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I dont agree with anything you are saying........ and its a pointless argument anyway. :toast:



lets get back to brilliant aircraft only the US navy operate the Harrier nowadays



Actually, the Marines. :D But...since they are technically under the US Navy, I'll give it to you! :laugh:
 

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Harrier is slated to be replaced by the JSF (F-35) pretty much everywhere. Because pictures, picture:
 

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Im loving this thread.......and that pic is just superb :toast:



Ever heard of "ground effect"? ...............check this monster
 
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First off Mailman asked me to say he's having a nervous breakdown not being able to post in this thread. Second if the UK were EVER attacked by Russia you can bet the queens crown the US would be their to curb stomp the Russians back to their boarders. Never underestimate an Americans will to fight. We may not do much else but, yall gotta admit we have our fighting game tight. Our soldiers are truly modern day legionaries.

Plus we got all the cool toys! F-22 anyone?



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A 10 used to see these a lot





Someone once told me that the recoil from its' Gatlings would slow the aircraft almost to a stall


@ne6togadno that SU 47 is unbelievable, it almost looks back to front.


just found this....had to stick it on
 
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Someone once told me that the recoil from its' Gatlings would slow the aircraft almost to a stall
It runs out of ammo long before then. The A-10 was literally built around the GAU-8 Avenger. Heh, never saw this photo before:
 
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:respect:On 28 June 2012, the A-10 became the first aircraft to fly using a new fuel blend derived from alcohol; known as ATJ (Alcohol-to-Jet), the fuel is cellulousic-based that can be derived using wood, paper, grass, or any cell-based material, and are fermented into alcohols before being hydro-processed into aviation fuel...


ACE..........chaos with a conscience.






 
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Cut the crap - give us the SR-71 "BlackBird" again.....coolest plane ...ever...fact...

I saw one of those in flight at Lakenheath in 1988 at an airshow. Beast of an aircraft.
 

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@FreedomEclipse...............i am still not frightened by Putin the nutcase.

General-lieutenant Anatoly Zhikharev, commander of Russian long distance military aviation, insists bomber flights near to British airspace will remain at a high level throughout 2015




They also have the worlds fastest nuclear bomber



Anyone heard of Concordski?


one crashed at an airshow


Tu-144 Charger V's Concorde


Tupolev built the Tu-144 airliner, which looked to some like a close copy of the Anglo-French Concorde SST. The TU-144 made its maiden flight on 31 December 1968 - two months before Concorde. Some people called the Tu-144 a "Concordski." The intense competition between the programs was said to have bred industrial espionage among the factions and created private spy programs. It was rumored that the Russians had stolen plans for the Concorde. The Concordski had some individual characteristics that were superficially similar to the Concorde, but the similarities were quite superficial, and bore no witness to espionage.

To the un-initiated the Concordski looked almost like a twin of the Concorde with its ant-eater nose and swept-back delta wings. Also like the Concorde, the Tu-144 had a small cabin with narrow aisles and elbow-to-elbow seating. But it carried a maximum of 140 passengers the Concorde carried only 100. When Concordski turned up for the 1973 Paris Airshow she seemed to look even more like Concorde, because she was redesigned. The wings were more pulled back like the wings of Concorde. The engines had been moved outwards and she had two ear flaps otherwise known as Canards.

It is interesting to compare the origins and destinies of Tu-144 and "Concorde" - the machines that are close by purposes, design approaches and time of building. First of all it should be noted that "Concorde" was designed mainly for supersonic flights over uninhabited ocean spaces - the main purpose was flights between Europe and America. It was the reason for selecting lowere altitudes of crusing supersonic flight which resulted in smaller wing area, smaller takeoff weight, smaller demanded cruising thrust of the powerplant and Specific Fuel Consumption. Tu-144 had to flight mainly over land which lead to higher flight altitudes and respectively increase of parameters and demanded thrust of the powerplant.

It should be added that the engines were less perfect (by specific parameters the engines of Tu-144 aircraft were brought close to "Olympus" only in their last modification). All these negative initial data were compensated in the course of development of the project by high aerodynamic cleanness of Tu-144 which was achieved by making the design more complicated and by lowering maintainability of the aircraft. Quantity of production Tu-144s and "Concorde" was approximately the same.

But opposite to Tu-144 aircraft the English-French SST were in operation substantially till early 90-s. In 1986 ticket price for London-New-York flight made $2,745. It was affordable only for very prosperous people for whom formulae "times is money" is the main credo. There are such people in West and for them flights by "Concorde" are natural saving of time and money. It is confirmed by total flying time of "Concorde" in 1989 equal to 325,000 hours.

Thus the "Concorde" program was more commercial and prestigious to some extent in comparison with Americans. In the USSR there were no people for whom time could turn to money, therefore the natural market of services which could be satisfied by Tu-144s just did not exist. So the aircraft was notoriously unprofitable. Thus from one hand - heroic efforts of Tupolev Design Bureau and other aviation organizations on Tu-144 aircraft development and from the other hand - initial non-professional enthusiasm followed by hamper from Aeroflot side.

The touchdown of the last Concorde at Filton, England, in November 2003, was the first time in human history that progress in travel time had been reversed. Up to that moment the speed of transport had steadily increased with every technological step since humans began riding on horseback.
 
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It runs out of ammo long before then. The A-10 was literally built around the GAU-8 Avenger. Heh, never saw this photo before:

Isn't the russian Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-6-30 capable of firing off more rounds?
XKCD said if you attached 2 of those things to the back of a plane, you could make it jump entire mountains without engines. (Of course the plane would be torn to pieces)
 
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Isn't the russian Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-6-30 capable of firing off more rounds?
XKCD said if you attached 2 of those things to the back of a plane, you could make it jump entire mountains without engines. (Of course the plane would be torn to pieces)


this is from that wiki link
On the Mikoyan MiG-27 the Gsh-6-30 had to be mounted obliquely to absorb recoil. The gun was noted for its high (often uncomfortable) vibration and extreme noise. The airframe vibration led to fatigue cracks in fuel tanks, numerous radio and avionics failures, the necessity of using runways with floodlights for night flights (as the landing lights would often be destroyed), tearing or jamming of the forward landing gear doors (leading to at least three crash landings), cracking of the reflector gunsight, an accidental jettisoning of the cockpit canopy and at least one case of the instrument panel falling off in flight. The weapons also dealt extensive collateral damage, as the sheer numbers of fragments from detonating shells was sufficient to damage aircraft flying within a 200 meter radius from the impact center, including the aircraft firing.

Talk about lethal !!! you can even shoot yourself down with it and all your mates. :clap:


here we go



A 10 's this is really good
 
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I want to do this




in one of these
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Isn't the russian Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-6-30 capable of firing off more rounds?
XKCD said if you attached 2 of those things to the back of a plane, you could make it jump entire mountains without engines. (Of course the plane would be torn to pieces)
Well, yes and no. Yes, the GSH 6 30 has 8000 RPM compared to the GAU-8 of 3900-4200 RPM but the only aircraft I know of that received the GSH 6 30 was the MiG-27 which carried only 210 rounds. The A-10 not only fires longer, heavier uranium tipped round with about 20-25% more muzzle velocity, it also carries >1000 rounds so it can fire 4-8 times longer due to the lower fire rate.

Again, ammo. A-10 carries a lot more than the MiG-27 but even the A-10 runs out in 17 seconds of continuous firing. If the ammo had zero weight and was in unlimited supply, yes, both guns could stop their respective aircrafts because the combined recoil force is greater than the forward engine thrust.


this is from that wiki link
On the Mikoyan MiG-27 the Gsh-6-30 had to be mounted obliquely to absorb recoil. The gun was noted for its high (often uncomfortable) vibration and extreme noise. The airframe vibration led to fatigue cracks in fuel tanks, numerous radio and avionics failures, the necessity of using runways with floodlights for night flights (as the landing lights would often be destroyed), tearing or jamming of the forward landing gear doors (leading to at least three crash landings), cracking of the reflector gunsight, an accidental jettisoning of the cockpit canopy and at least one case of the instrument panel falling off in flight. The weapons also dealt extensive collateral damage, as the sheer numbers of fragments from detonating shells was sufficient to damage aircraft flying within a 200 meter radius from the impact center, including the aircraft firing.
Yup, another Russian fail. They saw the effectiveness of the A-10 and wanted to duplicate it. They didn't take in to account all of the things Fairchild did (redundant controls, the aircraft does not eject any rounds because it returns them to the drum, the vibration, the engines are placed far apart so if it gets shot at and explodes it won't take the other engine, etc.). The A-10 was meant to get into a fist fight; the MiG-27 isn't.
 
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A-10 carries a lot more than the MiG-27 but even the A-10 runs out in 17 seconds of continuous firing.

Having seen them on a number of gunnery ranges, the A-10 pilots have the 1-2 second "burrrp" of firing down to a science! That's all that's necessary to demolish an armored target.
 

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Specifications (GSh-30-2)[edit]
Specifications (GSh-30-2K)[edit]
GAU-8 Avenger

The GAU-8/A Avenger's barrel and breech assembly
(ammunition drum off right edge of photo).
TypeGatling-type autocannon
Place of originUnited States
Service history
In service1977–present
Used by
United States Air Force(Avenger)

Various navies(Goalkeeper)
Production history
ManufacturerGeneral Electric
Number builtApprox. 715[1]
VariantsGAU-12/U Equalizer
GAU-13/A
Specifications
Weight619.5 lb (281 kg)
Length
19 ft 10.5 in (6.06 m) (total system)

112.28 in (2.85 m) (gun only)
Barrel length90.5 in (2.30 m)
Width17.2 in (0.437 m) (barrel only)
Cartridge30 × 173 mm
Caliber30 mm caliber
Barrels7-barrel (progressive RH parabolic twist, 14 grooves)
ActionElectrically controlled, Hydraulic-Driven
Rate of fire4,200 rpm (variable)
Muzzle velocity3,500 ft/s (1,070 m/s)
Effective firing range4,000 feet (1,220 m)
Maximum firing rangeOver 12,000 feet (3,660 m)
Feed systemLinkless feed system



@rtwjunkie 's description of "burping" is spot on, i used to hear them as a boy

on this range in Mid Wales
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Oh, forgot about the HIND. Su-25SM too which has a 250 round magazine (slightly larger) but it's fastest firerate is 12.5 rounds per minute compared to the A-10s 70. Note: max rate of fire for Su-25SM seems to be unknown.
 
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No, because ammo rounds have mass and their supply is limited. You're right in a fantasy world where IDKFA works, wrong in the real world. :p
 

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Tupolev TB-3 Russias WW2 work horse






This one is amazing....








@FordGT90Concept SU 255 rate of fire

The aircraft's twin-barrel gun, the 30mm AO-17A, is installed in the underside of the fuselage on the port side. The gun is armed with 250 rounds of ammunition and is capable of firing at a burst rate of 3,000 rounds a minute. SPPU-22 gun pods can also be installed on the underwing pylons. The pods carry the GSh-23 23mm twin-barrel guns, each with 260 rounds of ammunition.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su25/
 
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try this............ Pathe news reels were shown during the interval in cinemas before people had tvs

 
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The aircraft's twin-barrel gun, the 30mm AO-17A, is installed in the underside of the fuselage on the port side. The gun is armed with 250 rounds of ammunition and is capable of firing at a burst rate of 3,000 rounds a minute. SPPU-22 gun pods can also be installed on the underwing pylons. The pods carry the GSh-23 23mm twin-barrel guns, each with 260 rounds of ammunition.
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That's not a Gatling gun. It's literally two barrels that actuate each other (exhaust from one charges two which fires charging one and so on). Everywhere I see, that 3000 RPM is in doubt because Gatling guns spread that energy out over many barrels (GAU-8 is 7, Yak-B in HIND has 4) where the GSh-30-2 only has 2. Actually, the only Gatling gun on aircraft in Russia is the small one found on the HIND. The rest are one or two barrel.

The original Gast gun had 1500 RPM and it was firing tiny bullets compared to the GSh-30-2 is 30mm. I doubt the peak firerate is higher than 1000 RPM. The 810 RPM figure (13.5 RPS) sounds accurate.
 
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