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GeForce GTX 680 Up To 40% Faster Than Radeon HD 7970: NVIDIA

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Sorry, but what resolution was this at?
 
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Red vs Green : ) Starting to remind me of American politics's !
 
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#28
Looking forward to seeing some real benchs and not more marketing slides.

Tbh, that graph doesn't blow me away and this is what they want you to see ^^ taking out the 1 spikey 40% and u need to drop to half that gain before seeing anything over the bar, of which only 2 other titles make it. Most are in or around the 10% mark, which is fine by me if true! Problem is, these are titles and settings they picked and if other info is to be believed, this card was originally meant for the mainstream-performance segment. *IF* that's true, it means they bumped this up beyond its original intended spec which we will find out when full benches show this things temps/noise.

Time will tell. A confident 10% lead in most titles and decent temps/noise and I'll happily purchase one for next build. If its actually closer to AMD than they are letting on now, then some nice custom 7970s out there to pick from, slight price premium for similiar performance, and much cooler and quiet = easy choice.
 
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Relax

You're too focused on the Battlefield result. Take that away and up to 20% sounds more than doable. Remeber, this is nVIDIA we're talking about. And this isn't even using GK100 yet. Only thing left now are the reviews. I can't wait.
 

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#31
So 680 will be 10% faster than 7970 !!!! But all 7970 i know can be OCed so to gain at least this 10 % or more.
Will the 680 also have room to be COed that good ? It has only 2x6 pin power !!! :eek:
 
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#32
should do that imo!!
300% more shader than a gtx580 and 580 is 20%?? slower than the 7970
 
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What is up with TPU posting these news about fake slides as facts?
 
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#34
This should be taken with a grain of salt. Many sources have already confirmed both HD 7970 and the GTX 680 are practically identical in performance with each one taking the win in almost an equal matter.

Let's hope the NV is slightly faster to help drive prices down. :D
 
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#38
So in real world at best 20%. Still thats a NICE boost!
When the 7970 came out all I remember was a bunch of flaming trolls yelling about 20% performance gain.
 
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When the 7970 came out all I remember was a bunch of flaming trolls yelling about 20% performance gain.
20% over the 7970........:rolleyes: Calm it down.

If the 680 is 20% faster then the 7970 its what the 7970 should have been over the 6970.
 
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If that's the case(which seems like), i did that math. It's on average 13.8% faster than HD7970.

Lame, for an over-hyped product.
Without entering a discussion about the veracity of those results... you are surely aware that's practically the same average difference between HD7970 and GTX580 right? At least this time it's comparing 2 cards of the same generation and fab process...
 
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Yeah, the BF3 with 4xAA works out at 43% better which tallies perfectly with the graph. So, if we have proof the PCinlife table is fake, we know the Nvidia graph is fake.

Question is, are we sure the PCinlife table is fake?

There's a deal on the 7970 LCS at an online retailer (ends tomorrow) and i'm pissed that the deal will be gone by time Kepler is out. Then again, I probably should just jump because I'm liable to upgrade again when GK110 or HD8xxx pops up......
 
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deffinately had enough of gay slides that arnt absolute fact now< , these BS benches mean nowt compared to a decent review (wizzard, come on man sort it:)), and if it really performed as these say ,why no preview or review, surely that would halt a few 7950-70 sales, hype and BS thats what im saying, this cards going to have something to prove either way.
I do love that some NV fans have just ran off with the trophy already with no cards on shelves yet and NO actual genuine repeatable benches by Reputable unbiased folks.

STILL SEEIN NVIDIAS BD ERE<
 
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Without entering a discussion about the veracity of those results... you are surely aware that's practically the same average difference between HD7970 and GTX580 right? At least this time it's comparing 2 cards of the same generation and fab process...
Yes, i'm aware of it.
Which can be said about 6970 vs 580 - 5870 vs 480 - etc, etc, etc.

My point is everyone was talking about a 40% solid avg.(not "up to"), and that this card would be a game changer, it would be priced at $300 because it was originally a mid range part, etc, etc. At the end of the day, pure BS. And whats more i was beting on 15% avg. so.......meh

I'm still royaly screwed up for my upgrade......................maybe december i can find a 7870/nv equivalent at $200? don't think so...... :(
 
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Yes, i'm aware of it.
Which can be said about 6970 vs 580 - 5870 vs 480 - etc, etc, etc.

My point is everyone was talking about a 40% solid avg.(not "up to"), and that this card would be a game changer, it would be priced at $300 because it was originally a mid range part, etc, etc. At the end of the day, pure BS. And whats more i was beting on 15% avg. so.......meh

I'm still royaly screwed up for my upgrade......................maybe december i can find a 7870/nv equivalent at $200? don't think so...... :(
Meh, I don't see what's wrong with getting a 7950 regardless of how craptacular the 680 is.
You gotta pay to play. Save up more or buy used stuff.

I'm at 1200 core and still have room to go. Even at 490 bucks it's one the best purchases I've made in a while. I gave my unlocked 6950s to my sister. Oh...did you want those? :p
 
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Meh, I don't see what's wrong with getting a 7950 regardless of how craptacular the 680 is.
You gotta pay to play. Save up more or buy used stuff.

I'm at 1200 core and still have room to go. Even at 490 bucks it's one the best purchases I've made in a while. I gave my unlocked 6950s to my sister. Oh...did you want those? :p
You told me you were going to sell those to me!!, not cool bro......not cool.

On topic, i really thought nv would sell these at $400 atm...
 
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#46
You told me you were going to sell those to me!!, not cool bro......not cool.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

7870 xfire are going to be a helluva bargain. OCed I can see them putting down some big numbers and being an even greater value.
 
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$30 for CUDA and Physics. In Europe price should be $1000. We like expensive stuff. :laugh:
$30 is expensive for a gimmick and scam.
 
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My point is everyone was talking about a 40% solid avg.(not "up to"), and that this card would be a game changer, it would be priced at $300 because it was originally a mid range part, etc, etc. At the end of the day, pure BS. And whats more i was beting on 15% avg. so.......meh(
No one said 40% faster average. Unless I missed that, which I doubt.

EDIT: Kyle from HordOCP did say 45% faster, but I don't know if it meant "up to" or not. And he said it would launch no earlier than June afaik. He suggested a June-August timeframe afaik, so it may very well be GK100. Now it's probably gone.
 
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Going on all the rumours so far, here is my take and I'm an avid Columbo fan with some Quincy thrown in.

GK110 (call it Big GK) is still in production. It's an insanely powerful gpu but is a bit difficult to make precisely.
AMD release the 7970 and NV are genuinely surprised, expecting something more powerful.
NV realise they have a GK part (104) that was not destined to be directly competitive with HD7970 but now seems that with a little work, may well be (thus the delay).
Initial pricing was for GK104 at mainstream levels. On seeing it's competitiveness with HD7970, NV decide to either capitalise on HD7970's price point and/or the poorer than expected yield from TSMC forces their hand to up prices (as per wafer cost is higher).
This all leads to the release of GK104 (originally a GK660 labelled part) being upped to the top spot (GK680) to take the crown.

Big GK is still coming and will be a monster. But the recently resurrected rumour of a dual GK104 part makes Big GK (as initial rumours suggested) a Q1 2013 part (possibly the GK780).

Dual Tahiti (7990) will be brought in by AMD to counter either the GK680 part or the GK690 dual part.

That's my purely personal opinion but it's based on sound logic of all the rumours thus far. And like I said, I watch Columbo - logic and reason shall conquer.

Oh... one more thing.
 
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Going on all the rumours so far, here is my take and I'm an avid Columbo fan with some Quincy thrown in.

GK110 (call it Big GK) is still in production. It's an insanely powerful gpu but is a bit difficult to make precisely.
AMD release the 7970 and NV are genuinely surprised, expecting something more powerful.
NV realise they have a GK part (104) that was not destined to be directly competitive with HD7970 but now seems that with a little work, may well be (thus the delay).
Initial pricing was for GK104 at mainstream levels. On seeing it's competitiveness with HD7970, NV decide to either capitalise on HD7970's price point and/or the poorer than expected yield from TSMC forces their hand to up prices (as per wafer cost is higher).
This all leads to the release of GK104 (originally a GK660 labelled part) being upped to the top spot (GK680) to take the crown.

Big GK is still coming and will be a monster. But the recently resurrected rumour of a dual GK104 part makes Big GK (as initial rumours suggested) a Q1 2013 part (possibly the GK780).

Dual Tahiti (7990) will be brought in by AMD to counter either the GK680 part or the GK690 dual part.

That's my purely personal opinion but it's based on sound logic of all the rumours thus far. And like I said, I watch Columbo - logic and reason shall conquer.

Oh... one more thing.
Yeah that's what rumors suggest to me too, especially looking at them historically. For us the result is certainly unfortunate.