Discussion in 'System Builder's Advice' started by Asus7950DCII, Jul 26, 2013.
Im lost. but from what i understand so far, i should go for a Z77 and a 3570(K MAYBE)
the dead platform things i dont understand
Dead Platform means Intel isn't making anymore CPU's for it. That's all that means.
If you can afford it, definently get the 3570k over the regular 3570. Even if you don't plan to OC now, two years from now you would have the ability to crank the 3570k up to around 4.5 ghz, meaning it will be fast enough for your uses of it for a longer period of time.
Sorry for this.
A dead platform is a socket such as 1155, 1150, which will recieve no more compatibility with future processors that are released. So if the 5xxx series from Intel comes out, it wont be on Z87, the same as the 4xxx isnt on Z77, its on a new socket, Z87.
A 3570K is a very nice CPU, by all standards.
oh.. who cares? the processors are Good enough as is
I think you gonna hate yourself for going with a 64GB SSD. I recommend you go with the HDD this time, save up some money, and buy a 128MB or bigger SDD a few months later (don't need to be super-expensive high end one, the difference between a reliable SSD (of any kind) and a HDD is simply night and day).
I missed this, but yeah, dont get a 60GB SSD, bad choice. Save and get 120GB. 60GB disappears fast.
I also agree about the 60gb SSD. My first SSD was 60 gb, I was very limited as to how many programs I could install on it because of it's small size.
Let's get some PSU information straight. In no way shape or form would one remotely NEED a 750W PSU for 2 660ti's overclocked to the max and a 3570k/3770k/4570k/4770k overclocked to 4.5GHz. As far as not running a PSU at 100% I agree, and a 650W PSU, as I mentioned before, it wouldnt be close either.
For reference, here is the efficiency rating on that XFX that was posted earlier: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story3&reid=184
As you can see the difference between test 3 and test 5 is 2%. You wont even notice that on your power bill. That said, you arent running it at test 5 levels in the first place (again see previous post on wattages for the card and CPU).
As far as Haswell having another CPU coming down the pike, tick-tock, tick-tock, and here is a link: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...p_for_2013_2014_Timeframe_Gets_Published.html
120GB SSD or bust.
EDIT: Here is a another quality 650W PSU... check out its efficiency differences between test 3/4/5: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story3&reid=332
I'll give you some advice, and I'm going to get raged at by every enthusiast elitist on here for it.
Dont listen to people trying to sell you their snake oil and wolf tickets about processors.
The biggest and best processor isnt going to give you any more performance in games over an average high end processor, except in BENCHMARKS WHICH ARENT GAMES. Most processors at the high end are within the same bracket of FPS, because most games except RTS games are GPU driven.
XFX PSU's are surprisingly solid performers, most people in my town get the XFX PSU's
The point isnt more FPS its about getting the best you can/want to afford and having at least a chance to 'drop in' an upgrade, regardless if the performance increases will be small.
I am more than sure the OP would be happy with IB as well and save some money. But come upgrade time, its scrap it all, versus at least there will be an option on Haswell is my thinking.
Snake oil... ROFLAMO.. seriously... you chavs are funneh!
Nobody here knocked on the quality...
I also see Z97 being released at the sametime. Hmm, new chipset for new CPU, just like Z77 and IvyBridge? Meaning to get all the performance gains from the refreshed Haswells, you'll need a new MB. So while socket 1150 may not be intirely dead, Z87 is.
Like I said, elitist rage.
Most people buy an entire PC, and then after a few years, scrap the MoBO and processor and buy new. I've never bought a socket board and then upgraded the CPU to something 1% better a year down the line. IVB will do for a few years to come, by then the OP will likely overhaul the MoBo, Processor, and maybe a bunch more stuff.
why not just the CPU and mother board? and Gpu if needed.
I wouldnt tell you what or when to upgrade, thats up to your personal standards as to when the system stops performing as well as you want it to
No rage here sir.. just informing the OP of all of his options so he can make the most informed decision for himself. I buy the best I can/want to afford.
So what would stop the OP from picking up a used 3770, K or not, a year from now as a upgrade?
And calling me a chav, etc etc I expected a little more maturity from someone as well informed as you sir.
Half an ounce of practical thinking?
P67->Z68... last I checked, SB/IB worked on both, right?
zxx will be s1150 and support both CPUs as well.
What is wrong with chav? Is that term derogetory? I though it akin to bloke...if it is, my apologies.. that was totally intended to be playful, like I thought bloke is...
From what? I am confused as I have posts coming in from all directions, LOL!
well maybe this can help you help me.
i will upgrade CPU and mother board and GPU when my pc get less the 50FPS at some good game
You upgrade your GPU in that case...
God knows how PC games will run in 3, 5 or 7 years time.
If i had to make a badly informed estimate, you might have to replace your CPU and MoBo in like 4-5 years, and GPU in 2-3
Sorry about the bad translation, most of the british people hate chavs Blokes are just "stand up guys", chavs are the scum of the british empire. Kinda like the gypsies that live in romania.
oh right. i dont see what the hell is the problem here lol what are you arguing about
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