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Gamesense MVP Wired Gaming Mouse

pzogel

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Inspired by Microsoft's still popular Wheel Mouse Optical (WMO), the Gamesense MVP Wired does without any holes, yet only weighs 65 g. PixArt's PMW3389 sensor, pure PTFE feet, and a paracord-like, flexible cable complete the package.

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You had me at WMO.
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Also, once again, my shitty low-quality Razer garbage is suffering from squeaks despite being under 6 months old. I am so done with Razer for anything.
 
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Buy a mouse without the Kailh 8.0 and with good specs / respectable software. The Pwnage Ultra Custom Wireless is good. :)

This thing is overpriced, you can have this kind of mouse for much less. The only reason one is overpaying is having wireless. Otherwise you can grab an AJ390 or similar and ride that to moon for a whooping 20 bucks. Gamesense was meant to be a cheap brand and they're trying to compete with higher level stuff at that price. Not a buy.
 
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Buy a mouse without the Kailh 8.0 and with good specs / respectable software. The Pwnage Ultra Custom Wireless is good. :)

This thing is overpriced, you can have this kind of mouse for much less. The only reason one is overpaying is having wireless. Otherwise you can grab an AJ390 or similar and ride that to moon for a whooping 20 bucks. Gamesense was meant to be a cheap brand and they're trying to compete with higher level stuff at that price. Not a buy.
Wireless and full of holes?
That's not the target audience for this mouse is aimed at, and not a mouse I'd personally touch with a ten-foot pole.
If you're going to criticise this MVP mouse, at least suggest a superior/comparable WMO-shaped, corded, lightweight mouse that isn't full of holes...
 
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It isn't but this mouse is still badly priced for its specs. It shouldn't cost more than 30-40 bucks *tops*. It looks like a basic Zowie, nothing else.
 
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It isn't but this mouse is still badly priced for its specs. It shouldn't cost more than 30-40 bucks *tops*. It looks like a basic Zowie, nothing else.
I don't understand why you think that. The Pwnage Ultra Custom Symm Mouse (solid) with PTFE feet costs $63, not "30-40 bucks "tops". That's the closest comparable mouse to this.

And a basic Zowie is $70, whether you want the S1, ZA11, or FK1.
 
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All garbage mice, Zowie 3200 DPI lock lol. I'll leave you to it.
 
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You're making no sense:

First you say this Gamesense MVP wired gaming mouse is garbage because it's overpriced and then suggest a completely unrelated mouse that's skeletal, wireless, and more expensive. The AJ390 isn't $20 either, and that's skeletal too. Not skeletal is the USP of this Gamesense MVP. Do you not understand how difficult it is to make a 65g mouse with a completely sealed shell?

I call you out on the Pwnage, AJ390 and and you say it's a 30-40 bucks like a basic Zowie, except that's nonsense because Zowies are all $70 MSRP.
...and now, having suggested Zowie, you're criticising your own suggestion for having only 3200dpi?

Are you having a stroke? This isn't difficult.
Either suggest a sub-$60 WMO-shaped mouse that's wired, non-skeletal, and under 70g or explain what the hell you mean suggesting all these unrelated mice that in no way compete with this Gamesense MVP.
 
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You're making no sense:

First you say this Gamesense MVP wired gaming mouse is garbage because it's overpriced and then suggest a completely unrelated mouse that's skeletal, wireless, and more expensive. The AJ390 isn't $20 either, and that's skeletal too. Not skeletal is the USP of this Gamesense MVP. Do you not understand how difficult it is to make a 65g mouse with a completely sealed shell?

I call you out on the Pwnage, AJ390 and and you say it's a 30-40 bucks like a basic Zowie, except that's nonsense because Zowies are all $70 MSRP.
...and now, having suggested Zowie, you're criticising your own suggestion for having only 3200dpi?

Are you having a stroke? This isn't difficult.
Either suggest a sub-$60 WMO-shaped mouse that's wired, non-skeletal, and under 70g or explain what the hell you mean suggesting all these unrelated mice that in no way compete with this Gamesense MVP.

The AJ390 costs a whooping price of a can of bottled water when bought from a wholesale China supplier. I'm not going to argue more since you definitely lack the knowledge in this department, and will again leave you to the shitty Zowie mice that had to make me increase sensitivity using regedit, which partly broke stuff. Now why on earth would you lock a 16k capable sensor to 3200 is beyond me.
 
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Let me simplify the 9 posts in this thread so far with very basic substitutions, for clarity:
  1. Pzogel: "Review of $60 circle"
  2. Me: "I like the $60 circle
  3. You: "$60 is too much. Buy a $70 triangle, otherwise buy a $20 square"
  4. Me: "Triangle? This thread is about circles; Suggest a cheaper circle if $60 is too much"
  5. You: "Circles should cost $30-40, like a hexagon does"
  6. Me: "But the triangle and hexagon cost more than the circle, and the square isn't $20 either"
  7. You: "All hexagons are shit"
  8. Me: "I am confused by your responses, they don't follow any reasoning or logic
  9. You: "The $20 square that's actually MSRP $49 is only $4 in China, keep your shitty hexagon"
This is kind of how reasoning with toddlers usually pans out. Each response is unrelated to the previous point, no questions are answered, and new nonsense is added to get further away from the initial question each time.
 
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Let me simplify the 9 posts in this thread so far with very basic substitutions, for clarity:
  1. Pzogel: "Review of $60 circle"
  2. Me: "I like the $60 circle
  3. You: "$60 is too much. Buy a $70 triangle, otherwise buy a $20 square"
  4. Me: "Triangle? This thread is about circles. circle"
  5. You: "Circles should cost $30-40, like a hexagon does"
  6. Me: "But the triangle and hexagon you've suggested cost more than this $60 circle"
  7. You: "All hexagons are shit"
  8. Me: "I am confused by your responses, they don't follow any reasoning or logic
  9. You: "The $20 square is $4 in China, keep your shitty hexagon"
This is kind of how reasoning with toddlers usually pans out. Each response is unrelated to the previous point, no questions are answered, and new nonsense is added to get further away from the initial question each time.

Because you fail to understand that you can't have the wireless mouse for cheaper typically with respectable specs, wired is VERY easily found and there are a lot of cheaper alternatives that will crap all over this piece of glorified Gamesense crap. Like the Projects S001 I snagged for 20 bucks.
 
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what the actual f*ck man? Are you high on narcotics or something?

You brought up the wireless mouse in this wired mouse review. I've never even mentioned it once. You're just going off on that random tangent in your own crazed imagination.

You also brought up the Zowie, which you think is shit. Again, that's irrelevant, but it's your Zowie suggest, and again, I never mention the Zowie, other than to tell you that your "$30-40 Zowie" has an MSRP of $70, which is more expensive than this reviewed mouse, which you're complaining is too expensive!

All of your suggestions are complete ass, and here's why, listed in the insane order you mentioned them.
  1. Pwnage UCW - Wireless, Skeletal, MSRP $70
  2. AJ390 - Skeletal, MSRP $44, shipping from China is $10 for 2-3 weeks, or $40 for 5-10 days.
  3. "Basic Zowie" - MSRP $70. How is that cheaper than MSRP $60?
  4. Projects Gaming S001 - Skeletal, MSRP $50
How can I ELI5 for you?
  • Wireless mice are not a valid suggestion.
  • >$60 MSRP is not a valid suggestion (this is your original complaint)
  • Skeletal mice are not a valid suggestion
Valid alternatives to this mouse must be wired, non-skeletal, WMO-shaped, lightweight, and have good quality switches even on the side buttons and wheel. If it doesn't meet those criteria, it's not a competitor to the Gamesense MVP. @pzogel actually suggests four in his conclusion, but I guess you didn't read that because you were too busy hallucinating about wireless skeletal mice that are nothing like the review mouse at all.
 
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Insulting I see, ah the ignorance of a fool who doesn't know any better. Both the aforementioned mice cost 20 bucks for many months if not couple years on Amazon. I don't know where you're pulling those numbers from, but you can still have the AJAZZ for that kind of price, even in third world countries that shoot the price.

This should be compared with Zowie grade garbage, and you can often times find Zowie mice on cheaps` stack down PC stores. They lost company workers for a reason.

My suggestions are not complete ass, you're just unable to understand that this kind of basic 3389 Kaith 4.0 mice is made for 6 bucks - only to be sold for 60 bucks. You can buy a Pwnage SYMM copy that can be used BOTH WIRED AND WIRELESS, you can close the shell to make it non-perforated, and it's a superior mouse for the cash. Your argument to having wires is lame as most mice come with just as lame paracord cables for looks, that are prone to dust, etc. All this stuff is still available for good price if you know where to look at. Now please stop wasting people's time and go do your research.
 
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All mice cost less to make than they are sold for. That's how companies make profit, and a company that doesn't make profit cannot make mice, or put R&D effort into newer models.

So, I'm comparing MSRPs to MSRPs, the only apples-to-apples way. Even the AJAZZ has an official manufacturer, website, and $44 MSRP listed.

I bought a Razer Viper for £14 instead of the MSRP of £80; That doesn't make it a £14 mouse.

You can buy a Pwnage SYMM copy that can be used BOTH WIRED AND WIRELESS, you can close the shell to make it non-perforated, and it's a superior mouse for the cash.
I wrote that in post #6 but it's $63, which is not cheaper than the $60 review mouse you say is "too expensive"
Your argument, as most of what you have said in this thread, is null and void.
 
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