it’s safe to say it’s not hardware related, it’s not peripheral related because I done clean installs of windows using all different peripherals so it just leaves the electricity as the common denominator. I did test 1 of the pcs having issues in a different house and the issues were still there so my current thought process is that my electricity is corrupting a part or parts to the point where they wouldn’t work on a different supply of electricity anyways.

I’m carrying out the next step this week which is another new pc, a new monitor, new cables, new keyboard and mouse and taking it to a different house straight away paired with a power conditioning surge protector to test and not even attempting at mine. If it works fine I’ll then be taking it home to use and however like I said it’ll be also paired with the power conditioner etc in the hopes this cleans up the electricity before it hits my pc not even giving it the chance to ruin it. If it does continue to run smooth at mine I’ll reconnect my original peripherals one by one just to be sure for the 0.01% chance they somehow contributed to the issue.

This issue just doesn’t make sense and anyone I speak to is baffled. The same week before any of these issues when I initially upgraded and had stutters I also had a power outage... so issues have been happening since that week and now hopefully close to getting to the bottom of it, however after everything I have done... it has to be electrical transients or voltage spikes ruining the sensitive components. The electrical suppliers have also fitted a voltage regulator in my house and I’ll get results next week.

Hi, did you ever fix your issue? Your issue sounds 100% identical to mine, I have been trying to fix it since 2017 and have gone through four different PC's with the exact same issue. I am so desperate at this point.

 

[BiFino]

Hello guys!

I was struggling 3 years with the same problem as you. Games were not smooth as they should be on high-end PC. As somebody has mentioned here - I have changed every single part of my PC/monitor but without success. I have found some article regarding 1000 Hz mouse/keyboard and the software how to force them to use 1000 Hz of the polling rate. And BINGOOO now is the BFV smooth again!!!!

GitHub - LordOfMice/hidusbf: USB Mice Overclocking Software (for Windows)

USB Mice Overclocking Software (for Windows). Contribute to LordOfMice/hidusbf development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

• download the SW - click on CODE and download zip
• unzip downloaded SW and unzip folder "hidusbf" as well
• open the DRIVER folder and run Setup.exe as admin
• here you can choose what device you would like to change (I have changed all my USB devices listed there - you can try what will be best for you)
• change RATE to 1000 Hz and hit the button "install service" and then the "restart" button. NOTE - do NOT check "filter on device"
• restart your PC

Please let me know if this worked for you. I can sudenly play the games without stuttering.

Greetings from Slovakia!

 

[Yuiiski]

Hello guys!

I was struggling 3 years with the same problem as you. Games were not smooth as they should be on high-end PC. As somebody has mentioned here - I have changed every single part of my PC/monitor but without success. I have found some article regarding 1000 Hz mouse/keyboard and the software how to force them to use 1000 Hz of the polling rate. And BINGOOO now is the BFV smooth again!!!!

GitHub - LordOfMice/hidusbf: USB Mice Overclocking Software (for Windows)

USB Mice Overclocking Software (for Windows). Contribute to LordOfMice/hidusbf development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

• download the SW - click on CODE and download zip
• unzip downloaded SW and unzip folder "hidusbf" as well
• open the DRIVER folder and run Setup.exe as admin
• here you can choose what device you would like to change (I have changed all my USB devices listed there - you can try what will be best for you)
• change RATE to 1000 Hz and hit the button "install service" and then the "restart" button. NOTE - do NOT check "filter on device"
• restart your PC

Please let me know if this worked for you. I can sudenly play the games without stuttering.

Greetings from Slovakia!

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Hi, thanks for responding! I just tried what you suggested but sadly it didn't work for me. Thank you anyway.

 

[NJ000]

I have a solution, however it's probably not what you expected

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I'd advise you to read it all without skimming and please raise awareness by posting this wherever relevant.

 

[Yuiiski]

I have a solution, however it's probably not what you expected

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I'd advise you to read it all without skimming and please raise awareness by posting this wherever relevant.

Hi, I just read through your post, glad you fixed it.

Sadly, moving out isn't an option for me, I live in London which means it's way too expensive to just move out. I have honestly tried everything. I got a new PC a few days ago, plugged it in and the stuttering remained straight away. I am 26 and have been playing since I was a little kid, I have never had any issues with gaming up until I moved into my current house back in 2016, since then it's been horrible, I even get stuttering on my PS5 and Xbox Series X. I don't know what to do, gaming was my escape but now I can't even do that. I calculated how much I have spent trying to fix this issue the other day, and I have spent over £9000 since 2017 alone trying to fix it. It's so stressful.

 

[Mussels]

Hey @bbacks26 check out the thread in my sig - i had a similar issue caused by an android TV spamming my network... and yes that's incredibly weird but it is a reproduceable bug

 

[bhlzu21]

Alright, so now I‘ve made an account to share my experience with this stutter issue… and it is really weird and bizarre

specs:
CPU: Intel Core i9 11900
GPU: Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1070
RAM: 4x16 GB 3200 Corsair Vengeance

After completely rebuilding my setup I also faced this issue. After trying to unplug the USB cable and pulling the network cable and all types of fixes recommended in this thread I noticed something that I haven‘t read anywhere else. I noticed the stutter appeared pretty much once a minute and guess what else happened on my PC once a minute… MY WALLPAPER CHANGES … I literally just chose a permanent wallpaper and the stutter has been fixed. Like what… WHAT?!

 

[Mussels]

Alright, so now I‘ve made an account to share my experience with this stutter issue… and it is really weird and bizarre

specs:
CPU: Intel Core i9 11900
GPU: Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1070
RAM: 4x16 GB 3200 Corsair Vengeance

After completely rebuilding my setup I also faced this issue. After trying to unplug the USB cable and pulling the network cable and all types of fixes recommended in this thread I noticed something that I haven‘t read anywhere else. I noticed the stutter appeared pretty much once a minute and guess what else happened on my PC once a minute… MY WALLPAPER CHANGES … I literally just chose a permanent wallpaper and the stutter has been fixed. Like what… WHAT?!

Oh that's been known for a long time, especially if you use wallpaper engine

 

[nemofoot]

So glad to hear that man! Crazy how something so unusual like a USB cable can cause stuttering. Enjoy your pc!


After further testing, yes it was the usb cable all this time! I have no clue how or why this would affect my pc performance but unplugging the cable removed all stutters.


Just wanted to say thank you so much for replying to this thread! Unplugging the usb cable fixed my stutters as well! I can finally enjoy my PC now cause of you

Wow, I can hardly believe it, but unplugging my USB 3 cable may have done the job for me also, will need to do more testing to be sure but I only noticed one small hiccup and it was as the game was autosaving so I'm guessing it was the engine, thank you @bbacks26 , you may have fixed an issue I've spent nearly 3 months trying to fix for me also!

 

[Mussels]

Wow, I can hardly believe it, but unplugging my USB 3 cable may have done the job for me also, will need to do more testing to be sure but I only noticed one small hiccup and it was as the game was autosaving so I'm guessing it was the engine, thank you @bbacks26 , you may have fixed an issue I've spent nearly 3 months trying to fix for me also!

Glad you found a fix, thanks for posting it helped you too
PC's are so complex, some really weird things can cause problems

 

[Wasaki]

Some tricks:

1. NVME SSD
2. Clear Windows without Bloatware
3. Good CPU
4. Fast RAM
5. Limit your FPS (Riva Tuner)
6. Beer

I play only BFV. (2560*1440/144Hz) No more FPS Drop, Framerate Spike. CPU is 10850K fix 5 GHz, and fix vcore. RAM speed 4133 MHz, and BFV running fine.
Here is 12 min gameplay. 1% low FPS is stable, it's matter. 3 spikes on timeline are my death and spawnpics. This is BFV ...
This video captured with my old 1080Ti with custom high settings: 1080Ti.
The other one with my new RTX3080 ultra preset: 3080
I'm not a pro gamer, watch just the OSD. I don't use fast sync, Vsync, only Gsync is enabled. VGA isn't overclocked, undervolted. Everything is on default, in nvidia CP, too.

Hey zebra_hun how do you feel?
may I ask you what your bios setting for 10850k ? and which ram model you have?
Thanks

 

[Kanon82]

Se sei disposto a darmi tutti i diritti con teamviewer posso dare un'occhiata. Ho già risolto molti di questi problemi se cerchi nei miei messaggi.

hi, I saw this post, and I read that you have solved these problems several times, I have 2 PCs that are practically similar, and in every game, every time something specific happens it does micro stutter, like load a zone .. a new item ..

CPU Ryzen 9 5900x
massimo b550 gaming carbon
Crucial ballistix 32gb 3600hz
GPu rtx 3080
psu 750w bequiet

 

[Vayra86]

Alright, so now I‘ve made an account to share my experience with this stutter issue… and it is really weird and bizarre

specs:
CPU: Intel Core i9 11900
GPU: Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1070
RAM: 4x16 GB 3200 Corsair Vengeance

After completely rebuilding my setup I also faced this issue. After trying to unplug the USB cable and pulling the network cable and all types of fixes recommended in this thread I noticed something that I haven‘t read anywhere else. I noticed the stutter appeared pretty much once a minute and guess what else happened on my PC once a minute… MY WALLPAPER CHANGES … I literally just chose a permanent wallpaper and the stutter has been fixed. Like what… WHAT?!

Who'd have thought that presenting load to a computer might cause the CPU to do work it can't do for another application at the same time. Especially if both are a graphics related load!

Mind blown, imagine a world where Single core CPUs were all you had

 

[Mussels]

hi, I saw this post, and I read that you have solved these problems several times, I have 2 PCs that are practically similar, and in every game, every time something specific happens it does micro stutter, like load a zone .. a new item ..

CPU Ryzen 9 5900x
massimo b550 gaming carbon
Crucial ballistix 32gb 3600hz
GPu rtx 3080
psu 750w bequiet

Do you have wallpaper engine running, or are you on windows 11 with TPM enabled?

 

[Kanon82]

Do you have wallpaper engine running, or are you on windows 11 with TPM enabled?

Win10, 21h2 if I'm not wrong, no wallpaper engine

 

[Mussels]

Win10, 21h2 if I'm not wrong, no wallpaper engine

Try disconnecting your network cable if you can, see if it goes away
Then, try setting your network card to private instead of public in windows

(This is related to a thread in my forum signature, where a s;eeping android TV caused my PC to stutter in games
Since you mentioned two PC's, it made me think what may be in common (the network)

 

[Kanon82]

I have to try, I had never thought about the network, since stuttering always happens in the same points or situation .. I tried to change the rams and nothing is not those

 

[eidairaman1]

I have to try, I had never thought about the network, since stuttering always happens in the same points or situation .. I tried to change the rams and nothing is not those

If it occurs at same points in a game, it is the game itself then. You would need to take it up with game maker.

 

[xrobwx71]

To further the network thought, is there anything polling the network at intervals like wifi analyzers or the like?

I had a similar issue with Nirsofts WifiWatcher. Every time it polled, I had a stutter. Glasswire can sometimes cause this depending on its settings.

 

[chaoshusky]

Yep, it can be strange and seemingly silly things such as leaving something connected via USB that you don't need or your wallpaper changing every 10 minutes..

However, here's what fixed any other random outlying issues i had with sudden stutters/spikes that didn't happen all the time, usually fine but sometimes nope:
Number one: Have a UPS with line smoothing between your AC supply and PC's PSU, try not to have it going through too long of a cable or too many extensions, etc. Also avoid having many things plugged in to the same extension if you still have issues. I don't but none of the switching/linear supplies also connected are causing noise on their output side.
Number two: Use Process Lasso Pro or similar, as this will smooth out random events that affect threading calls/priority, under Windows 10 or 11 (I'm on 11 enterprise) and this was actually the biggest help, as i got sick of using PRIO to tune it myself!
Number three: keep your mobile/cell phone away from your PC! Sounds silly, but you'd be surprised, especially if you have an annoying half glass case like i do! Especially useful when overclocking as well as the first point!
Number 4: try to avoid v-sync or frame-rate locks at the same time! Depending on game or personal preference, or how many FPS you want to pin at, this will vary between how each game/engine handles these options, so experiment. Also, don't feel you *have* to set things to say, 165FPS if your monitor is 165.. That means they support refresh rates *upto* that, so it should run fine below..
And number 5: Don't use WiFi for gaming or your main PC! Even though its very mature these days, you *will* notice a difference most times. I'm not in a crowded household, but making sure your machine is in a DMZ if you are sharing can help too, or at least a way to give you network priority if online games only are suffering.