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GeForce GTX 780 Ti Pictured in the Flesh

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I think this thread has run its course. Let's wait until some hard evidence of its performance turns up. It won't be long now.
 
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#77
Conversely, the $550 290X offers 4% (quiet) / 11.1% (scream) more performance than the reference 780 for a 10% higher price and three fewer games ( or 16% higher price w/ 2 fewer games)...and that's assuming that you could find a 290X in stock.

Nice cherry picking. Even nicer incoherent rant.
Kirk Lazarus doesn't approve.
You should thanks to the competition amd have made. Without 290x your favourite card wouldn't get price cut and stay on 650$ price point.

What the different term between scream and boost v.2 is?
 
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#78
I looked at the source (translated; I can't read Chinese) and it seems like the card has a "quiet" and "uber" mode just like the R9 290X, but in the case of the 780Ti the "uber" only has a high temperature target and doesn't restrict power consumption like the R9 290X's "uber" mode does. It looks like this card was tested in "uber" mode for these results, which would explain the findings exactly and why it uses 75W more than the 290X. I would expect the "quiet" mode to stick to the 250W power target and probably only slightly edge out Titan.
 
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First, these leaks are very far from what a professional review means.
You don't believe leaks from Chiphell that makes nVidia look bad,eh?

Supposedly Nvidia gaming performance chart comparing 780Ti and 290X (Quiet) courtesy videocardz:

http://img.techpowerup.org/131103/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-780-Ti-gaming-performance.png
Now you quoting some rumour from vidz and stating it's was a "supposedly performance" ?

Yeah, fanaticism > logic :roll:
 
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I want a card that runs fast and (relatively) quiet like NVIDIA cards do at stock, with a decent driver control panel and more or less free of annoying driver bugs, especially with SLI. I'll bet the 780 Ti delivers on this in spades. Reviews will tell us for sure, so let's not argue about it. And I'll bet wizzy has already played with it and knows the answer. ;) Damn you NDA! :laugh:

Does it help if I tell you that in my opinion, all high end GPUs from either brand are stressed out enough as it is with all that heat meaning that I don't overclock them, even if the headroom is there? Therefore, getting more out of it than stock isn't something I look for in a graphics card.

EDIT: I really like the unique features that NVIDIA deliver with their graphics cards like 3D Vision, LightBoost and now G-Sync.
As long as it doesn't blow up my card, like those other drivers recently I'll be happy.
I tell you, my GTX 590 runs so damned hot, even in desktop mode that I'd appreciate any reduction in power. :D
It's odd how the WHQL driver has the same version number as the beta driver.

Also, it's not on the home page of the geforce.com website, but the article links do point to the WHQL driver being published just yesterday and searching for a driver returns the same result.

I wonder if nvidia have gotten a bit confused somewhere?

It's a good card in terms of framerate and features, but I really don't like that cooler.

It's noisy, hot and ugly - nothing to recommend it. nvidia normally make really quiet and efficient coolers, so I think they've let the side down today.

If I was in the market for this card, I'd go for a non-reference model with a custom cooler without thinking twice about it.

I do love a good rebrand!

/sarcasm
I'm glad I haven't gotten round to installing it yet. As I've got a GTX 590 which can be easily damaged through overstress, it might be extra prudent to leave it out.

In fact, I don't overclock any of my graphics cards to avoid potentially damaging them.

Both companies have their issues, and how is that hot noisy 790 treating you that can easily be damaged by drivers killing it?

Seriously though, the 290x was a cheaper answer to the Nvidia gouging for those who want to and like to mod their cards to get the most. I would still pay for a 290x so I could stick on my waterblock and remove the voltage limit to see what it was capable of. For much less than the green camp.
 

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Both companies have their issues, and how is that hot noisy 790 treating you that can easily be damaged by drivers killing it?

Seriously though, the 290x was a cheaper answer to the Nvidia gouging for those who want to and like to mod their cards to get the most. I would still pay for a 290x so I could stick on my waterblock and remove the voltage limit to see what it was capable of. For much less than the green camp.
Damn, I can't believe you spent all that time to dig out all my quotes! :laugh: Bottom line is that NVIDIA cards work pretty well regardless if the odd model is a bit noisy or a rebrand etc. It also proves I don't fanboy any particular brand as I do call them out when things should be improved.

Yeah sure, if you want to mod the 290x with a waterblock or something go right ahead, that's proper enthusiast territory. I'd be interested to see how it improves the framerate performance and noise. :) It'll be significant whatever the actual numbers are.
 
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Yeah sure, if you want to mod the 290x with a waterblock or something go right ahead, that's proper enthusiast territory. I'd be interested to see how it improves the framerate performance and noise. :) It'll be significant whatever the actual numbers are.
Well you can always mod your 780ti with water and over voltaged bios, so that is pretty much back to square one in terms of 780ti being faster vs a modded 290x.
 
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Not fair benchmarks amd R290x quiet mode lowers its core to 800mhz under full load to save power
More a sound level (fan RPM) dynamic...probably why it's called "Quiet Mode" rather than "Power Saving Mode". And this is representative of actual clocking:

Even if slower R290x is a steal at $550 cheers:laugh:
Yep, My sentiments were exactly the same. $485 for an overclocked GTX 780 with 3 AAA games added. Couldn't justify paying 20% more to get a few percentage points increase in framerate and a single game....that's if I could actually find a 290X in stock at MSRP.
 

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Hey TPU, when are you going to test a watercooled 290X? Just to see how fast it really is. And than compare it to 780ti (when it releases).
When someone sends us one, which has a closed loop water cooler (think Sapphire Atomic). We've never tested cards that are just PCB + FC blocks.
 
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Well you can always mod your 780ti with water and over voltaged bios, so that is pretty much back to square one in terms of 780ti being faster vs a modded 290x.
Not close. The 290 is pulling better numbers at 200Mhz less than the Titan and with no voltage limit it will perform much faster than a chip that is already at maximim, plus the piece of silicon Nvidia is selling costs more as its significantly larger. I am not saying it will be the fastest ever, but bang for the buck only Nvidia fanboys will be buying one.
 

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Not close. The 290 is pulling better numbers at 200Mhz less than the Titan and with no voltage limit it will perform much faster than a chip that is already at maximim, plus the piece of silicon Nvidia is selling costs more as its significantly larger. I am not saying it will be the fastest ever, but bang for the buck only Nvidia fanboys will be buying one.
Or for people that don't give a rats ass about bang for buck. Why do you think people bought Titans, or why I went from a 680 to a 780 right away.
 

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Well you can always mod your 780ti with water and over voltaged bios, so that is pretty much back to square one in terms of 780ti being faster vs a modded 290x.
Comparing them both on water would be interesting.
 
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More a sound level (fan RPM) dynamic...probably why it's called "Quiet Mode" rather than "Power Saving Mode". And this is representative of actual clocking:
http://img.techpowerup.org/131104/000powertune2.0.jpg

Yep, My sentiments were exactly the same. $485 for an overclocked GTX 780 with 3 AAA games added. Couldn't justify paying 20% more to get a few percentage points increase in framerate and a single game....that's if I could actually find a 290X in stock at MSRP.
well your article actually confirmed my claim. At quiet mode not only the fans spin slower, the clock rate is also reduced.
 
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#91
Not fair benchmarks amd R290x quiet mode lowers its core to 800mhz under full load to save power. Try finding benchmarks with R290x Ubermode and 780Ti stock, before you(NVidia fans) call amd cards shitty. Even if slower R290x is a steal at $550 cheers:laugh:
well your article actually confirmed my claim. At quiet mode not only the fans spin slower, the clock rate is also reduced.
Actually, W1zzard found that "Quiet" mode uses more power than "Uber" mode in his R9 290X testing, so the conclusion is exactly the opposite. Why this is I don't know.

 
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#92
Actually, W1zzard found that "Quiet" mode uses more power than "Uber" mode in his R9 290X testing, so the conclusion is exactly the opposite. Why this is I don't know.

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290X/images/power_average.gif
Just to be clear. It just tells us the average power draw in Crysis 2.

•Average: Crysis 2 at 1920x1080, Extreme profile, representing a typical gaming power draw. Average of all readings (12 per second) while the benchmark was rendering (no title/loading screen).
The charts be it real or fake aren't limited to just 1 game.
 
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#93
Whoa, the 7990x owns 4k. Not bad for 3 GB memory. I would of liked to of seen higher demanding games like bf4 or crisis. Btw the 780ti power consumption shows that it's mostly a hyper clocked titan. Little performance gain at the price of high power increase.