GA106 & GA104 RTX 3060 ROP count

[T4C Fantasy]

there seems to be some confusion as to how many rops the GA104 edition of RTX 3060 has, the rumor is 64 for GA104, 48 for normal edition, there is good reason to believe the ROP difference due to how ROPs are disabled, now that it's not tied to mem bus.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Specs

NVIDIA GA106, 1777 MHz, 3584 Cores, 112 TMUs, 48 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 1875 MHz, 192 bit

www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB GA104 Specs

NVIDIA GA104, 1777 MHz, 3584 Cores, 112 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 1875 MHz, 192 bit

www.techpowerup.com

if anyone has a GA104 3060 please run some tests to check whether or not it has 48 or 64 based on pixel rate benchmarks

 

[mcconkeymike]

I've got an EVGA RTX 3060 XC with the GA104 and 64 ROPS. I honestly don't know enough about the specs to know what it will do for me, but I'm glad that I have the higher spec'd version.

 

[wolf]

Does the GA104 version perform any differently? I'd have to assume despite having more ROP's it would be tuned to deliver the same performance

 

[mcconkeymike]

I really don't know how differently it performs. I went from a Founders GTX 1070 to this RTX 3060, so I can feel the upgrade, but don't know if it is different from any other 3060.

 

[mine25]

Mine is an INNO3D Twin X2 OC with GA104 and 64 ROPs. Was not aware of different specs between hardware versions.

 

[Clockmaster77]

there seems to be some confusion as to how many rops the GA104 edition of RTX 3060 has, the rumor is 64 for GA104, 48 for normal edition, there is good reason to believe the ROP difference due to how ROPs are disabled, now that it's not tied to mem bus.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Specs

NVIDIA GA106, 1777 MHz, 3584 Cores, 112 TMUs, 48 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 1875 MHz, 192 bit

www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB GA104 Specs

NVIDIA GA104, 1777 MHz, 3584 Cores, 112 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 1875 MHz, 192 bit

www.techpowerup.com

if anyone has a GA104 3060 please run some tests to check whether or not it has 48 or 64 based on pixel rate benchmarks

I have a Zotac Zotac RTX 3060 Twin Edge OC and I can confirm it has 64 ROPs. Not only the info is displayed in GPUz, but also clearly in HWinfo, which confirms also it has 112 TMUs, 112 Tensor Cores and 28 RT Cores (these last 3 are the same for GA106). In fact, I have better performance respect the GA106 benchmarks. For example the popular Blender 3.4 test scene "Car Demo" in this youtube video by Blendify :

, with 3060 standard and GPU OptiX only (see minute 4:28) renders the scene in 17.43 seconds (the CPU doesn't matter since at minute 4:28 he's using GPU), while on my pc the same scene with GA104 RTX3060 12Gb renders in 14.33 seconds. Since I bought the board for Blender content creation, I am pretty happy about this result, especially because, more or less, the two variants have similar prices (high, sadly).

 

[frischky]

I stumbled into an open box Gigabyte 3060 Gaming OC 12GB with the GA104 chip. I ran it head to head with a GA106 Vision, which should be more or less the same performance (if both were GA106's). I can validate Clockmaster 77's findings. Even on my ancient i7-3770k I was shaving a second off of the BMW Blender GPU benchmark... 14.3s for the GA 104, 15.3 for the GA106.

Overall I found with the GA104 variant, I am able to run faster and/or cooler than the GA106... plus the GA104 seems to be more tolerant to undervolting while maintaining a boost. In Superposition I find that I can get a 5% increase in score on the same undervolt and RAM speed on the GA104 over the GA106, not sure if it's the extra ROPs or what.

 

[jaszy]

Does the GA104 version perform any differently? I'd have to assume despite having more ROP's it would be tuned to deliver the same performance

I don't think so, though productivity apps might end up faster in some areas. Games? I doubt it.

I also heard GA104 with 3060 spec performs cooler as the die is bigger and less dense.

 

[frischky]

I don't think so, though productivity apps might end up faster in some areas. Games? I doubt it.

I also heard GA104 with 3060 spec performs cooler as the die is bigger and less dense.

I am not much into gaming, so I really can't say beyond what the benchmarks show. I would say I see average framerates on the GA104 to be 2-3 FPS higher, probably within a margin of error, although I haven't see the GA104 3060 underperform the GA106 3060. And definitely my temps are better, say 3c to 5c difference when running same settings between the two dies.... might be better in a modern well-ventilated case, I am still rocking the Define R4 with a couple Noctuas.

Here is some data points with my old i7-3770K:

Undervolt @ 950, 1987 Mhz Clock, +800 Mhz RAM
Gigabyte Gaming 3060 12GB GA104, Superposition=5586
Gigabyte Vision 3060 OC 12GB GA106, Superposition=5252
Asus TUF 3060 OC 12GB GA106, Superposition=5169

 

[Clockmaster77]

I can confirm for sure my rtx3060 ga104 runs cooler and quieter than my previous gtx1070, and the gtx1070 theoretically has a lesser tdp of 150W against rtx3060 ga104's 170W! Very very interesting! And please note this is not an unscientific supposition: my ZOTAC rtx3060 ga104 has an 8pin power input, not a 12pin one like the ga106 one, this should mean something at the technical level. I am wondering if the real tdp is lower, but this is only a mere supposition, probably it is just thermically more efficient due to the large, partially unused DIE size. But the mistery of the 8pin connector remains. Can you guys confirm if also Gigabyte rtx3060 ga104 has an 8pin connector?
As for the games, since their performance is also linked to processor power, the gap is minimal in the 95% of them, I have seen benchmarks where in some games ga104 perform a 3 to 5% better, but nothing more than that.

 

[jaszy]

I can confirm for sure my rtx3060 ga104 runs cooler and quieter than my previous gtx1070, and the gtx1070 theoretically has a lesser tdp of 150W against rtx3060 ga104's 170W! Very very interesting! And please note this is not an unscientific supposition: my ZOTAC rtx3060 ga104 has an 8pin power input, not a 12pin one like the ga106 one, this should mean something at the technical level. I am wondering if the real tdp is lower, but this is only a mere supposition, probably it is just thermically more efficient due to the large, partially unused DIE size. But the mistery of the 8pin connector remains. Can you guys confirm if also Gigabyte rtx3060 ga104 has an 8pin connector?
As for the games, since their performance is also linked to processor power, the gap is minimal in the 95% of them, I have seen benchmarks where in some games ga104 perform a 3 to 5% better, but nothing more than that.

theres no 12 pin GA106.. at least for geforce cards.

 

[frischky]

I can confirm for sure my rtx3060 ga104 runs cooler and quieter than my previous gtx1070, and the gtx1070 theoretically has a lesser tdp of 150W against rtx3060 ga104's 170W! Very very interesting! And please note this is not an unscientific supposition: my ZOTAC rtx3060 ga104 has an 8pin power input, not a 12pin one like the ga106 one, this should mean something at the technical level. I am wondering if the real tdp is lower, but this is only a mere supposition, probably it is just thermically more efficient due to the large, partially unused DIE size. But the mistery of the 8pin connector remains. Can you guys confirm if also Gigabyte rtx3060 ga104 has an 8pin connector?
As for the games, since their performance is also linked to processor power, the gap is minimal in the 95% of them, I have seen benchmarks where in some games ga104 perform a 3 to 5% better, but nothing more than that.

All three 3060's (12GB) in my possession (2 Gigabytes and one Asus) at the moment are all 8 pin, GA104 or GA106 doesn't matter.

 

[Clockmaster77]

look ath there:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Specs | TechPowerUp GPU Database

This is the NVIDIA reference board...
There should have been some changes in the mid course by various assemblers... I do not think this is an error because there is a photo of the 12 pin power connector.

Anyway, better the 8pin connector, it means our boards absorbs less power I think... Maybe an expert can tell if it is true from an electric point of view...

 

[frischky]

The board partners probably realized that 12 pin was not needed. Saving 20 cents a board across the 100's of thousands of 3060s made, adds up to a lot.

 

[jaszy]

look ath there:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Specs | TechPowerUp GPU Database

This is the NVIDIA reference board...
There should have been some changes in the mid course by various assemblers... I do not think this is an error because there is a photo of the 12 pin power connector.

Anyway, better the 8pin connector, it means our boards absorbs less power I think... Maybe an expert can tell if it is true from an electric point of view...

Theres no reference 3060. It's a placeholder image set by TPU.

It doesn't exist on a consumer level.

8 pin connector can draw 150w max in addition to 75w from board.