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Hey guys, just wanted to bring your attention to this article I found at AnandTech:

Some Quick Gaming Numbers at 4K, Max Settings





Games like Metro 2033 and Sleeping Dogs need as many as 4 Titans (yes you read that right) just to get close to 60FPS! :ohwell: Only at such high resolutions can 4 Titans begin to stretch their legs :p

Asus just started taking preorders for their 31" 4K monitor at $3, 800, so adding up $4,000 in video cards and whatever the rest of your setup will cost you will push the price of a 4K ready rig well over $10,000 :(

It seems like gaming at this resolution will remain a pipe dream for at least a couple more years, what do you guys think?
 
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OC'd IVB-E (assuming it will bring as much improvement as we all hope for) seems like a must for 4k gaming. Something needs to keep 4 Titans busy, and that ain't quite a walk in the park.

One thing that such large resolutions (and thus small dot pitch) may allow for is more relaxed AA + AF settings, somewhat reducing GPU and VRAM strain.
 
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OC'd IVB-E (assuming it will bring as much improvement as we all hope for) seems like a must for 4k gaming. Something needs to keep 4 Titans busy, and that ain't quite a walk in the park.

One thing that such large resolutions (and thus small dot pitch) may allow for is more relaxed AA + AF settings, somewhat reducing GPU and VRAM strain.
Yea, I barely even use AA at 1920x1080. @4k I can't see anyone using it..
I'm not even considering a 4k build until they come into a reasonable price range.
I'll wait, just like I waited for SSD's..
 
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Yea, I barely even use AA at 1920x1080. @4k I can't see anyone using it.n.
I'm not even considering a 4k build until they come into a reasonable price range.
I'll wait, just like I waited for SSD's..
Yes I couldn't agree more with you on waiting for this tech, the price of admission is too high, maybe around 2015 it'll become more affordable.

As for not using FSAA, you'll want to use it if you want the absolute best image quality, you can still see aliasing on objects like ladders, cables, fences, character's hair and such, even at high resolution.

Take the Witcher 2 for example, Ubersampling always gives you a better result than using high resolutions like 5760x1080, even if it's on a bigger area you can tell the difference when using what basically is antialiasing taking to the extreme.
 

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Yes I couldn't agree more with you on waiting for this tech, the price of admission is too high, maybe around 2015 it'll become more affordable.
I've been saying that about 2560 x 1440 for years, and it's only in recent months some monitors have dipped to €400ish. :(
 
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You probably don't need much if any form of AA at 4k resolution, but then again some say you will still see some aliasing somewhere.

This is like a cat and mouse game if you think about it.
 
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I've been saying that about 2560 x 1440 for years, and it's only in recent months some monitors have dipped to €400ish. :(
I know huh?

Monitor manufacturers have been forcing 1080p surplus panels down our throats for years now, I just hope with all the "retina display" products available now LCD panel manufacturers finally give us a break, I mean, even my cell phone packs a 1080p screen in just 5" of screen real estate for God's sake :(
 
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I really don't see the appeal of that high of a resolution. If I watch a 1080p movie on this 23'' 1080p monitor the quality is exceptional and you'd be hard pressed to find a flaw in the picture.

Bumping the screen to 31'' isn't nearly big enough to need that many pixels. I'd keep 4k on the 60'' tvs.
 

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Being an early adopter of monitor/TV technologies is never the way to go. It ends up costing more and after a few months you have an obsolete product.
 
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Interesting how 1xHD7950 keeps up with 2xGTX680s. Is this correct??

Nice 4k benchmarks btw. Ty.
 
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Interesting how 1xHD7950 keeps up with 2xGTX680s. Is this correct??

Nice 4k benchmarks btw. Ty.
I know, amazing isn't it?

Surprising how 1GB more VRAM can push that little card over a 690 at such high resolutions ;)
 

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I really don't see the appeal of that high of a resolution. If I watch a 1080p movie on this 23'' 1080p monitor the quality is exceptional and you'd be hard pressed to find a flaw in the picture.

Bumping the screen to 31'' isn't nearly big enough to need that many pixels. I'd keep 4k on the 60'' tvs.
Scaling and scaling. Look at the iPad for instance. 2048x1536 on ten inches, and it's bloody gorgeous. No you do not use a desktop monitor the same way as a tablet (obviously), but still. A higher pixel density is never wrong. It remains to be seen how Windows will scale in the future (because that is the elephant in the room).
 
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I know, amazing isn't it?

Surprising how 1GB more VRAM can push that little card over a 690 at such high resolutions ;)
don't forget the bus width differences too. At 4k, 256bit is likely part of the bottleneck too. I mean it is already at 57xx x 1080/1200 so it certainly should still be at 4k considering it has almost a third more pixels.

Scaling could also be a part of that as well.
 
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I am quite happy gaming at 1920 x 1080p thank you. :D Maybe in the future when the cost is cheaper higher res displays will be popular.
 
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I've been saying that about 2560 x 1440 for years, and it's only in recent months some monitors have dipped to €400ish. :(
Unless you bought a catleap. I did and am still smiling $320AUD delivered.
 
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Being an early adopter of monitor/TV technologies is never the way to go. It ends up costing more and after a few months you have an obsolete product.
+1

only 10k?! no way
in order to see icons on desktop you will need to buy telescope as well.
 

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Unless you bought a catleap. I did and am still smiling $320AUD delivered.
Unless it would have been DOA, defective or something happens within the warranty. More expensive things I generally try to buy from within the country, and especially monitors.
 

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Interesting how 1xHD7950 keeps up with 2xGTX680s. Is this correct??

Nice 4k benchmarks btw. Ty.
I'm more impressed by three being able to throw a stick in with the titans. Price/performance at that resolution seems pretty obvious.
 

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4k is overrated, pixel density is all that matters, and nothing beats the pixel density of 27" paired with 2560 x 1440. even a 37" 4k is going to have worse pixel density. not to mention u cant sit at computer desk at that size.
 

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4k is overrated, pixel density is all that matters, and nothing beats the pixel density of 27" paired with 2560 x 1440. even a 37" 4k is going to have worse pixel density. not to mention u cant sit at computer desk at that size.
How about 4k on 27" then?
 

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Bloody hell, those benchmarks are brutal.

I reckon my GTX 590 would get 10-15fps and perhaps likely a lot lower, as the effective frame buffer is now "only" 1.5GB.
 
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I'm more impressed by three being able to throw a stick in with the titans. Price/performance at that resolution seems pretty obvious.
See this taken from the article.

Three 7950s performed at 40 FPS, though there was plenty of microstutter visible during the run
FPS charts don't tell the whole story ;)
 
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Look at how 3 HD7950's go :toast: and that for less than the price of a single titan. Hopefully the microstutter issue will be fixed on AMD's next driver update aka "prototype driver".
 
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Bloody hell, those benchmarks are brutal.

I reckon my GTX 590 would get 10-15fps and perhaps likely a lot lower, as the effective frame buffer is now "only" 1.5GB.
Well by the time the price on 4k monitor comes down, cards in that generation will be in the dumpster anyways.
 
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See this taken from the article.



FPS charts don't tell the whole story ;)
What's impressive though, is seeing a single 7950 outperform a 680 and sometimes even a 690, I know those framerates are unplayable anyways, but seems like AMD made the right call when they went for more VRAM, once they fix the microstuttering issue, these boards will be an excellent choice for gaming at high resolutions in Xfire systems :)