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we had a similar "wave" of " you visited a streaming website that includes illegal streams of copyright protected content, pay 2000€.
throw the letter away and that's it.
There was some of that going on in Sweden too, albeit not from the police, but from "law firms", turns out it was illegal.
 
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i thought thay have done away with the you need to activate 30 day thingy cos its been over 3 months since i installed without a key and nothings come up and i downloaded this copy straight from MS and everythings working "touch wood".

Interesting, does it show up that "Windows is activated" in the My PC properties?
 
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Interesting, does it show up that "Windows is activated
 

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There are numerous websites where relatively inexpensive license keys can be purchased for, for example, Microsoft Windows 10.
For a fraction of the suggested retail price, you can obtain a valid license. However, the source of the keys is often dubious or illegal.

According to sources, the German police will actively approach buyers of cheap license keys in hopes of accusing them of money laundering and copyright infringement.
Although the German authorities have not provided confirmation, several users have reportedly confirmed that they received similar subpoenas from the police after purchasing cheap Windows 10 product keys online from various websites. Some say the keys were bought many years ago, so it's not clear yet what the police will do with this new campaign.

For now, however, it's important to deal with this information with a fair amount of skepticism, especially since it's all based on reporting with no official statement about it.


The fucking world we live in, let's not go after the product owner that didn't make it secure, let's not go after the companies who sell this, let's go after the end users.
You enter the fucking key MS says is valid everybody can go fuck themselves.
 
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all about the money
 
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Biggest problem with cheap keys is they can come from multiple sources (resold used OEM keys, resold unused OEM keys, stolen credit card purchased keys, KMS (Volume License) keys, cheap region keys, MSDN keys, etc), and there's zero way for the end user to tell what's legit and what isn't. Some can work for years without issue, others just a few months before suddenly throwing up a "Not genuine" deactivation message. MSDN developer keys can be activated on 10x PC's at once, but the seller will often resell the same key to 9x other people and all it takes is for one to activate on a 2nd (11th) PC, and all 10x people using the same key may suddenly be deactivated. KMS based keys may well activate from a server in China or be an former education key for a University that gets deactivated after 3-4 years.

Wallpaper and everything is completely blocked out.
It's possible to still change wallpaper even when inactivated by right-clicking directly on a .JPG file and clicking "Set as Desktop Background". However other things like certain taskbar / color personalization is indeed locked until activation.
 

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It should be noted, this is not Microsoft doing this. Microsoft has already stated they do not object to these keys being sold.
:( You are right that this is not Microsoft, but Microsoft never stated they do not object to these keys being sold this way - as far as I know, or can find. I've researched this extensively multiple times over the years - for myself, and as a consultant representing business (and government) clients. Got a link where Microsoft stated they don't object to this? I bet not.

In fact, when pressed, Microsoft will point you to the EULAs which state that volume license keys are to stay together, not sold separately. And then they try to push companies to "audited" versions - that is, where a company uses authorized auditing software that monitors and tracks how many licenses are being used, then pay based on that number. It is "dynamically" monitored - that is, if they hire 10 new people today and assign them 10 new Windows computers, they use 10 more keys and then are charged for those 10 more keys. If they fire 5 people tomorrow and and take those computers off-line and put them in storage, they pay for 5 less licenses.

Microsoft has taken the approach of just staying quiet about it for two reasons. (1) If they make a stink, the Microsoft haters and those who buy such "too-good-to-be-true" keys will start bad-mouthing Microsoft, calling them evil big brother, etc. etc. And bad press, even when undeserved, is not good for business. And (2), Microsoft does not want to bring attention to those cheep keys. Instead, they point potential buyers to the Microsoft Store and other "authorized" and "partner" sellers.

****

Just ask yourself, don't you think if those ultra cheap prices were totally legitimate that Newegg, Best Buy, Micro Center, B&H Photo and especially the cutthroat retailers Amazon and Walmart would get in on that action too? Contrary to what some claim, URCDKeys and Kinguin and others like them are NOT authorized Microsoft software resellers. Just because a retailer says they are, that does not mean they are.

I DONT understand how buying a cheap windows key is money laundering
It's not. That was bad reported - or something lost in translation. It is closer to (but still not the same thing as) "receiving stolen goods", "bootlegging" software, or "software piracy" than it is to money laundering.

OEM is kind of a ripoff. It's tied to whatever hardware it's first installed on, I believe?
Its not a rip off. It is designed for "System Builders" to install on their systems they are selling. In fact, it is called "System Builder OEM" software. And yes, it is meant to stay with the "O"riginal "E"quipment. That's one reason why it costs less. The other reason it costs less is the System Builder assumes responsibility for support the first year. If you are the system builder, that's you. If not willing to assume support, don't build the system yourself, or buy the full retail license. Microsoft is giving us choices. That's a good thing.

Then of course, there's Linux.

When I built my Ryzen 5 1600 rig, we bought an OEM copy of Windows 10 from Central Computer for $99. Fast forward to last year when I built my 10700K rig. Tried using the same OEM W10 I had, and guess what? It wouldn't activate! So, I went to one of those key sites that TPU sponsors, bought a W10 Home key, linked it to my Microsoft account and it worked -- and still works now, with my 3600 rig, huzzah!
Well the fact is, you violated the terms of the license agreement (a binding contract, by the way) that you agreed to abide by when you first used that software with your R5 rig. With OEM software, you can legally upgrade all the hardware, except the motherboard since a new motherboard constitutes a new computer.

The fact the cheap 2nd key you used works does not mean it is an authorized used of that key, or that Microsoft approved it be used that way.
 
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Hi,
Yeah microsoft doesn't care wish they would drop the prices at ms store to reflect that though 10 home and pro are stupid priced lol
Link to your ms account and you're the product they make money on.

I've used many cheap keys win-7 and 10 pro's in the last couple years
I do not use a ms account though.
 

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Wait! There were people that bought $12 Windows 10 licenses and actually thought they were legit? Wow, there really is a sucker born every minute.
 
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I don't think they are stupid prices. If you look back, Windows 95 had a suggested price of $209.99. And that was on top of the price you paid for DOS which was required to run W95.

Windows 10 Home from Microsoft is $139 - no DOS required.
 
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Wait! There were people that bought $12 Windows 10 licenses and actually thought they were legit? Wow, there really is a sucker born every minute.

Then I guess call me a sucker.


I paid $15.61 USD for Win 10 OEM

$36.50 USD for Win 10 Retail

And i've had no issues for years.
 
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Sucker is not the word I would use.

And i've had no issues for years.
But if you think that is the point, then perhaps sucker fits because that's the bet (bluff?) the seller is hoping you will buy into.
 
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Sucker is not the word I would use.


But if you think that is the point, then perhaps sucker fits because that's the bet (bluff?) the seller is hoping you will buy into.

i've been using OEM keys now from 5+ years from that site and have not had a problem so again what is the issue?
 
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For one, it appears you don't know what OEM means in terms of software licensing.

For another, if you think there's no issue buying something at ridiculously low prices from someone who is not an authorized retailer, then that's the issue.
 
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For one, it appears you don't know what OEM means in terms of software licensing.

For another, if you think there's no issue buying something at ridiculously low prices from someone who is not an authorized retailer, then that's the issue.

I'm well aware of what the OEM license is.

When MS rejects my Key which has never happened to me then maybe I will care.

No point crying over this to be honest. You want to pay full retail price for it knock yourself out. I will continue to buy the keys the way i've been doing so for years. And considering I don't live in Germany what they do there or think of it is irrelevant to me.
 
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Kinda reminds me of my happy college years. Back in a day we had surprise police raids, hunting for pirated software in educational institutions and private businesses. Just like this thing
Except, back in those days they could check S/N stickers, retail boxes, and store receipts. As sad as it sounds, at least it started to move things in the right direction (like factoring-in price of software into PC build BOM, or using legit software for legit business).
Nowadays checking such things is near impossiburu.
New laptops have Windows keys stored in firmware, and digital licenses make things more complicated (you can't do a "surprise" email or MS account check without breaking a few constitutional rights).
Fool's errand.

Funny, right now I'm catchin' myself on a ridiculous thought that it's easier for me to find my Windows 7/10 key by opening up a TXT file on my PC, than to look for MS email from 11 years ago or attempting to find it in the deepest depths of my MS account. Any such check would deem me a filthy pirate, at least until I can find my receipts.
 

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Windows 10 Home from Microsoft is $139 - no DOS required.

And you can regularly find it on retailer's websites for $99.

Then I guess call me a sucker.


I paid $15.61 USD for Win 10 OEM

$36.50 USD for Win 10 Retail

And i've had no issues for years.

Do you think that is a completely legit key? I'm not asking if it works, I'm asking if you think it is 100% legal and legit. If you do, then you are a sucker.
 
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And you can regularly find it on retailer's websites for $99.



Do you think that is a completely legit key? I'm not asking if it works, I'm asking if you think it is 100% legal and legit. If you do, then you are a sucker.

Well my "non legit" key have never been rejected by Microsoft and until that happens I'm good!

You guys are free to label it whatever you want at the end of the day my wallet wins and that is all I care about.

I've given that link to numerous IT people over the years and not 1 single complaint.
 
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Are we really complaining about Microsoft being ripped off? Even today you can install Windows 10 and get a key from the Microsoft site or the SCDkeys site and the same thing happens. Windows is activated. Modern hardware is expensive already. Especially if you are a part time builder trying to make a little cash from your hobby.
 
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Modern hardware is expensive already.
What???

So it is okay to rip off fuel companies like Exxon Mobile and BP because cars are expensive already? :kookoo:
 
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Are we really complaining about Microsoft being ripped off? Even today you can install Windows 10 and get a key from the Microsoft site or the SCDkeys site and the same thing happens. Windows is activated. Modern hardware is expensive already. Especially if you are a part time builder trying to make a little cash from your hobby.

Yup ever since windows 10 release that ms was giving away as free upgrades to windows 7 the first year, the OS is now a service. They make alot more money from the office suite than windows licenses and their other products. This billion dollar company is not losing money because you can get license keys for cheap for windows 10.
 
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Hi,
Doubt it
I believe best argument is the user is the product in win-10 so microsoft makes money off them no matter how much they spend on win-10.
 
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