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Getting a new motherboard. Should I care about 2.5 gigabit LAN and internal USB type-C headers? What about VRM phases?

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I've been looking at ATX motherboards to pair with a new Ryzen 5 5600X(not purchased yet). These are the ones under consideration(cheapest to most expensive):
(1 USD = 75.00 INR)
  • Gigabyte B550 GAMING X - INR 11,350 (USD 152)
  • Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS - INR 14, 850 (USD 198)
  • MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS - INR 15,252 (USD 204)
  • Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO V2 - INR 15,799 (USD 211)
  • Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO - INR 15,899 (USD 212)
  • MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK - INR 16,499 (USD 220)
  • Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING - INR 17,199 (USD 229)
  • Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING - INR 17,699 (USD 236)
  • Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS - INR 18,250 (USD 246)
So far my choice is the Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS variant. But my one gripe with all the Asus boards is that none of them have an internal header for USB 3.2 type-C.
Is this header useful in today's day? I might get a case with such a header(such as the Lian Li O11 Dynamic or similar) which has a front-panel port for this header, or I might not(to save cash).
Also, most of these(but not all) have 2.5G LAN ports. Anyone uses those?

Also, about VRM phases: The cheapest Asus board has 8(as does my current Z97 board). Some of the MSI boards has 12+2+1(?) and some AsRock boards have up to 14. What's meant by these? Should I really care about these?
 
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I might be a little biased.. but Strix B550-F is a sweet board. Its what I learned with and has been great. I would recommend to anyone :cool:
 
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I might be a little biased.. but Strix B550-F is a sweet board. Its what I learned with and has been great. I would recommend to anyone :cool:
I liked it as well. What's the difference between that and the A?

I remember having to choose between the Asus Z97 variants: A, E, K, ... I got the A only because it supported SLI.
 
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My problem with the TUF is it performs the same VRM wise as the msi A pro which is typically much cheaper.

The best two performing boards when it comes to VRM on that list is the Strix A and F I would lean A cuz its cheaper and they are literally the same board just different color scheme.

The Tomahawk is good and so is the Aorus pro and V2

Just get a board with a competent VRM and all the features you need/want even if it cost slightly more than what you want to spend. You will regret it down the line if you saved 20-30usd on a lesser board.
 
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So I have no idea about the future but if times were normal I would say definitely wait till Q1 2022 if intel's leaks are to be believed one would hope that 5000 series ryzen's and their boards would drop plus the edition of 5000xt CPU's the plain 5000 series might drop in price also.

Back to the original question, what's your intended use and will you be overclocking past turbo? New boards such as Asus creator b550/x570 look very appealing for features
 
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Way too expensive: north of $300 (INR 22,600).
 
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Depends on what you need, want or intend to use it for. In relation to price of course. If you can get 2.5GbE or some extra USB 3.2 headers for the same price or on a product that matches your other requirements, consider it a bonus. But put some value in to it. Would you pay extra for faster LAN? Can you even make use of it? Do you need more USB ports or specifically USB 3.2? Would you in the way you use your computer, pay for any of those features? If the answer is no, you don't need to consider them that much.
Personally I would very much prefer 2.5GbE, since I make a lot of use LAN transfers to a NAS and its really quite handy. Although you can just as well buy yourself a standalone NIC which could arguably be better. Still, 2.5GbE support isn't a bad thing to have.


Thinking of what might come tomorrow without a direct idea if you need any of those things is generally not useful. Who knows, maybe tomorrow everything will require USB 3.2. Or it might be another 10 years before you even consider it a requirement.

As for VRM I would direct you to the this list and it's source:

If you have to ask if you should care or not, chances are it's not something that will matter. As the list mention as well, many of the top tier motherboards in relation to their VRM setup is mostly about high end overclocking. For example the B550 Tomahawk from MSI is S-, 250A capable of flooring a 5900x on LN2. Which I mean, isn't relevant to most people now is it.

Personally I been looking at the Aorus pro v2, seems like a pretty slick board.
 
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Look at that. The Asus boards I linked are tier A, whereas the Gigabyte X570 UD is Tier C. Still plenty for me(5600x with light overclocking), but explains why it is one of the cheaper x570s: it also has little extra features. Also the MSI X570-A Pro is tier D. Explains why it gets so hot with a OCd 5900X.
 
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Look at that. The Asus boards I linked are tier A, whereas the Gigabyte X570 UD is Tier C. Still plenty for me(5600x with light overclocking), but explains why it is one of the cheaper x570s: it also has little extra features. Also the MSI X570-A Pro is tier D. Explains why it gets so hot with a OCd 5900X.

if you want to see some real testing on a lot of the boards.


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The A Pro handles a 3950X OC just fine and would handle a 5900X or 5950X OC just fine unless you live somewhere that is 30c ambient lol.
 
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Actually I do.

Definitely go with somthing robust then especially if AC isn't a thing. Not worth taking any chances with a high ambient.
 

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I've been looking at ATX motherboards to pair with a new Ryzen 5 5600X(not purchased yet). These are the ones under consideration(cheapest to most expensive):
(1 USD = 75.00 INR)
  • Gigabyte B550 GAMING X - INR 11,350 (USD 152)
  • Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS - INR 14, 850 (USD 198)
  • MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS - INR 15,252 (USD 204)
  • Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO V2 - INR 15,799 (USD 211)
  • Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO - INR 15,899 (USD 212)
  • MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK - INR 16,499 (USD 220)
  • Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING - INR 17,199 (USD 229)
  • Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING - INR 17,699 (USD 236)
So far my choice is the Asus TUF GAMING variant. But my one gripe with all the Asus boards is that none of them have an internal header for USB 3.2 type-C.
Is this header useful in today's day? I might get a case with such a header(such as the Lian Li O11 Dynamic or similar) which has a front-panel port for this header, or I might not(to save cash).
Also, most of these(but not all) have 2.5G LAN ports. Anyone uses those?

Also, about VRM phases: The cheapest Asus board has 8(as does my current Z97 board). Some of the MSI boards has 12+2+1(?) and some AsRock boards have up to 14. What's meant by these? Should I really care about these?
VRM Phases are more imperitive, they condition electricity and stabilize it further. Go on youtube and see if Actually Hardcore Overclocking has reviewed any boards.

Gaming and light workloads - amateur video editing and conversion.


Way too expensive: north of $300 (INR 22,600).
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Is this header useful in today's day? I might get a case with such a header(such as the Lian Li O11 Dynamic or similar) which has a front-panel port for this header, or I might not(to save cash).
If you are going to have a case that needs this header, then yes it is important. Otherwise, no. But they also make really cheap adapters if you get a board that doesn't have the USB-C header.

Also, most of these(but not all) have 2.5G LAN ports. Anyone uses those?
I'm sure some do, if you have a 2.5Gbe switch, but I think they are a waste. The 10Gb stuff is getting cheap, just go with that if you need more than 1Gbe. I'm actually annoyed with the 2.5Gbe crap on motherboards. It has made the industry take a step backwards. We were just starting to see 10Gbe integrated into mainstream desktop motherboards but its been abandoned for 2.5Gbe. Now its almost impossible to find a mainstream desktop board with 10Gbe built in.
 

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If you are going to have a case that needs this header, then yes it is important. Otherwise, no. But they also make really cheap adapters if you get a board that doesn't have the USB-C header.


I'm sure some do, if you have a 2.5Gbe switch, but I think they are a waste. The 10Gb stuff is getting cheap, just go with that if you need more than 1Gbe. I'm actually annoyed with the 2.5Gbe crap on motherboards. It has made the industry take a step backwards. We were just starting to see 10Gbe integrated into mainstream desktop motherboards but its been abandoned for 2.5Gbe. Now its almost impossible to find a mainstream desktop board with 10Gbe built in.

Yeah OCN (FTTH) are not wide spread yet, most are still FTTN (Remote DSLAM) or CO DSLAM... so 1 Gbit (0.125 GByte) connectivity is still limited...

So LAN tranfer rates will be awesome but WAN will not make use of it at all...
 

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Yeah OCN (FTTH) are not wide spread yet, most are still FTTN (Remote DSLAM) or CO DSLAM... so Gbit connectivity is still limited...
It doesn't really matte, there are cable connections that are over 1Gb right now. That doesn't change the fact that the industry took a step back when they started putting 2.5Gbe on motherboards instead of continuing with the rollout of 10Gbe. But I realize that isn't really the topic of this discussion.
 

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It doesn't really matte, there are cable connections that are over 1Gb right now. That doesn't change the fact that the industry took a step back when they started putting 2.5Gbe on motherboards instead of continuing with the rollout of 10Gbe.
Yeah as long as the coax plant is in decent condition (taps etc) which are still limited (effing comcast monopoly)

Yeah point is imo the vrms are most important and the Gbit is just fluff.
 
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But my one gripe with all the Asus boards is that none of them have an internal header for USB 3.2 type-C.
Is this header useful in today's day? I might get a case with such a header(such as the Lian Li O11 Dynamic or similar) which has a front-panel port for this header, or I might not(to save cash).
Also, most of these(but not all) have 2.5G LAN ports. Anyone uses those?

Also, about VRM phases: The cheapest Asus board has 8(as does my current Z97 board). Some of the MSI boards has 12+2+1(?) and some AsRock boards have up to 14. What's meant by these? Should I really care about these?
#1) Yes USB-C is useful IF you have (or plan to get) peripherals that use that connector AND are designed to take advantage of the available performance (flash drives, ext. nvme drive enclosures, cameras etc) and more & more mfgr's are producing products that feature it as a standard connector. Having it available on the front I/O panel will be meaningless if you don't have the native connector on the mobo & vice versa... And eventually, the old USB-A (2.0 & 3) connectors will fade into the darkness where they belong, but you will be all set when that happens :)

#2) As for the 2.5G Lan ports - These are really useful if you have (or plan to) set up an internal network or server that can use the additional speed. However, at the present time, very few ISP's offer actual internet connections and/or routers/modems that provide speeds above 1Gb/s, so for that purpose, they mean NUTHIN atm :)

#3) VRM stands for voltage regulator module. VRMs are essentially high-grade DC-to-DC power converters. Most modern CPUs and GPUs use VRMs to control and lower the voltage (V) sent to these components in order to avoid exceeding their maximum voltage capabilities. VRMs are especially important for overclocking a CPU or GPU. In theory, high-quality, multi-phased VRMs mean that the power supplied to the component is consistent, clean, and steady.

Additional/better/strong VRM's are moar expensive, but alot less so than replacing a fried CPU or GPU because of power issues. Nowadays, 8 is the very minimum for basic machines, but 12, 14, 16, or 18 are better for higher-performance scenarios, so getting the best ones you can afford is a good move when building a new machine.
 
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Due to the space constraints in my case and ADHD I tend to switch games so much I can't keep them all on internal hard drives so I'm currently in the process of wiring up a home Nas to backup files and store my steam folder but unless your running nvme drives or Raid 0 in your Nas I can't see any benefit of 2.5gbe over gigabit even for home networking.
 
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Echoing some thoughts here, I agree that USB-C and 2.5GbE are nice to haves. However, for ATX or even some mATX MBs, I'd deprioritize them over other features (if necessary).

For mITX, I place a bit more priority on those features (I have a Ncase M1 V6, so the USB-C header is very nice to have), since there isn't nearly as much space to add those features in. Not impossible, but a lot harder than larger cases and larger motherboards.
 
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The plus point about Asus motherboards for me is that the secondary M.2 sockets share bandwidth with the excess(#4, 5, 6...) SATA ports and not with the tertiary x16 slot(s). That way I can install an adapter for M.2 if I really wanted to.

Of course, that AND the fact that they support SATA M.2 drives(I use only NVMe, so that's irrelevant to me).
 
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So far my choice is the Asus TUF GAMING variant. But my one gripe with all the Asus boards is that none of them have an internal header for USB 3.2 type-C.
Is this header useful in today's day?
The best person to answer this question is YOU. Do you routinely use peripherals with USB-C connectors? Some people do, some people don't.

How inconvenient would you find it to reach around the back of your system to plug in a USB-C peripheral? Some people would just shrug, other people would be annoyed. Neither are right or wrong.

The Strix B550-I (mini-ITX form factor) and Strix B550-E (another ATX board which is closely related to the B550-F) both have the USB 3.2 Gen 2 front panel connector header. I own both boards. I avoid reaching around the back of my computer as much as possible. My desktop computers generally have some sort of external USB hub to put the connections in a more accessible location.

On two of my desks, the USB hub is affixed underneath the tabletop with a short USB female-to-male extension cable glued to the desk. Convenient and not obtrusive.

There are minor differences between the Strix B550-E and Strix B550-F. I suggest you visit the ASUS corporate website, compare the two side-by-side, and prioritize what features are the most important to you. That's how I ended up with the B550-E.

If you are still keen on the Strix B550-F motherboard and want that USB 3.2 Gen 2 USB-C connector for the front panel, you could add an aftermarket PCI card. I considered that briefly before I figured out that the USB card would bring the cost up to the price of the Strix B550-E.

I might get a case with such a header(such as the Lian Li O11 Dynamic or similar) which has a front-panel port for this header, or I might not(to save cash).
Also, most of these(but not all) have 2.5G LAN ports. Anyone uses those?
Apparently the 2.5Gbps LAN ports are getting more popular with gamers which is why the feature is being included on newer premium boards so clearly someone is using those.

Again, the best person to answer this question is YOU. Does your networking gear support the faster standard? Do you have a local network environment that would benefit from it? (e.g., file sharing, large file transfer, media streaming).

Right now I get zero benefit from the 2.5Gbps LAN ports but that's fine. It's included in the Strix B550-I and Strix B550-E boards anyhow.

Also, about VRM phases: The cheapest Asus board has 8(as does my current Z97 board). Some of the MSI boards has 12+2+1(?) and some AsRock boards have up to 14. What's meant by these? Should I really care about these?

Short answer: VRMs are more important for those with extremely power hungry CPUs and overclockers.

Longer answer: Explaining VRMs in a Q&A forum isn't optimal. Read this instead:


or this:


If you are planning on sticking with garden variety consumer-grade CPUs and not doing any hardcore overclocking, don't worry about VRMs. The better boards will have better VRM configurations because the intended clientele of those boards would expect it.

For me, there are two other important factors in selecting a motherboard. The first is the number of fan headers.

The second is whether or not there's a thermal sensor header. I use this with an inline sensor in custom cooling builds to measure coolant temperature. For these custom cooling loop builds there are separate radiators for the CPU and GPU so plentiful fan headers means I can control the radiator fans separately.

Again, these are decisions that I made based on my own usage case and needs are.

If you are seriously considering the Lian Li O11 Dynamic series, think very carefully now whether or not you really need an ATX sized motherboard.

I own the O11D Mini which supports ATX, micro-ATX and mini-ITX boards. An ATX board can only be installed in one position. A micro-ATX board can be installed in two positions. A mini-ITX board can be installed in three positions. This position flexibility allows for different opportunities for cooling (radiators, fans, etc.). My Strix B550-I lives in this case.

I also own the Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Performance. This mid-tower case supports all three of those board sizes as well as E-ATX but there is a single mounting position regardless the motherboard form factor. My Strix B550-E lives in this case.
 
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The best person to answer this question is YOU. Do you routinely use peripherals with USB-C connectors? Some people do, some people don't.
No I don't, not right now. Except maybe an occasional phone with a USB-C port. But a male-to-male USB-C cable? No.
How inconvenient would you find it to reach around the back of your system to plug in a USB-C peripheral? Some people would just shrug, other people would be annoyed. Neither are right or wrong.
For me, it'd be inconvenient. Because most "computer tables" as we call them, keep the case below the monitor, in line with the person's knees. To reach the back of the case you'd have to pull it out and plug in whatever peripheral you wanted. Thanks but no thanks.
The Strix B550-I (mini-ITX form factor) and Strix B550-E (another ATX board which is closely related to the B550-F) both have the USB 3.2 Gen 2 front panel connector header. I own both boards.
The B550-E is $330 for me, so no. I'd much rather get the B550-F or B550-A or the TUF Gaming Plus.
There are minor differences between the Strix B550-E and Strix B550-F. I suggest you visit the ASUS corporate website, compare the two side-by-side, and prioritize what features are the most important to you. That's how I ended up with the B550-E.
Hmm yeah, I guess I'll check that out. That could come in useful for something that isn't apparent from outside.
Apparently the 2.5Gbps LAN ports are getting more popular with gamers which is why the feature is being included on newer premium boards so clearly someone is using those.

Again, the best person to answer this question is YOU. Does your networking gear support the faster standard?
Excellent point. The answer to that is no, I don't have a gigabit+ router. Though I do have fiber so who knows, maybe they'll add that speed in a few years. Not that I'd be using it.
I guess it's moot to consider 2.5G LAN for me. Would get it if it's bundled in, but no biggie if it's not.
Short answer: VRMs are more important for those with extremely power hungry CPUs and overclockers.
That LTT post linked above for VRM tiers is a great resource someone shared. I don't need to know much about VRMs and what I do, it pretty much covers all of that.
For me, there are two other important factors in selecting a motherboard. The first is the number of fan headers.

The second is whether or not there's a thermal sensor header. I use this with an inline sensor in custom cooling builds to measure coolant temperature. For these custom cooling loop builds there are separate radiators for the CPU and GPU so plentiful fan headers means I can control the radiator fans separately.
Hmm, interesting. No, I am going to be installing an air cooler(Noctua NH-U12S). So this info doesn't mean anything to me.
As for fan headers, I'm guessing 3-4 should be plenty. My 500R(old PC) has a fan controller, so all the fans run off of that. I'm not the type to purchase expensive fans to cool my PC, not if the case itself costs a lot. I might if I have spare cash(which I generally won't).
I own the O11D Mini which supports ATX, micro-ATX and mini-ITX boards. The ATX board can only be installed in one position. The micro-ATX board can be installed in two positions. The mini-ITX can be installed in three positions. This position flexibility allows for different opportunities for cooling (radiators, fans, etc.). My B550-I lives in this case.
I wish I had the capital for this level of experimentation. The motivation behind going for an ATX board is future-proofing and real estate. If the case is too small I'd opt for a larger one. The Mini is off the table since I'll only consider ATX power supplies(reuse my old one, in fact).
 
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The motivation behind going for an ATX board is future-proofing and real estate. If the case is too small I'd opt for a larger one. The Mini is off the table since I'll only consider ATX power supplies(reuse my old one, in fact).
The main advantage of my Strix B550-E over my Strix B550-I are the additional PCI slots and extra fan headers.

In terms of future CPU and GPU support, I don't believe the ATX mobo is any more future proofed than its mini-ITX sibling.
 
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Adding the Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS to the list.

It's a far cry from my #1 MSI choice(B550 Tomahawk) or Asus' own TUF Gaming B550-PLUS at $246, but having every PCIe lane at 4.0 sure seems tempting.

I'd love to look at the X570 Strix offerings, but the F variant of that is $360 :(
 
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The X570 Tuf Pro is super solid and isn't usually significantly more expensive than a decent B550 board. I'd actually grab it over the majority of the B550 boards near it in price. Not sure if it's available in your area.

 
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