G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-6800 CL34 2x 16 GB

[ir_cow]

G.SKILL is once again pushing the boundaries of high performance memory with the newest generation of DDR5. These new Trident Z5 kits range from 6800 MT/s to 8000 MT/s. Equipped with a 6800 MT/s XMP profile, using modest CL34-42-42-108 timings, G.SKILL is ready for those new Intel Z790 motherboards. Tag along as we check out the G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-6800 and test our hands at some serious high frequency overclocking!

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[jsfitz54]

@ir_cow
Per your comment: "the lack of a thermal pad on the PMIC controller and surrounding components may be a concern for those looking to overvolt the memory outside of G.SKILL specifications."

Is this something that can be easily handled by adding another thermal pad to that area?
Have you tried it?
Has the overall heat increased to the spreader in such a way that the ICs, Hynix memory chips, are negatively effected by transferred extra heat?

 

[ir_cow]

@jsfitz54 its more of a concern that high voltage will burn out the PMIC quicker if its not cooled. I know its only 5-7 watts of heat. But still it is something to consider if your doing like 1.5-1.6v voltage. Only matters for hardcore overclockers. now that would thermally dump more into the heatsink, but direct airflow is required anyways, so it's a big deal.

I found this early submission of DDR5-8000 OC I forgot about. Its with a ES CPU and a bunch of voltage. For some reason if I lower the ring to 4Ghz (below stock), 8100 was stable. IDK what that's all about.

https://hwbot.org/submission/5133709_ir_cow_y_cruncher___pi_2.5b_core_i9_13900k_53sec_156ms/

 

[Bokinator]

Any DDR5 8000 reviews? Curious how it does in gaming

 

[ir_cow]

Any DDR5 8000 reviews? Curious how it does in gaming

Waiting on MB and memory vendors. SOOON! Need to swap out for a RTX 4090 for the full halo experience

 

[xSneak]

Do you have any reviews of 64GB dual rank DDR5 Kits ? it's crazy seeing ddr4 at the top of the charts on some of these benchs. I think i'm just going to go dual rank for the extra memory for my zen4x3d build.
It is interesting to see these things can get to 59c at 1.40v with no fan on them being single rank sticks.

 

[ir_cow]

Do you have any reviews of 64GB dual rank DDR5 Kits ?

Neo Forza 64GB is being finished up now. Should be up sometime next week. Its already in the charts. 64GB is generally for content creators that need that much memory.

it's crazy seeing ddr4 at the top of the charts on some of these benchs.

Yeah its a mixed of games that depends more on latency than overall bandwidth. Nothing will top DDR4 anytime soon in that respects. Maybe if DDR5-8000? I can't seem to go below CAS 36.

I think i'm just going to go dual rank for the extra memory for my zen4x3d build.

If its like the Zen3 X3D, memory freq support will be lower.

It is interesting to see these things can get to 59c at 1.40v with no fan on them being single rank sticks.

Toasty for sure! Just for reference that is the SPD sensor and not the actually ICs. No easy way to thermally test those. Igor's lab did a article showing the IC being 10c higher. Hard to say if that is normal. I'm tempted to put a thermal couple on one and see for myself. Just not realistic to do for every review.

 

[Bokinator]

Yes I want to see what speed ddr5 needs to be, to be completely faster than ddr4

 

[Garrus]

Yes I want to see what speed ddr5 needs to be, to be completely faster than ddr4

Yeah exactly, this stuff is silly for gaming. Doesn't even routinely beat the best DDR4 stuff, and the DDR4 stuff is a lot cheaper. DDR5 is a bit of a scam so far.

 

[Dristun]

Yes I want to see what speed ddr5 needs to be, to be completely faster than ddr4

If they can get to 7600 at the timings this kit has, it should be, in theory at least

 

[fevgatos]

If they can get to 7600 at the timings this kit has, it should be, in theory at least

Im running 7600c34

 

[Outback Bronze]

Gday @ir_cow
I'm starting to look into some Hynix A-die but is there really any need compared to M-die? Basically, is A-die really worth the extra atm?
Take my 13900K for example. What would the max OC for either Die's be (assuming all IMC's are the same) with their respectable timings.
Thought I'd ask the question here since you have first hand experience.
Thanks in advance.

 

[fevgatos]

Gday @ir_cow
I'm starting to look into some Hynix A-die but is there really any need compared to M-die? Basically, is A-die really worth the extra atm?
Take my 13900K for example. What would the max OC for either Die's be (assuming all IMC's are the same) with their respectable timings.
Thought I'd ask the question here since you have first hand experience.
Thanks in advance.

You need to hit around 600 mhz higher clocks with adie to hit mdie performance. What motherboard do you have?

 

[Outback Bronze]

What motherboard do you have?

Hey buddy,
Z790 Hero atm and looking to get the Apex for a bit of fun hence the A-die vs M-die question.

 

[fevgatos]

Hey buddy,
Z790 Hero atm and looking to get the Apex for a bit of fun hence the A-die vs M-die question.

If you go for the z790 apex, definitely go with adie. You'll be able to hit 8k+

 

[Outback Bronze]

If you go for the z790 apex, definitely go with adie. You'll be able to hit 8k+

IMC no issues?

Z790 Hero possible or no chance?

 

[fevgatos]

IMC no issues?

Z790 Hero possible or no chance?

Seeing how my 12900k managed to max out my unify x at 7600 mhz i dont think imc will be an issue. 2 dimmers are better than 4 dimmers for sure, so for the hero a more safer bet would be around 7400 to 7800.

 

[codex5600x]

I see the g skill ddr5 memory have the highest TRAS of all dd5 .
I understand the TRAS haven't influenced of performance but have influenced of stability.
Good review ,but if we want to have good improvements in performance we need 7000mhz + ddr5, otherwise ddr5 6000MHz is the best

 

[ir_cow]

Gday @ir_cow
I'm starting to look into some Hynix A-die but is there really any need compared to M-die? Basically, is A-die really worth the extra atm?
Take my 13900K for example. What would the max OC for either Die's be (assuming all IMC's are the same) with their respectable timings.
Thought I'd ask the question here since you have first hand experience.
Thanks in advance.

Big question. There is always exceptions mind you because brute force OC with extra extra voltage. Below is just my observation and experience. It is not THE LAW.

M-Die will be max 7000 unless your willing to pump in 1.6v
A-Die I've seen validated up to 8600 with 1.45v. It goes to 9000 and above for those WRs. No idea about the voltage used.

M-Die will have lower timings compared to A-Die at the same freq. For example 6000, M-die could be CL26-34-34-X . A- 30-40-40-X

For 13th Gen.
4-Slot Z690 - 6800-7200 is the max
4-Slot Z790 - 7600-8000 is the max

2-Slot Z690
MSI Z690 Unfiy-X - No idea
ASUS Z690 Apex - 7000~ says the forums
Evga Z690 Dark - 8600~ (seen multiple validations from others)
GB Z690 Tachyon - 8000~ This is what I have. 8200 is iffy, but boots
ASRock Z690 AQUA OC - I can't get past 7000 on mine, but a number have done 8000 of the XOC forums

2-Slot Z790 (Waiting on these MBs to personally test)
ASUS Z790 Apex - Seen 9000 validated - Not idea for normals.
Evga Z790 Dark - No idea assume the same
GB Z790 Tachyon - 10000 is the WR, but 8600-9000 is more likely for us normals.

 

[fevgatos]

-Slot Z690
MSI Z690 Unfiy-X - No idea

Mine is doing 7600 but ive heard some people have trouble above 7200.

 

[Bokinator]

Okay to run the max speed on the board? I'm thinking 8000 on a GB Z790 Master, as a daily driver

 

[ir_cow]

Okay to run the max speed on the board? I'm thinking 8000 on a GB Z790 Master, as a daily driver

Full transparency here. GB sent me the Z790 Master + Binned CPU and 8000 Kit. It had issues passing y-cruncher and 100% uptime. Good for 2-3 days and than it just refused to boot above 7800 the next day. After talking to the engineer and troubleshooting for 2 weeks, it was all sent back right before CES. I don't recommend any 4-slot MB for 8000. On the upside it actually posts 8K where the MSI Z790 Ace cannot

EVGA Z690 Dark is $540 right now. Go buy that.

 

[Bokinator]

Ok looks like 8000 is not happening for me then. Good to know. Was it the teamgroup ram?

 

[ir_cow]

Ok looks like 8000 is not happening for me then. Good to know. Was it the teamgroup ram?

Since I cannot confirm it was the MB, CPU or Ram, I rather not say.

 

[swirl09]

it's crazy seeing ddr4 at the top of the charts on some of these benchs.

I put together my current build at alder launch, it was the only part I wasnt sure what to do - DDR4 or 5. The benches out all seemed to pit the highest "available" DDR5 against very modest DDR4. But even with skewed results, there were only a few titles that seemed to enjoy DDR5. So I figured decent DDR4 would still be fine for a while.

Keep in mind, the 6000C36 kits were the top, only on preorder, and a grand!! Admittedly that might have been a placeholder price, because when I checked a month or so later they were €600. They are well under half price now of course, and speeds have moved on. Does seem like you need about 8000 with decent timings before moving to DDR5 becomes an easier choice.