the gpu in a p4 is about "actually quite a bit less powerful" than a mobile 7970 (alot less powerful than a full on 7970) you can easily do better in terms of gpu. "the p4 is the gpu to beat as its the stronger" an fx 6300 would beat a 8 core jaguar apu even if games were optimized for multi threaded. the individual cores are better than the mobile jaguar cores and also run a lot faster. saying the jaguar is better than a quad core dedicated cpu is a bit like saying a pentium D@1.5ghz is better than a I5 running on a single core@3ghz. even if games can utilize all core 100% the i5 would still be better.. ( i could make a build around the above points, but honestly could not be bothered to put that much work in to finding the parts lol so i settled on the fx 4300 with the full fledged 7970 which is more powerful than any console. and i decided to throw in a blueray because consoles have them.. ) although i must admit making a MUCH better pc is prety damed difficult. but making a better pc is possible. and its missing the bigger point of you can spend the £100-£200 extra on your pc build, and you made that money back after buying 5-10 games. "the difference saved" and that saving only ever goes up the more games you buy. @kursha its all good lol.