Gearing up for the HWC Battle !!!

imperialreign · Dec 24, 2009

Hmmm . . . I haven't been active in ages . . .

Has a lot to do with the fact that I have people living here who are absolutely set on turning off my rig when I'm not around - which is BS. Big reason why I finally gave up, as it was taking so long to complete WU . . .

Anyhow, I'll see if I can't fire these cores back up. I'm debating on how I'd want to run - either splitting between my CPU and two GPU cores, or if I'd want to allocate everything to my 4 GPUs . . .

chriskwarren · Dec 24, 2009

BUCK NASTY said:
Uh oh. Insulting other members can earn you an infraction I may end up fighting this HWC battle on several fronts.

Serious note: Chris, do you have guys running i7 860's @ HWC and if so, is the dual channel memory bandwidth limiting PPD?

I am not aware of anyone yet. The bigadvs like at least 4.6 gb of ram, and most LGA 1156 systems have 4gb, so I would say if they are, ram amounts are more limiting than bandwidth.

I was getting ~8500PPd on my 3.4GHZ 920, (~1200MHZ bus) and that jumped to ~9300PPD when I went to 3.6GHZ (~1400MHZ bus). I doubt that the total PPD was due to a clock increase. I have read on the folding forums that bandwidth does help with the bigadvs though.

3.0Charlie also found that running the ramdisk option (on his 12GB system) really helped with frame times. So disk access time also makes a difference with these WUs.

dhoshaw · Dec 24, 2009

imperialreign said:
Hmmm . . . I haven't been active in ages . . .

Has a lot to do with the fact that I have people living here who are absolutely set on turning off my rig when I'm not around - which is BS. Big reason why I finally gave up, as it was taking so long to complete WU . . .

Anyhow, I'll see if I can't fire these cores back up. I'm debating on how I'd want to run - either splitting between my CPU and two GPU cores, or if I'd want to allocate everything to my 4 GPUs . . .

Go all in, we need the help!

bogmali · Dec 24, 2009

dhoshaw said:
Go all in, we need the help!

Nuff Said

Error 404 · Dec 24, 2009

imperialreign said:
Hmmm . . . I haven't been active in ages . . .

Has a lot to do with the fact that I have people living here who are absolutely set on turning off my rig when I'm not around - which is BS.

Disconnect the power and reset buttons from the motherboard

UPDATE: Something must be going on at HWC, they've dropped about 50k PPD below average! We've now got 2.6 weeks before they overtake us!

imperialreign · Dec 24, 2009

Well, I've fired some cores up. I'll need some experimenting to figure out what best suits my rig . . .

Back in the day, I ran one GPU client for each of my 3870s, and the last two CPU cores were busy with the SMP client.

Right now, though, I can't seem to get two GPU cores working between both 4870x2s. I've tried running them with crossfire disabled, even going so far as disabling low-level crossfire (which technically forces all 4 GPUs to themselves). I've tried with crossfire enabled . . . hot-swapping the monitor connection . . . nichevo. Can't get two GPU clients running.

So, I've got one GPU client currently working, which left a lot of CPU overhead. CPU is working two SMP clients - and current CPU workload is averaging 85% load.

There's two computers at work that are constantly on 24 hours a day - although they're rather low-end machines, I can probably get some single-core clients running on them, too.

dhoshaw · Dec 24, 2009

Welcome back.

Can't help with your gpu issues, I don't have any experience with folding on ATI cards. You should pop over to the assistance thread; someone should be able to help you there.

imperialreign · Dec 24, 2009

dhoshaw said:
Welcome back.

Can't help with your gpu issues, I don't have any experience with folding on ATI cards. You should pop over to the assistance thread; someone should be able to help you there.

I probably will at some point.

I've had quite a bit of experience with the older GPU clients (I used to help out with those issues occasionally here), but the clients have changed a bit since then. I used to run one for each card, since back in the day with my two X1950 PROs.

I've got a couple more ideas to try out - will probably throw out a question here, too. Also intend to scour the F@H boards for any info that might help out.

dhoshaw · Dec 24, 2009

I fold on a couple of 9800GX2's and I know how painful it can be to get them running correctly. I cringe everytime I even think about installing new drivers.

Good luck.

imperialreign · Dec 24, 2009

dhoshaw said:
I fold on a couple of 9800GX2's and I know how painful it can be to get them running correctly. I cringe everytime I even think about installing new drivers.

Good luck.

Yeah, my biggest gripe back in the day was when (after a driver update), to get two GPU clients working, both cards had to be "on" . . . this required getting the first client working, then connecting the monitor cable to the second card to turn it "on," then starting the second client and swapping the cable back to the primary adapter.

Before, you could just disable crossfire, force the GPU flag and let it go to work.

Error 404 · Dec 27, 2009

Bloody brilliant work guys, we've extended our lead on HWC to 2.3 months, and overtaking another team in the process!

imperialreign · Dec 27, 2009

Just a little update on my GPU situation . . . I couldn't for the life of me get both 4870x2s folding on seperate clients - either I was recieving machine ID errors (which were not abated by manually editing the .cfg), or errors stating no driver present.

It'd be nice if the GPU clients were the older console-only type, as they tended to be a lot more flexible than the SYS Tray clients.

Either way, though, I've found that enabling crossfire between the cards has seemed to help. The GPU client has gone from averaging 5min between steps, to about 2min between steps. Change has been noted over the course of quite a few WUs. So, if that's the best I can manage with one GPU client, I won't complain. It's now averaging 4 hours to complete one GPU WU, as compared to averaging 6+ hours before.

p_o_s_pc · Dec 27, 2009

they have the console-only clients available on the same page as the sys tray and there more productive

chriskwarren · Dec 28, 2009

Happy holidays TPU. Keep folding strong through the new year guys!

p_o_s_pc · Dec 28, 2009

chriskwarren said:
Happy holidays TPU. Keep folding strong through the new year guys!

thanks

Happy holidays to you too and everyone else

chriskwarren · Jan 3, 2010

BUCK NASTY said:
I agree Nasty. We have got to rallied the troops quick if we are to stave off this advance by HWC. I'm giving it all i got right now. We need some others to step up and throw a little more gas on the fire.

You need to get those i7 folks folding bigadvs. Folks who fold primarily on the GPU are getting hit bad with the 10101s. Folks folding on the CPU are not getting hit too hard.

Also helps that the winter months bring cold weather. We need folding, flannel, and fine ladies to stay warm...

[Ion] · Jan 3, 2010

I hate the 10101s

They make the 8800GT run even hotter (85-88c), and the PPD is terrible (4200, vs 5700 on 353s)
Ah, at least it is for science

chriskwarren · Jan 3, 2010

The PPD is no big deal, and they are supposedly more complex in nature so it does mean that they are able to do different kinds of science as our hardware gets more powerful.

The heat issue is another can of worms. If you are not careful you can damage stuff.

NastyHabits · Jan 3, 2010

Down to 6.4 days. Chriswarren has posted as much on HWC

At this rate, they'll pass sometime Monday afternoon.

chriskwarren · Jan 3, 2010

Thats why you guys will ramp it up!

BUCK NASTY · Jan 3, 2010

We will have to wait for Monday to see what response we can conjure up. Either way, it's all for science and has forced both our teams to "bring their best to the table". You guy's @ HWC are a class act and I could not think of a better team to pass us, if it does happen

. Keep the faith TPU!

chriskwarren · Jan 3, 2010

BUCK NASTY said:
We will have to wait for Monday to see what response we can conjure up. Either way, it's all for science and has forced both our teams to "bring their best to the table". You guy's @ HWC are a class act and I could not think of a better team to pass us, if it does happen. Keep the faith TPU!

Will surely be a back and forth battle for some time as I think our teams are pretty evenly matched for the most part. :toast:

BUCK NASTY · Jan 3, 2010

chriskwarren said:
Will surely be a back and forth battle for some time as I think our teams are pretty evenly matched for the most part.

I'm thinking back about 4 months when this all started. That had to be the toughest 3.6 million you guy's have ever had to pull off.

:toast:

chriskwarren · Jan 3, 2010

BUCK NASTY said:
I'm thinking back about 4 months when this all started. That had to be the toughest 3.6 million you guy's have ever had to pull off.

Indeed! Our team PPD really took off after this (that and the cold weather).

SoulTribunal · Jan 5, 2010

It has been one long fought and tough battle, and I highly doubt even if we pass you for a little bit that we will not have to worry or be lax. Both teams have pulled of some amazing things in these past 4 months for sure.

I applaude your team spirit and effort, and I am sure we will be in the top 25 for the world soon enough! Keep it up guys.

ST

P.S. - Rig #3 is comming soon.

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