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#1
I'm trying to build a full spider computer for a friend for less than $1400. Here is the current list of parts:

Vista Ultimate 64-bit- $190
Phenom X4 9850- $240
Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 500 gb- $90
ASUS M3A32-MVP Deluxe- $190
Linksys 802.11n wireless card- $70
4x Sapphire 3850- $500
OCZ GameXStream 700watt- $125- $35 rebate
Mushkin 2gb DDR 800- $43
Xigmatek Contact Cooler W/ Fan- $40
Samsung 20 DVD-RW- $27
Cooler Master Cosmos 1000- $210 (only because it has carrying handles)

The problem is that he's already $300 over budget! Whatever happens, he would like to keep the full phenom core system (4x 3850, 9850). Also, his other requirement is that the case has carrying handle(s) so that it is easier to take to lan parties. What can I safely get rid of? Wifi is recommended.

I also have to convince him that he cannot get a $200 monitor as well and still stay at $1400. :laugh:

Thanks.
 
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HUH?!?!?! 4 Sapphires. What mobos have 4 PCIe 16X?
 

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Buy a very cheap case and add your own handles. I don't see anywhere you could skim $300..
 

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Could I go with a cheaper psu? The Asus motherboard has 4 pci-e x16 slots.
 
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Could I go with a cheaper psu? The Asus motherboard has 4 pci-e x16 slots.
No you can't. Each at full load takes up 170 Watts. 170 x 4 = 680 :(. You can spend higher not lower.
 
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Mebbe switch to the MSI K9A2 Platinum or DFI Lanparty and save some $ (DFI only has 3x PCI-E slots though). Other than that, I can't think of where exactly to save $ other than mebbe just getting a 3870x2 or 2/3 3870's. Also, look around for a different case, I just picked up at Cosmos 1000 today and it is damned heavy.
 

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I've heard that the MSI doesn't overclock very well. That's the only thing keeping me away from it.

Does anyone know of any cheap, light cases with handles?
 
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I've heard that the MSI doesn't overclock very well. That's the only thing keeping me away from it.

Does anyone know of any cheap, light cases with handles?
MSI does overclock well. You've heard of it but not really experienced it so that makes a difference. I think A MSI P7N can get a E8400 to 4 GHz air easy.
 

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I'm talking about that specific motherboard. I have heard good things about MSI in terms of overclocking as a whole though.
 
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I have that MSI, had some nice clocks on it with my 5000+BE (had a few stable settings at 3.2 with various combos of multi and FSB).
 

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get a pp&c 750w crossfire edition.. better psu and more amd-ification
 

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Drop the case down a notch (you can add handles for cheaper), drop the wireless card (pick it up when you can afford it), take the Phenom down a level to a 9750. Drop one of the sapphire's for now run a tri setup. Other than that dont know what you will be able to cut out. Hes really tying you up with a 1400.00 budget limit, for a true spider that will be tough to do.
 
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The 3850's destroy any upgrade path, and they're costing quite a bit. Any monitor that's 200 dollars won't see that much benefit from 4 GPU's, so I'd say get 2 3870's max. I'd also either get a cheaper case and make your own handles or bear with the awful thought of carrying it.

You can also get this instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131224
The same ASUS board but with wifi onboard. It's 40 dollars more, so it saves you 30 bucks.

So that's about ~75 off the case, 30 off the wireless, and about ~150 from video cards.

The other alternative is... don't groan, but go with Intel. If you picked up a 3870X2 (or 2 3870's if X38 chipset), e8400 / Q6600, and a P35 or cheap X38 w/ wifi, you'd save money as well as getting a huge performance boost. Just some thoughts for you, so good luck!
 
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Why get 2 3870s instead of one 3870x2 which can outperform them. Oh yea that would waste the other 3 PCIe 16X slots.
 
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the old msi's oc badly new ones oc better than some asus boards, also why not go cheaper on the wireless stuff?? thats 70 bucks could go for a better psu. also 90 for a hdd?? get a 320gb wd for 50 and that is more than enought to start with he can always add another later for a raid setup.

EDIT: you want to carry a cosmos!! those things are like 80 pounds!
 

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ahhhh.. crap
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It seems pretty unrealistic to ask for a spider quadfire phenom comp for less that $1400. You can definately go cheaper on the case, but you seem to have good prices on the rest, he's just gonna have to decide if price or 4 gpus is more important. I personally would take off at least one of those, actually, I would take off two then get a couple of 4850s down the road for hybrid quad-fire. He'll get better performance from those, and not waste so much on technology that isn't going to do much but elongate his e-penis. IMO anyway.

edit: And what monitor is he getting? Is he gonna try to use 4 gpu's on a sub-$200 monitor? Thats makes no sense. Unless he's at something higher than 1920x1080, he's not gonna get much from that fourth one. Anything lower than that and the third is being wasted also.
 
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HDD's too expensive. Should try 2 WD Caviarrs 320 GB $50 each?
 
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I can see a way you can save $190 straight away, but suggesting you illegally acquire Vista from mininova or piratebay would be wrong so I wont... :rolleyes:
 

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I was looking at pure speed in a single drive. RAID would be good also.
 

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#24
Maybe I can convince him to get a carrying harness and a cheaper case...

I didn't know that the 4850's were backwards compatible with the 3850's. Is that possible?

He currently has a 1440x 960? monitor. :cool:
 
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#25
Hybrid crossfire allows for different cards and to cf together, as far as I know it can be done w/ different generations too. And at 1440x960, three or four 3850s will not add much to performace, it might get him some higher benchies, but he won't notice much if anything in games. Two would be plenty.