Friend Fried My PC?

[newtekie1]

Never EVER heard of doing this but knowing how the switches work, I don't see how this procedure would do anything but make your fingers tired. On a PC (notebooks are different) those switches lead to "momentary" circuits meaning once the press ("closing" of the switch) registers with the circuit, the switch is ignored until the button is released AND pressed again. So while that procedure could not have done anything to fix the system, it could not have caused any harm either.

This isn't true, the switches are momentary switches, which means they are only closed when they are pressed and automatically open the circuit when released. However, they are not ignored when they are held down. The motherboard will monitor the switches status constantly, they are not "ignored" until they are released. Hence why holding the power button triggers the computer to shut down after ~10 seconds of being held. The status of the switches are constantly monitored.

That said, holding both while powering on the computer won't cause any harm.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Hence why holding the power button triggers the computer to shut down after ~10 seconds of being held. The status of the switches are constantly monitored.

That, of course, depends on how the function of the power button is set in the BIOS (it is 4 seconds, BTW, not ~10). If you change the setting to instant off, it does just that and to my point - keeping the button held down longer does nothing as it is then ignored. It may still be "monitored", but it will not take any further action until released and pressed again. If set to "Delay 4 seconds", holding it longer than 4 seconds does nothing, as I described earlier.

The reset button is as I described.

But yes, I should have been more clear. While it may not technically be ignored, the point I was making is that holding it down serves no other purpose. That is, it does not "bleed" or drain the circuit of residual voltages, and pressing it in conjunction with the reset button does nothing.

 

[John Naylor]

1. My favorite design improvement ever was the addition of MoBo Diagnostic LCDs .... you don't have to spend a lotta bucks ($120ish) to get one either. If we're asked to build a box, I'd shy away from any build w/o one. Beps are just so "mid 90s" ....

The manual is the best way to see what troubleshooting methods are available to you. No need to waste your time with beeps. Looking at our manual, the LED section begins on page 2-18 File name E7112_Rampage_IV_Formula.pdf

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/RAMPAGE_IV_FORMULA/HelpDesk_Manual/

The debug LEDs are described on page 2-21 should see these in the upper right hand corner with standard ATX board mounting. The Debug Code table is on following page (2-22 thru 2-25). You also have CPU, DRAM, VGA and Boot device LEDs as well as Mem OK LED ... again see page 2-2 of manual.

2. How old is the SSD ? In last 8 years I have had 3 failures, one of those being a warranty replacements.... modern ones have done better ... no failures in those bought within last 5 years. Just curious ... why NAS drives in a desktop ?

3. The PSU model number is hard to determine from the description. RS-700--ACAB-B1 V2 is one option, not much I can tell you about it other than nobody reviewed it who is worthwhile reading. It's a single rail design by CWT with a 3 year warranty. Another possibility is the RS-700-ACAB-D3, not much I can tell you about that one either, except that again, nobody reviewed it who is worthwhile reading. It's a single rail design by Enhance Electronics with a 3 year warranty. If it's at or near it's warranty in age, I'd consider replacing it. Id test in another box to see if it's functioning. If and when ya get around to it. I'd recommend the Seasonoic Focus Gold Plus which is crazy cheap right now and has 10.0 / 10.0 jonnyguru Performance / Build Quality scores. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151187

4. One thing we almost always do with SSD builds in create an identical partition on the 1st HD or SSHD and install a 2nd copy of the OS. This comes in handy when troubleshooting if the SSD is borked, can simply boot from BIOS Boot manager to the alternate OS install. The reliability of the SSD should be determined.... I find one of these invaluable for checking SSD condition using another box. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIADA27XA4493.

5. Don't waste time with jumpers and batteries. On that board, you don't even have to open the box to clear CMOS. Look on your rear I/O port at back of case. There' a button just down from the PS/2 power w/ two USB 2.0 ports that has a arrow circle on it.

6. Memtest 86+ is a great means to test if RAM is the problem... assuming you can get it to load / get past other post problems.

 

[Zombiekiller413]

I hit it and then BLASTOFF! The new expensive graphics card BLASTED it's FAN like 200%!!! It sounded like Aventador revving and dust was spitting half a meter sideways out of the fan!

Good luck with your new board. Hopefully that works out for you.
in the future though, a little routine cleaning can go a long way.
dust is conductive and can fry components.

 

[gainteck]

Hi everyone! The new motherboard works like a charm! And also the main culprit was half of my ram was faulty. I replacled the ram and now everything is great. The faulty ram prevented even the new motherboard from posting. I had no idean half of ram that was faulty could prevent POST.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I had no idean half of ram that was faulty could prevent POST.

Depends on the fault. If there was an internal short in the stick or one of the modules, it could create an excess current situation. Your board simply might have refused to boot as a safety measure - a good thing!

Glad you got it sorted out and thanks for posting your followup.

 

[R-T-B]

Never EVER heard of doing this but knowing how the switches work, I don't see how this procedure would do anything but make your fingers tired.

It's the procedure on some boards to force a boot from the secondary bios. No idea why he was trying that though.

 

[Devon68]

Nice to see a happy ending.

 

[Caring1]

Hi everyone! The new motherboard works like a charm! And also the main culprit was half of my ram was faulty. I replacled the ram and now everything is great. The faulty ram prevented even the new motherboard from posting. I had no idean half of ram that was faulty could prevent POST.

A single beep at startup is a sign of a RAM error, i'm surprised non of the experts picked up on that.

 

[eidairaman1]

Depends on bios manufacturer

 

[delshay]

Got myself one of these, just for fun.

 

[juiseman]

Nice.
Have you tested it yet?
So, how does this work? I don't see any IC's on the PCB; so it must be
simply reading info from the motherboard passed through the PCI-E bus?
I'm interested....

 

[delshay]

Nice.
Have you tested it yet?
So, how does this work? I don't see any IC's on the PCB; so it must be
simply reading info from the motherboard passed through the PCI-E bus?
I'm interested....

I'v tested it on a few 939 motherboards. It's very advance & flexible. The manual states it also works on laptops & mobile phones. I'm going to modify it & add-in the missing six LEDs. It has one massive big chip on the back of the main card.

 

[juiseman]

Very cool;
thanks for sharing!

Happy Friday!!

 

[delshay]

This is how it connects to laptops & mobile phones.

 

[erpguy53]

Hi everyone! The new motherboard works like a charm! And also the main culprit was half of my ram was faulty. I replacled the ram and now everything is great. The faulty ram prevented even the new motherboard from posting. I had no idean half of ram that was faulty could prevent POST.

sometimes checking on the ram sticks themselves (anything "physical" like any visible scratch marks on the gold contacts on the bottom of the ram sticks or any of the black modules on the chips that have any "cracks" on them) may also cause the board not to POST or make beeping sounds. I have had that a few times when ordering ram chips online and have gotten very few bad faulty ones

 

[gainteck]

This is how it connects to laptops & mobile phones.

And how does it have to be read, how do you know when something is faulty?

A single beep at startup is a sign of a RAM error, i'm surprised non of the experts picked up on that.

Thanks so much for this info. Those rams were probably faulty since I got them. I always heard a beep. And now there's no beep.

Does all of this mean windows memory diagnostics and aida64 stress test are useless? They never shown any error.

 

[R-T-B]

And how does it have to be read, how do you know when something is faulty?


Thanks so much for this info. Those rams were probably faulty since I got them. I always heard a beep. And now there's no beep.

Does all of this mean windows memory diagnostics and aida64 stress test are useless? They never shown any error.

My computer does a single beep every start to indicate post pass, so what he is saying is not universal.

 

[delshay]

And how does it have to be read, how do you know when something is faulty?

If you don't understand or can't remember the post code, the LEDs to the right is pointing you what the problem is, where it says RAM, CPU, CLK ect, ect.