- Mar 10, 2010
- 8,790 (2.15/day)
- Manchester uk
|System Name||RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II|
|Processor||Amd R7 3800X@4.350/525/ Intel 8750H|
|Motherboard||Crosshair hero7 @bios 2703/?|
|Cooling||360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu Monoblock Gpu full cover all EK|
|Memory||Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in two sticks./16Gb|
|Video Card(s)||Sapphire refference Rx vega 64 EK waterblocked/Rtx 2060|
|Storage||Silicon power qlc nvmex3 in raid 0/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd|
|Display(s)||Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync, LG 49" 4K 60hz ,Oculus|
|Case||Lianli p0-11 dynamic|
|Audio Device(s)||Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset|
|Power Supply||corsair 1200Hxi|
|Mouse||Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless|
|Keyboard||Roccat Aimo 120|
|Software||Win 10 Pro|
|Benchmark Scores||8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506|
While I agree with your summary of power budget limitations I don't agree with your conclusions, IF you can run those memory speeds and infinity fabric speeds(on Ryzen) it doesn't affect your core speed significantly.The title technically isn't...wrong, per se, but it's kinda obvious given how power limits work on any locked Intel chip or any PPT-limited AMD chip since 2019.
You can probably get the same result on Ryzen by artificially running 1066MHz Infinity Fabric @ 0.9V VSOC where you save like 10W on SVI2 SOC power draw compared to 1866MHz 1:1 IF @ 1.1V VSOC. Like, yeah, you get 10W more to invest into the cores (if not already current, temp or voltage limited) and will probably get slightly better boost performance out of strict CPU benchmarks, but people don't build new 11th gen computers to run CPU benchmarks 24/7 at stock settings and nothing else.
In return, running Gear 2 or low IF speed both get you doodoo performance in 99% of everything else outside of CPU benchmarks, so is it really "performance loss"? It's not even a revelation that's useful to overclockers because 1) 11400F isn't winning any races regardless of what you do 2) power limit is not an issue on anything that isn't locked 3) power limit isn't even an issue on the 11400F as long as you remove them.
So basically, "Gear 1 can lead to performance loss" is about the same as saying "1900MHz+ IF can lead to performance loss". Both technically true to some extent, and both misleading and benefiting precisely nobody.
I can't comment on Intel's thing I couldn't know having not dabbled or read enough yet but doesn't seem like too much of a drama and to me could be more nuanced, what if you have 3200/3600 memory, IE lower speeds than 4000/ , perhaps there's a gain to be had with less core performance loss, I dunno.
After all most go for the sweet spot memory frequency not the ceiling.