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It is because AMD's fans on their coolers are smaller than Intel's. Intels fans are ~100mm, AMD's are ~60mm. But even Intel's coolers are still pretty cheesy compared to what they used to be, and they do get loud if you put the chip under load for a while.

I wish AMD and Intel would go back to selling chips without the stock heatsink for $5-10 cheaper, because both stock solution sucks, so I'm always buying an aftermarket cooler.
they can't really do that as the OEM's need a solution
or would you rather go back to the days when every Off the shelf Walmart machine had some barely adequate pos
 

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they can't really do that as the OEM's need a solution
or would you rather go back to the days when every Off the shelf Walmart machine had some barely adequate pos
OEMs don't get coolers from AMD or Intel. They by tray processors and supply their own coolers.
 

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How on earth do you keep your temps so low under a load?

Mine will go up to 50-52C running OCCT or Prime95

Gaming it will run around 45-50 depending on ambient temp and the game being played.

It idles from 29-37 depending on the indoor ambient air temp.
No idea. I have the hyper 212 with Tuniq TX2 thermal paste. Just observed 41*C while playing starcraft. Running 1.3v and 4ghz.
 

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No idea. I have the hyper 212 with Tuniq TX2 thermal paste. Just observed 41*C while playing starcraft. Running 1.3v and 4ghz.
That isn't what we mean when we say load. Load is 100% load for an extended period of time, generally using something like Prime95 or OCCT.
 

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OEMs don't get coolers from AMD or Intel. They by tray processors and supply their own coolers.
pretty sure the "stock cooler in the box" is the one thats on 90% of all dells and Hp's I have seen they may not get the coolers directly from amd or intel but there they same model
 
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Intel i5-2500K & 3570K coolers have a heavy disk of copper over the heat spreader that looks & feels substantial, but the fan is a joke. It rarely gets noisy because of it's low RPM, and CFM feels like about 20 at top speed. I was going to use the fan for something else until I saw how useless it was - now I have a matching pair of paperweights...
 

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That isn't what we mean when we say load. Load is 100% load for an extended period of time, generally using something like Prime95 or OCCT.
I am fully aware that full load is Prime 95, I have kinda been around for a while, not exactly a noob.

Fact remains that I never said "Under Load" because I don't use Prime 95 when I am using the turbo clocks of the chip. Now if I were pushing over 4.5ghz, yeah, I might be using it and your argument would be valid. In my use, which is web browsing and gaming, I hover right around 40*C.
 
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i just ordered the Hyper 212 EVO. it should be good
 

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My server is on a Hyper 212 Evo with 1 fan idling at 31 degrees. Second fan should be arriving soon.
 

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pretty sure the "stock cooler in the box" is the one thats on 90% of all dells and Hp's I have seen they may not get the coolers directly from amd or intel but there they same model
Nope, in fact the ones Dell uses are a little better than the Intel model. Dell's uses bolt thru mounting instead of the push pins. They usually look very similar but they don't get them from Intel or AMD, and even if they did the coolers would be bought separate from the processors, because OEMs don't buy boxed processors. So there's no issue with selling just the processor at a lower rate.

I am fully aware that full load is Prime 95, I have kinda been around for a while, not exactly a noob.

Fact remains that I never said "Under Load" because I don't use Prime 95 when I am using the turbo clocks of the chip. Now if I were pushing over 4.5ghz, yeah, I might be using it and your argument would be valid. In my use, which is web browsing and gaming, I hover right around 40*C.
You never said under load, but you implied it. When you say your processor never goes over 40°C, it implies under load, otherwise that is a completely pointless statement. Anyone that has "been around for a while" would know that. Which is exactly why the follow up question of how my manage to keep your processor that cool under load with Prime95/OCCT was asked, because when someone makes a statement like you did it is assumed to be under load.
 
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i just ordered the Hyper 212 EVO. it should be good
Beware that your fan's sleeve bearing will probably start wobbling within a year. I own a couple Hyper 212 EVOs and they all have replacement fans now. :shadedshu
 

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Beware that your fan's sleeve bearing will probably start wobbling within a year. I own a couple Hyper 212 EVOs and they all have replacement fans now. :shadedshu
this is why my all the fans in my case get oil every 3 months
 

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this is why my all the fans in my case get oil every 3 months
Yep, I do the same. I oil all my fans every time I dust out the computer. Though sometimes I stretch it out to 6-months.

And the first time I oil the fan I pop that little retainer off so that the blades pull of easily from the front of the fan so I don't have to keep pulling the back sticker off.
 

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You never said under load, but you implied it. When you say your processor never goes over 40°C, it implies under load, otherwise that is a completely pointless statement. Anyone that has "been around for a while" would know that. Which is exactly why the follow up question of how my manage to keep your processor that cool under load with Prime95/OCCT was asked, because when someone makes a statement like you did it is assumed to be under load.
I don't know what your problem is, but I am trying to be civil since this is TPU and not GN. You are acting like the ideas in your head are absolute truth and anyone else is just wrong. Basically, you're acting like an arrogant dick. I don't imply anything, if it wasn't clear, don't assume anything, just ask me if it was under a 100% load.
 

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I don't know what your problem is, but I am trying to be civil since this is TPU and not GN. You are acting like the ideas in your head are absolute truth and anyone else is just wrong. Basically, you're acting like an arrogant dick. I don't imply anything, if it wasn't clear, don't assume anything, just ask me if it was under a 100% load.
Some one did ask you, they specifically said how do you do it under load, and your response was you have no idea and then went on to say the temps you reported were in a game.

That is specifically why I said what is expected when people say "load".

You responded to a question about load temps with temps that aren't load temps, that is why I corrected you, get over it.
 

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Beware that your fan's sleeve bearing will probably start wobbling within a year. I own a couple Hyper 212 EVOs and they all have replacement fans now. :shadedshu
yes, i did hear that problem. but it performs great, and i can allways get some deepcool iceblades to replace :D
 

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Yep, I do the same. I oil all my fans every time I dust out the computer. Though sometimes I stretch it out to 6-months.

And the first time I oil the fan I pop that little retainer off so that the blades pull of easily from the front of the fan so I don't have to keep pulling the back sticker off.

be careful when using the fan as an intake. that keeps the blades at the same level with the frame. pop it out and the blades will scrap with the chassis once you mount the fan.
 

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Some one did ask you, they specifically said how do you do it under load, and your response was you have no idea and then went on to say the temps you reported were in a game.

That is specifically why I said what is expected when people say "load".

You responded to a question about load temps with temps that aren't load temps, that is why I corrected you, get over it.
Again, an assumption, he stated that he hits 50*C while gaming and I noted that I hit 41*C in Starcraft.
 
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Come on guys.. no need to drop the F-bomb over a simple discussion like this.

JC316, I was under the impression "under load" meant stressing the CPU 100%

Either way, those are good temps.

Can we all get along now? :)
 

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AMD have inluded much better coolers since socket 754 era gear.
The cooler packaged with my FX chip is similar to what is included with current sempron cpu`s.
I was expecting glorious heatpipes, but alas this is not the case.
my options at the moment are:

1. Ghetto mount a scythe ninja which i have no mounting hardware for to a brand new system.

2. Ghetto mount a zalman cnps9500 which i have only 1366 mounting hardware for to a brand new system.

3. Hope that a kindly TPU`er who is using supirior intel parts in thier system can spare the AMD mounts from the Ninja or Zalman coolers they are using and hook me up....:respect:
This is some kind of stupid joke correct? AMD and Intel sell CPU's with a basic cooling system in the box. Something designed to handle the OEM TDP of the CPU. It does that and it does that just fine. You also did not purchase a flagship CPU you purchased a midrange unit thats why there is an entire series above the one you have. Just because it says FX on it doesn't make it the best AMD sells that name replaced Phenom. Do some research before complaining about something that was well known.
 
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This is some kind of stupid joke correct? AMD and Intel sell CPU's with a basic cooling system in the box. Something designed to handle the OEM TDP of the CPU. It does that and it does that just fine. You also did not purchase a flagship CPU you purchased a midrange unit thats why there is an entire series above the one you have. Just because it says FX on it doesn't make it the best AMD sells that name replaced Phenom. Do some research before complaining about something that was well known.
No, I Purchased a flagship unlocked multi Zambezi cpu with FX branding
after much research, what i expected was the sweet spot for performance and overclocking headroom. the cpu delivers.
Unfortunatley, in error i also came to expect a capable well crafted heatpipe cooler.
It was the emission of the quality cooler in favour of a poorly executed aluminium unit that was packaged with my new CPU resulted in my disappointment.
 

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#49
No, I Purchased a flagship unlocked multi Zambezi cpu with FX branding
after much research, what i expected was the sweet spot for performance and overclocking headroom. the cpu delivers.
Unfortunatley, in error i also came to expect a capable well crafted heatpipe cooler.
It was the emission of the quality cooler in favour of a poorly executed aluminium unit that was packaged with my new CPU resulted in my disappointment.
No you purchased a midrange FX chip. Notice how you lack two whole cores? Notice how its only a 95w CPU? Notice how it ships with a terrible little aluminum sink that came with the tri core Rana based chips? Notice how it comes in a plain jane white box instead of the aluminum tin the high end ones come in?

Buy a high end 125w chip get a high end heatpipe cooler. Same recipe AMD has had since phenom's came out.
 
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#50
The FX6300 came with the same heatsink suplied with sempron 140 cpu`s

AM3 FX > AthlonII > Sempron

The flagship Architecture cpu that ships with the same cooler as the base model, I feel is reason enough to be dis-satisfied.

This is my OPINION and personal perception of value. your milage may vary:)